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20:05:43 <Tonyb> re chocolates: www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f7198
20:05:57 * MrsB pauses meeting to see chocolates
20:06:39 <MrsB> oh that looks interesting
20:06:40 <Tonyb> Sorry, a scientific read for later
20:06:46 <Kernewes> 51minutes, that'sbecause I wasn't there
20:06:56 <MrsB> never be sorry for brining chocolate to the meeting
20:07:02 <Kernewes> space bar not very responsive
20:07:11 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins
20:07:11 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB
20:07:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? If you're just joining the QA team, come and say hi!
20:07:17 <MrsB> thanks :)
20:07:24 <MrsB> Is there anybody new today?
20:07:41 * MrsB looks at the list
20:07:53 <MrsB> nope
20:07:57 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Dave's weather http://www.ody.ca/~dwhodgins/front.jpg
20:07:59 <MrsB> that was easy
20:08:12 <MrsB> Dave's been having some weather!
20:08:18 <wilcal> Dave's under the Vortex
20:08:23 <Kernewes> brrr
20:08:25 <MrsB> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25666737
20:08:26 <[mbot> [ BBC News - North America's big freeze seen from space ]
20:08:27 <mga4rcgazer> looks sunny
20:08:39 <DavidWHodgins> About 45cm of snow in the last storm. Supposed to rain tomorrow night. Currently up to -9C.
20:08:55 <MrsB> you soon won't need a handrail on your steps
20:09:10 <DavidWHodgins> My back is sore again/still, from shoveling all that snow.
20:09:27 <DavidWHodgins> Hence the beer instead of coffee. :-)
20:09:37 <MrsB> medicinal beer
20:09:49 <DavidWHodgins> To wash down the pain killers. :-)
20:09:57 <Tonyb> was 44 degress centigrade here at 5pm couple of days ago
20:09:58 <MrsB> aside from snow is everything ok?
20:10:08 <MrsB> cripes thats warm
20:10:14 <Kernewes> Tonyb: ooh that's hot
20:10:27 <Tonyb> not usual
20:10:29 <wilcal> What's it like in Brisbane?
20:10:44 <mga4rcgazer> hot?
20:10:47 <Kernewes> we've had rain, hail, thunder, lighning and coastal flooding
20:10:48 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. Been busy replacing failing hard drives on 3 different computers over the last few days. Tedious restoring from backups.
20:10:51 <Tonyb> This morning drizzle - grateful for the shade
20:10:56 <MrsB> lol mga4rcgazer
20:11:26 <wilcal> You don't wanna know what it's like here in Surf City USA ( San Diego, CA  )
20:11:33 <MrsB> with shiny new ssd's dave?
20:11:39 <DavidWHodgins> It was -23C here yesterday, with a wind chill of -35C.
20:11:51 <MrsB> looks ok in surf city on the bbc pics
20:11:54 <mga4rcgazer> Toronto?
20:11:59 <wilcal> ooooo that's cold
20:12:02 <Tonyb> whole body shiver at the thought Dave
20:12:06 <DavidWHodgins> No, 1TB drives that failed were replaced with 1TB drives, to simplify recovery.
20:12:18 <Kernewes> DavidWHodgins: remove those bug reports, not fair to blame Mageia when it's the weather messing with your computers :)
20:12:38 <MrsB> wonder how many others we can blame on the weather
20:12:52 <DavidWHodgins> mga4rcgazer: I'm in London, Ontario, about half way between Toronto and Detroit.
20:13:03 <Tonyb> Optimus/bumblebee??
20:13:15 <MrsB> that could be the heat Tonyb
20:13:17 <mga4rcgazer> is it true about Niagra falls freezing?
20:13:53 <MrsB> morning napcok
20:13:57 <Kernewes> napcok: hi,we're just blaming the Mga bugs on the weather
20:14:12 <DavidWHodgins> Current forecast here is +2C tomorrow (with rain), and +5C on Saturday.
20:14:23 <MrsB> ohh summer already :)
20:14:30 <napcok> hi :)
20:14:30 <Kernewes> DavidWHodgins: you'll have +30 next week :)
20:14:33 <DavidWHodgins> ☺
20:14:48 <DavidWHodgins> #topic 4RC
20:14:53 <MrsB> so, do we dare..
20:15:01 <MrsB> how's it looking?
20:15:08 <wilcal> Oooooo mmmmm
20:15:10 <MrsB> not many people tested the last ones
20:15:10 <wilcal> well
20:15:18 <lewyssmith> i tried
20:15:19 <wilcal> I just got through all of them
20:15:23 <tmb> like crap...
