19:07:13 <MrsB> #startmeeting 19:07:13 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Oct 3 19:07:13 2013 UTC. The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:07:13 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:07:29 <MrsB> Hi guys, wlecome to another one :) 19:07:41 <MrsB> starting with a typo, a sign of things to come 19:07:48 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins 19:07:48 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB 19:08:04 <MrsB> #topic Who's new? 19:08:19 <MrsB> Is there anybody new today? 19:08:42 <MrsB> doesn't look like it 19:08:50 <DavidWHodgins> #topic 4Alpha3 - How did our testing go? Anything to improve? 19:08:55 <MrsB> tah 19:09:03 <MrsB> Sooo how did we do? 19:09:55 <wilcal> I'm pretty satisfied with the M4A3 19:10:12 <wilcal> Still some wrinkles but very usable 19:10:18 <wilcal> Gnome is still a mess 19:10:40 <MrsB> I found gnome was bad live but ok installed 19:10:53 <MrsB> what about or procedures? 19:10:56 <MrsB> our* 19:11:00 <wilcal> ok I'll have to give that a go 19:11:01 <DavidWHodgins> Still a lot of bugs that would be release blocker, if it wasn't an alpha release 19:11:12 <wilcal> I agree David 19:11:18 <DavidWHodgins> I think the procedures are ok 19:11:34 <MrsB> yep, it was an Ok alpha release. Some big issues, lots of little ones. 19:12:04 <wilcal> That's an Alpha 19:12:14 <MrsB> version freeze is the next thing to happen so hopefully we will see things begin to stabilise 19:12:30 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_4_Development 19:13:05 <wilcal> Ya, that usually settles things down 19:13:10 <MrsB> Beta 1 is due for release on 31st October so we should expect to get it around 24th/25th 19:14:00 <MrsB> any other comments on any of this? 19:14:06 <MrsB> anything we could improve? 19:14:13 <wilcal> The won't connect to eth0 thing came then went away 19:15:03 <wilcal> I'd like to see the developers do full installs from a zeroed out disk to test 19:15:18 <wilcal> Sometimes I think things get missed 19:15:38 <wilcal> I'm a little worried about CUPS but still some testing on my part 19:15:58 <MrsB> I agree wilcal. There are plans to get the DE devs together to thrash out a few bugs 19:16:14 <wilcal> What was the won't connect to eth0 thing? 19:16:38 <MrsB> Network intreface naming is changing 19:16:46 <wilcal> OK 19:16:58 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia4_Review 19:16:59 <wilcal> seems to be ok on M4A3 final 19:17:20 <MrsB> still bugs to iron out with it 19:17:57 <MrsB> So we did Ok I think, lets give ourselves a pat on the back 19:18:06 <MrsB> well done us 19:18:13 * Akien pats QA on the back. 19:18:20 <swecarp> ty Akien 19:18:20 <MrsB> lol :) 19:18:22 <Akien> You did so well that I did not have the time to step in :) 19:18:42 <MrsB> Anything else on this? 19:19:03 <MrsB> let's go on then 19:19:09 <swecarp> i hope the broadcom bug will be fixed fore the b1 19:19:16 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: What's happening with the network interface renaming 19:19:51 <MrsB> AFAIK it's going ahead Dave. It can be pulled later if it causes major headaches though 19:20:04 <DavidWHodgins> ok 19:20:10 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates 19:20:20 <MrsB> thanks :) 19:20:31 <MrsB> Sooo back to the grindstone 19:20:38 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_process_for_validating_updates 19:20:40 <MrsB> as a reminder 19:20:43 <DavidWHodgins> I'll likely be spending at least the rest of today working on the packaging for copyiso2usb, so won't be testing updates. 19:20:45 <wilcal> I'll put some time into the LibreOffice thing today or tomorrow 19:21:35 <MrsB> #info gcompris is a very easy one to test (childrens software) with procedure so a great opportunity to test your first update if you are looking for one! 19:21:38 <swecarp> i could do the libre in vb with some help 19:21:51 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates 19:21:53 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db ] 19:22:09 <wilcal> I want to go back to 2nd Grade 19:23:04 <MrsB> LO we generally just check it all opens and works, each application and that the spellchecker is correct and general tests liek that. Make sure you can save and load again etc 19:24:26 <MrsB> Everybody OK they know what to do ? 19:24:31 <swecarp> yes 19:24:32 <wilcal> Got it 19:24:40 <MrsB> everybody going to do it ? 19:24:54 <wilcal> Lots of American Baseball games on TV so I watch and test at the same time 19:25:00 <MrsB> lol 19:25:20 <MrsB> As always, if you need help with anything whatsoever you only have to ask 19:25:40 <MrsB> Just follow the validation process as you do the tests 19:26:03 <MrsB> let's go on then, thanks guys 19:26:11 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup 19:26:12 <Luigi12> boo 19:26:15 <MrsB> thanks dave 19:26:17 <MrsB> OoOooo 19:26:22 <wilcal> Hiya Luigi 19:26:23 <MrsB> Hi Luigi12 @ home 19:26:36 <Luigi12> indeed. Work is shutdown. 