20:15:23 <tmb> :)
20:15:30 <MrsB> tmb :D
20:15:34 <DavidWHodgins> I haven't had much time to even look at it, and have had a lot of problems syncing, due to network dropping connection frequently.
20:15:38 <wilcal> They look much better especially Gnome
20:15:53 <MrsB> stick to updates for now I think Dave
20:15:54 <wilcal> Still two MAJOR bugs for me
20:15:56 <Kernewes> I was struck down with another bad attack of real life :(
20:16:04 <dvg_i> i saw hardly improvements
20:16:09 <Tonyb> Intel/nvidia graphics on laptops still an issue
20:16:09 <DavidWHodgins> I will. There are a lot of them to go through.
20:16:15 <MrsB> which ones wilcal?
20:16:27 <wilcal> Remote CUPS server not working on (M4RC) Cauldron
20:16:28 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12137
20:16:30 <[mbot> Bug 12137: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , Remote CUPS server not working on (M4RC) Cauldron
20:16:33 <wilcal> that's really serious
20:16:43 <MrsB> that's the socket ownership isn't it?
20:16:59 <wilcal> Something I'm not an expert there
20:17:01 <wilcal> pavucontrol segfaults out when launched in M4RC Live-CD pre-release
20:17:03 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12155
20:17:04 <[mbot> Bug 12155: normal, Normal, mageia, NEW , pavucontrol segfaults out when launched in M4RC Live-CD pre-release, pavucontrol
20:17:06 <MrsB> remember seeing something about it on dev ml a while ago
20:17:11 <wilcal> lots of people work'n on that one
20:17:22 <MrsB> pavucontrol should be fixed with the rebuild of a few packages
20:17:34 <wilcal> One more thing TaTa......
20:17:44 <wilcal> It ain't all bad:
20:17:45 <wilcal> FWIW I have an account at Ustream and have been able to sustain
20:17:47 <wilcal> a decent streaming video/audio broadcast from my M4RC laptop
20:18:11 <MrsB> so we're making progress
20:18:18 <wilcal> Definitely
20:18:27 <MrsB> dvg still intel/nvidia issues?
20:18:32 <MrsB> swecarp too
20:18:41 <wilcal> There are still Nvidia issures
20:18:42 <dvg_i> yup
20:18:50 <MrsB> tmb any movement there?
20:19:09 <Tonyb> bringing in bumblebee?
20:19:21 <dvg_i> but all live disks gave me maxhine check error, which i dont understand
20:19:31 <DavidWHodgins> Tonyb: Too late for Mageia 4.
20:19:37 <MrsB> oh that's a new one
20:19:38 <dvg_i> machine
20:20:12 * MrsB thinks tmb ran away
20:20:13 <wilcal> I'll put some time in tomorrow on my real hardware 64-bit Nvidia platform
20:20:28 <DavidWHodgins> dvg_i: Only the sha1sum fails for me, on the LiveDVD-GNOME-x86_64 due to a typo in the .sha1 file
20:20:43 <MrsB> please do wilcal, i think we can probably expect some new isos before too long
20:20:51 <dvg_i> all checksums were okay here
20:21:00 <DavidWHodgins> dvg_i: Double check that the partition where the images are stored is not full.
20:21:32 <wilcal> I have a question. What are the doc & test iso's
20:21:34 <DavidWHodgins> Where are you seeing the machine check errror?
20:21:35 <dvg_i> not applicable, i use cd and dvdrw disks
20:21:50 <dvg_i> before the boot menu
20:22:00 <Tonyb> see lots of missing .md5 and .sha1 errors with dorsync
20:22:12 <MrsB> wilcal: the doc one is for docteam it's made without the RC in the background so they can take screenshots. The others are test isos for the intel/nvidia issue
20:22:31 <dvg_i> but only with round 4 live disks
20:22:39 <wilcal> so I should use the test iso for my nvidia testing?
20:22:56 <MrsB> use the regular isos
20:22:59 <wilcal> k
20:23:25 <MrsB> if you have the intel/nvidia problem, usually they don't boot, then try those other ones
20:23:26 <tmb> MrsB: some progress, but I currently have a new kernel building so new isos should land tonight/tomorrow
20:23:36 <MrsB> thanks tmb
20:24:09 <dvg_i> before round 4 they always did boot here!
20:24:11 <wilcal> Not that we're not busy  :-0
20:24:11 <MrsB> #info some progress with intel/nvidia and also new kernel coming so new isos should arrive tonight/tomorrow
20:24:45 <wilcal> so I should wait for the new isos to do my real hardware nvidia testing?
20:24:46 <MrsB> #info dvg gets a machine check error with the latest live isos
20:24:57 <tmb> other than that a lot of fixes has been pushed including new oxygen-gtk(3) that should close some bugs
20:24:59 <MrsB> #info before round 4 they would boot
20:25:23 <MrsB> #info lots of other more minor fixes will be included
20:26:23 <MrsB> so it sounds like we should maybe try some upgrades or test all the applications while we wait for the new isos
20:26:46 <MrsB> marja has done soem upgrades and no problems so far
20:26:57 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan
20:27:09 <marja> MrsB: hoho
20:27:16 <MrsB> hi marja
20:27:24 <dvg_i> yes classical upgrades are okay
20:27:36 <wilcal> I'm having fewer apps issues on M4 then I did on M3 at this stage
20:27:43 <MrsB> they were ok weren't they marja, or did i get that wrong?
20:28:28 <MrsB> upgrades should be much simpler now that TBWNWDNM has been fixed \o/
20:28:40 <marja> MrsB: I did have problems..... with the pre-release beta2 and grub2, booting with the just installed Mga 4 kernel was impossible (but I couldn't reproduce that today with real beta 2 / 64 bits)
20:29:10 <MrsB> #info please test upgrades, particularly with grub2
20:29:17 <marja> MrsB: also, today with 64 bits beta2, upgrading with only the DVD was impossible
20:29:32 <marja> MrsB: because of missing dependencies
20:29:34 <wilcal> grub2/M3 -> grub2/M4 ??
20:29:43 <marja> wilcal: indeed, that went wrong
20:29:52 <wilcal> I can try that tomorrow
20:29:56 <DavidWHodgins> We need devlopers to concentrat on fixing the bugs shown by https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11704&hide_resolved=1
20:29:57 <[mbot> [ Dependency tree for Bug 11704 ]
20:30:06 <marja> wilcal: and it was on 32 bits when I hit it
20:30:17 <MrsB> what did you have installed marja, was it a base mga3 or had you added lots of stuff to it?
20:30:21 <wilcal> k I can easily do that in Vbox
20:30:45 <MrsB> you did lots of upgrades last time wilcal didn't you
20:30:51 <marja> MrsB: lots of extra stuff
20:30:51 <wilcal> Yes
20:31:15 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Anything from third parties like Adobe?
20:31:39 <MrsB> it's not uncommon to find that with no online medias
20:31:51 <MrsB> new libs etc
20:31:54 <marja> DavidWHodgins: I doubt there was anything third party.... there was a problem with conflicts
20:32:22 <DavidWHodgins> We need bug reports on all of them, so they can be fixed before final release.
20:32:27 <marja> but when I chose the kernels mirror, it went OK
20:32:50 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Might have been a mirror that isn't up-to-date.
20:32:53 <marja> DavidWHodgins: I'll find and upload my report.bug
20:33:02 <wilcal> kernels mirror has been pretty good lately I rsync to it everyday at 04:00AM
20:33:02 <Tonyb> UEFI?
20:33:07 <MrsB> just missing stuff from the dvd i think dave, no online medias added
20:33:29 <lewyssmith> Tonyb: I got it to work OK
20:33:40 <lewyssmith> Just for KDE
20:33:43 <DavidWHodgins> Tonyb: UEFI is still a work in progress. Unlikely to be easy for end users for Mageia 4.
20:33:48 <MrsB> tmb how is uefi looking?
20:33:49 <marja> MrsB: anyway, upgrading should be possible without enabling extra media, so if there isn't a report for that yet, I'll file one
20:34:07 <lewyssmith> The EFI procedure is pretty easy
20:34:31 <MrsB> yes, please do anyway marja, and attach your /root/drakx/report.bug.xz
20:34:46 <Tonyb> lewyssmith: I'll get your short version later?
20:34:46 <marja> MrsB: OK
20:34:51 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: If you're running linux already. Mounting an iso under windows requires extra software.
20:35:26 <lewyssmith> But you can make the USB stick on any Linux box
20:35:51 <lewyssmith> I agree about not being able to under Win perhaps
20:36:19 <lewyssmith> Tonyb: Marja has made a HOWTO
20:36:38 <wilcal> Here's what I do:
20:36:39 <wilcal> dd if=/home/wilcal/databank/distros/mageia_4_rc/Mageia-4-RC-i586-DVD/Mageia-4-RC-i586-DVD.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
20:36:46 <mga4rcgazer> is it in the wiki?