19:26:39 <MrsB> are you shutdown? 19:26:42 <MrsB> :\ 19:26:48 <Luigi12> yep 19:26:50 <MrsB> i did wonder about that 19:27:12 <MrsB> hope you're not going to lose pay through it 19:27:13 <Luigi12> at least I got to help at my high school's home cross country meet yesterday :o) 19:27:19 <Luigi12> oh I am, no $$$ for me 19:27:28 <MrsB> that's pants 19:27:30 <Luigi12> it's ok, I don't need the money that bad. Sucks to lose it, but life goes on. 19:27:30 <wilcal> You part of the crazy American Government shutdown Luigi? 19:27:48 <Luigi12> yep, I teach government people, so no government, no worky 19:28:02 <diogenese> :( 19:28:38 <MrsB> i thought you'd been busy with updates recently :D 19:28:45 <Luigi12> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates as MrsB pasted earlier has the current updates in testing. I don't really have much to say about them that hasn't already been said on the bugs. 19:28:47 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db ] 19:29:05 <Luigi12> I actually need to get back to work on updates, I haven't done much lately 19:29:12 <MrsB> Anything in the pipeline, apart from the kernel? 19:29:15 <Luigi12> guess I will next week 19:29:18 <wilcal> Any really critical security updates? 19:29:41 <Luigi12> nothing really critical. chromium-browser-stable 30 is out upstream with 50 security fixes, so hopefully we'll have that packaged soon. 19:30:03 <Luigi12> let me see what else is in the queue 19:30:10 <MrsB> #info chromium-browser-stable 30 is out upstream so hopefully will be packaged soon 19:30:32 <MrsB> #info kernels are coming! 19:30:52 <Luigi12> besides the openjpa, there's another Java package (cxf) that actually has three SRPMS affected, hopefully dmorgan will finish that update. 19:31:20 <MrsB> java stuff we usually just test it updates without issues if there is no PoC 19:31:26 <Luigi12> doesn't look like help is coming for the nmap update for mga2, so I'll have to get to that one when I have time 19:32:21 <MrsB> #info no packager help forthcoming for nmap 19:32:24 <Luigi12> the libraw related packages still need updated, nobody's helped with that either, so I'll do what I can when I can 19:32:48 <Luigi12> no responses from the maintainers of libzypp (spturtle) and python-oauth2 (coling) yet 19:32:50 <MrsB> #info same goes for libraw and related packages 19:33:03 <Luigi12> still waiting for mitya on zabbix too 19:33:28 <Luigi12> vino should be updated soon for a security issue 19:33:36 <MrsB> #info no response from maintainers of libzypp or python-oauth2 or zabbix yet 19:33:54 <Luigi12> there's some systemd security issues, maybe colin is planning an update for that 19:34:09 <MrsB> #info vino is coming soon andperhaps systemd 19:34:47 <MrsB> is it at a stage we need to chase people yet? 19:34:47 <Luigi12> the chromium 30 update fixes a security issue in their bundled copy of the icu library. There's no public details on it that I can find, but if any come out, we'll probably be updating that. 19:35:04 <Luigi12> chasing would be nice, yes 19:35:19 <MrsB> ok, i'll have a word with ennael/malo, unless you beat me to it 19:35:49 <Luigi12> I can't do it all myself...basically the security team is oden and I, and if anything, we're both probably going to have to scale back our security work in the not too distant future, so we need more help from maintainers 19:36:23 <MrsB> yeah, it's easy for people to take for granted 19:36:56 <DavidWHodgins> At least Mageia 2 will be eol in a month, which will reduce the amount of work for a few months. 19:37:09 <MrsB> I'll try and catch the people needed and see what their plans are and have a word with ennael/malo to try and get more assistance 19:37:18 <MrsB> yes thats true Dave 19:37:43 <MrsB> #action MrsB to do soem chasing 19:38:04 <Luigi12> any questions for me? 19:38:12 <MrsB> have you got cake? 19:38:14 <wilcal> Nope not from me 19:38:29 * Luigi12 ate my cake a few weeks ago 19:38:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else? 19:38:41 <MrsB> thanks Luigi12 19:38:49 <MrsB> Sooo Is there anything else? 19:38:51 <wilcal> I'll post a short reprise of my Hollywood Trade Show visit last week after this is ended. 19:38:59 <MrsB> ok cool :) 19:39:12 <MrsB> Is there anything else else? 19:39:21 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here. 19:39:36 <MrsB> wow another short meeting 19:39:45 <MrsB> T-5 19:39:48 <MrsB> 4 19:39:50 <MrsB> 3 19:39:51 <MrsB> 2 19:39:53 <MrsB> 1 19:39:58 <MrsB> Thanks for coming everybody 19:40:02 <MrsB> same time next week 19:40:05 <MrsB> #endmeeting