20:36:54 <lewyssmith> Yes
20:36:57 <mga4rcgazer> kewl
20:37:22 <lewyssmith> But it currently has several ways...
20:37:31 <Tonyb> Work calls. I'll catch the rest of discussion later.  Bye.  Noted Lewyssmith comment re Marja
20:37:37 <wilcal> I blank the USB stick with Gparted before doing the xfer
20:37:39 <MrsB> thanks for being here Tonyb
20:37:43 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: That will only be useable in non-uefi mode. To install in uefi mode, the iso must be mounted, and the contents copied to a vfat partition on the usb stick.
20:37:46 <MrsB> don't do it too hard
20:38:06 <wilcal> gracious I don't have to deal with that yet
20:38:17 <lewyssmith> It's temporary I hope
20:39:06 <MrsB> ennael, tmb anything to add here before we move on?
20:39:07 <DavidWHodgins> For uefi installs, it's probably better if we provide a zip file, intead of an iso.
20:39:26 <MrsB> that's interestign idea dave
20:39:29 <lewyssmith> That would be nice
20:39:44 <lewyssmith> Only for 64-bit
20:39:50 <MrsB> #info Dave suggested providing a zip file for uefi installs
20:40:45 <MrsB> Dave do you want to email about that to qa-d
20:41:03 <DavidWHodgins> Probably 3 zip files. One each for live gnome/kde/classical installer, x86_64 only, since I've never heard of a 32 bit uefi system.
20:41:06 <MrsB> explain it for us older hardware folks
20:41:16 <DavidWHodgins> Will do
20:41:20 <lewyssmith> Dave: Only Lives at present
20:41:26 <tmb> I intend to have atleast live medias to boot directly in uefi for mga4, but I got a bit sidetracked by nvidia/intel issue
20:41:29 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: Correct.
20:41:30 <MrsB> he's partially in the future at all times
20:41:59 <MrsB> yeah that's more important atm tmb
20:42:22 <dvg_i> tmb: sorry for that
20:42:29 <lewyssmith> tmb: Not much time...
20:42:31 <tmb> DavidWHodgins: there is actually 32bit uefi hw out therer now, some of the intel baytrail hw
20:42:43 <MrsB> #info tmb intends to have at least live isos able to boot directly in uefi but intel/nvidia bug is causing problems which is delaying him at the moment
20:42:55 <DavidWHodgins> Have to go for a while. Guest here.
20:43:02 <MrsB> k dave
20:43:03 <tmb> but 32bit uefi support in kernel and utils sucks so no-one is really interested in it
20:43:16 <lewyssmith> Forget it, I would say
20:43:36 <MrsB> don't try and do too much, it's better to do less well than more badly
20:44:00 <lewyssmith> I think the last is what we have been doing lately
20:44:02 <mga4rcgazer> that's a quotable quote! :-)
20:44:11 <MrsB> :)
20:44:33 <MrsB> so having said that...
20:44:40 <tmb> MrsB: yeah, I have no intention of supporting 32bit uefi, it was just a note that it exists :)
20:45:07 <MrsB> #topic Updates waiting for validation - many, many, many updates..
20:45:20 <wilcal> I been pick'n at'em
20:45:29 <lewyssmith> I'm pretty bad tonight, so excuse me fleeing
20:45:36 <wilcal> I think we need 20 people pick'n at'em
20:45:39 <MrsB> Dave is still going to concentrate on updates, we're completely buried since the rush at christmas
20:46:01 <MrsB> oh, cya lewis :)
20:46:16 <wilcal> I look at at least one a day for some low hanging fruit in there
20:46:37 <MrsB> We *may* need to balance our thoroughness to match the volume of updates
20:47:32 <MrsB> Once the RC is out we'll have more time but what I don't want to happen is to go into supporting 2 distributions again with a huge list of existing updates waiting
20:47:52 <MrsB> we usually experience a rush post-release as it is
20:48:12 <wilcal> We're not wanting for something to do
20:48:39 <MrsB> so let's see how it goes, but if necessary I think we should consider more basic checks (do they update ok)
20:49:19 <MrsB> to get the list back under control, anyway, not going forward though
20:49:42 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates
20:49:44 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:49:50 <MrsB> currently 32 updates waiting
20:50:17 <MrsB> anyone have anything to add?
20:50:29 <wilcal> Not here
20:50:41 <wilcal> Poor Luigi
20:50:48 * Kernewes looks at list and nearly faints
20:51:00 <MrsB> it's huuuuge
20:51:09 <MrsB> packagers went mad over christmas
20:51:18 <Kernewes> will try and have a go but not finished with the real life rush quite yet
20:51:24 <wilcal> Time on their hands
20:51:29 <MrsB> yep
20:51:58 <MrsB> We have to prioritise ISOs for now but can't afford to rest between RC and Final sadly
20:52:28 <MrsB> #topic Luigi's Roundup
20:52:29 <Luigi12_work> boo
20:52:34 <MrsB> ahaaa
20:52:39 <wilcal> Hi ya Luigi
20:52:43 <MrsB> Hi David
20:52:45 <Kernewes> Luigi12_work: are we that bad?
20:53:21 <Luigi12_work> thanks to the packagers who've helped me fill the QA team's stockings with lovely updates.  My last call for help got a better response than I used to get.
20:53:25 <MrsB> lol
20:53:42 <MrsB> #info <Luigi12_work> thanks to the packagers who've helped me fill the QA team's stockings with lovely updates.  My last call for help got a better response than I used to get.
20:53:49 <MrsB> immortalising that one
20:53:54 <Kernewes> :)
20:54:02 <MrsB> how's your weather?
20:54:03 <Luigi12_work> I hope looking at the list hasn't caused too much hyperventilating
20:54:15 * MrsB ignoring the list at the moment
20:54:23 <Luigi12_work> not too bad now that the wind has died down.  Still cold, but normal cold, not historic cold like Tuesday.
20:54:36 <wilcal> Luigi and I picked off a couple of them earlier this week :-))
20:54:45 <MrsB> It was all over the news here that Hell had frozen over
20:54:56 <Kernewes> yeah I saw that
20:54:59 <Luigi12_work> yeah it was pretty neat
20:55:11 <MrsB> They interviewed a guy there though who said it happened every few years..
20:55:27 <Luigi12_work> so hopefully I can get help to fix x2goserver soon
20:55:32 <wilcal> Last happened in 92/93 and it was worse
20:55:35 <mga4rcgazer> whoever had the crazy idea to calla a town "hell"? :-)
20:55:39 <Luigi12_work> as soon as we push one serious openssl update, we have another
20:55:51 <MrsB> the other one was Embarrassment, coldest town
20:55:56 <Kernewes> mga4rcgazer: +1
20:55:59 <wilcal> Yes another openssl but should be an easy test
20:56:14 <MrsB> it's often seems to happen that way Luigi12_work
20:56:27 <Luigi12_work> for the ones marked major, none of them jump out at me as being too incredily bad
20:56:56 <Luigi12_work> it'd be nice to release x11-server (bug 12042) and libxfont (bug 12237) together, so people only have to restart X once
20:56:58 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12042 major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , x11-server new security issue CVE-2013-6424, x11-server
20:56:59 <MrsB> #info x2goserver will be coming soon if Luigi12 can get some help and openssl has another update due
20:56:59 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12237 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, REOPENED , libxfont new security issue CVE-2013-6462, libxfont-1.4.5-3.mga3.src.rpm
20:57:30 <Luigi12_work> of the ones marked normal priority, probably dcraw/ufraw (bug 12125) and libxfont (12237) are slightly more serious than the others
20:57:31 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12125 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , dcraw and ufraw new security issue CVE-2013-1438, dcraw, ufraw
20:57:32 <MrsB> #info it'd be nice to release x11-server and libxfont together so people only have to restart X once
20:57:37 <MrsB> good planning
20:57:46 <mga4rcgazer> my battery is  critically low...see ya
20:57:55 <wilcal> Later
20:57:55 <MrsB> have a good night mga4rcgazer
20:58:01 <mga4rcgazer> u 2
20:58:06 <Luigi12_work> other than that, just working through the list from top to bottom should be a reasonably good way to attack things by importance
20:58:30 <MrsB> look through squinted eyes so it doesn't hurt too much
20:58:33 <wilcal> Top to bottom is importance?
20:58:41 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: sort of
20:58:42 <MrsB> pretty much wilcal
20:58:45 <Luigi12_work> the ones marked red are critical
20:58:47 <DavidWHodgins> back
20:58:47 <wilcal> thks
20:58:49 <Kernewes> MrsB: like with Doctor Who
20:58:52 <Luigi12_work> the bold ones are more important than the others
20:58:57 <MrsB> yeah
20:58:59 <MrsB> wb dave
20:59:05 <Luigi12_work> other than that, they're sorted by bug numbers, so the ones higher in the list have been waiting for a longer time
20:59:19 <DavidWHodgins> Just taught a 75 year old friend how to use skype.
20:59:43 <wilcal> Senior citizens are taking over Facebook
21:00:10 <Luigi12_work> one person tested poppler and couldn't reproduce the issue with the PoC (I haven't tried it myself).  If someone can confirm the PoC with the poppler version that *was* in Cauldron before the update pushed today and can also verify that the PoC doesn't work in Mageia 3, we could possibly cancel that one.  From the code it seems it *should* be vulnerable in Mageia 3, but not 100% sure.
21:00:35 <MrsB> #info one person tested poppler and couldn't reproduce the issue with the PoC (I haven't tried it myself).  If someone can confirm the PoC with the poppler version that *was* in Cauldron before the update pushed today and can also verify that the PoC doesn't work in Mageia 3, we could possibly cancel that one.  From the code it seems it *should* be vulnerable in Mageia 3, but not 100% sure.
21:01:41 <Luigi12_work> since my call for help, a couple more packages have issues that I'd appreciate help with so I can get those to QA, mongodb and libvirt
21:02:01 <Luigi12_work> if I can get more graphviz fixes from upstream, that might be coming your way somewhat soon
21:02:19 <Luigi12_work> otherwise, nothing obvious on the horizon in the near term
21:02:26 <MrsB> was saying, due to volume of work at the moment dave, we could maybe just check things update ok if needs be
21:02:29 <Kernewes> thank goodness for the words "if" and "might"
21:02:52 <Luigi12_work> any questions for me?
21:03:05 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: I'll play it by ear, depending on how important/likely to be used, the package is.
21:03:09 <wilcal> maybe some way to mark those on the listing ( check update only )
21:03:11 <MrsB> yeah
21:03:24 <MrsB> i think we should ocnsider it an option though now
21:03:57 <DavidWHodgins> All of the ones added in the last 2 days, I still have to add the advisories to svn. That will be my first priority.
21:04:02 <MrsB> it'll only be a temporary measure wilcal, not something we want to make commonplace
21:04:41 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: It'll be makeing sure they install, and run, not just install.
21:04:49 <MrsB> Thanks for that as always Luigi12_work
21:04:58 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
21:05:14 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
21:05:17 <wilcal> I've a question after
21:05:25 <MrsB> afteror now?
21:05:37 <wilcal> Not relevant to QA
21:05:39 <MrsB> k
21:05:45 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here.
21:05:49 <MrsB> well if we're all done..
21:05:49 <mga4rcgazer> before I loose all amps: I have a question about installing via .isos from disk partition
21:05:53 <MrsB> oh
21:05:57 <MrsB> fire away
21:06:12 <MrsB> you mean through grub?
21:06:40 <mga4rcgazer> I can list the .isos but not all of the ones I put in the partition appear for selection to install from
21:06:41 <Luigi12_work> stage1 might also be able to load stage2 from an ISO on disk
21:06:53 <DavidWHodgins> It can
21:07:22 <mga4rcgazer> I better write this up more thoroughly
21:07:25 <MrsB> yep
21:07:28 <DavidWHodgins> mga4rcgazer: How are you booting? From an iso, or grub?
21:07:51 <mga4rcgazer> i use boot.iso on a stick  and the select boot from drive
21:08:06 <MrsB> oh, never tried that
21:08:36 <DavidWHodgins> Been a while since I've done that. I always put the iso images in the / directory, to make them easy to find.
21:08:52 <MrsB> could it maybe be arch related if you're not seeing all of them?
21:11:01 <MrsB> did we help?
21:11:58 <DavidWHodgins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS0-wQ1I88k
21:11:59 <[mbot> [ The Cat Came Back - YouTube ]
21:12:14 <DavidWHodgins> My cat woke up, and wants attention. :-)
21:12:24 <MrsB> Is there anything else else?
21:12:30 <DavidWHodgins> Not here
21:12:35 <wilcal> Not from me
21:12:46 <MrsB> ok T-5 then
21:12:50 <MrsB> 4
21:12:51 <MrsB> 3
21:12:52 <MrsB> 2
21:12:54 <MrsB> 1
21:12:59 <MrsB> Thankyou all for coming!
21:13:03 <MrsB> #endmeeting