19:05:11 <MrsB> #startmeeting
19:05:11 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Sep 26 19:05:11 2013 UTC.  The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:05:17 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. madb.org is finally working again.
19:05:25 <MrsB> Morning all who are not square :)
19:05:37 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins
19:05:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB
19:05:40 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new?
19:05:45 <MrsB> thankq
19:05:54 <MrsB> Is there anybody new here today?
19:06:05 <sebsebseb> no one new as usual it seems
19:06:24 <DavidWHodgins> Zeldas7777: Is this the first irc qa meeting you've attended?
19:06:37 <sebsebseb> ah right yeah if Zeldas7777 i here for the meeting, then he is new
19:06:44 <Zeldas7777> DavidWHodgins: yes
19:06:51 <MrsB> zeldas is joining packagers but welcome to sit in
19:07:02 <DavidWHodgins> Are you planning on joining the qa team?
19:07:04 <MrsB> morning swecarp
19:07:07 <philippem> not really new but as my python stuff seems ok, I will try to swith to qa
19:07:09 <Zeldas7777> Thanx MrsB
19:07:18 <sebsebseb> Zeldas7777: QA i easier then packaging  it's about testing the packages and pre release ISO's
19:07:24 <MrsB> philippem: \o/
19:07:36 <MrsB> noo qa is harder
19:07:56 <MrsB> Welcome to the QA team then philippem
19:08:10 <sebsebseb> if it's easier or not, I guess that can depend :d
19:08:17 <MrsB> #info philippem is going to try some QA :)
19:08:40 <MrsB> Does everybody know each other or shall we do intorductions?
19:08:49 <MrsB> intro*
19:08:54 <sebsebseb> philippem: what your going to QA your own packages or other peoples as wel? :d
19:08:58 <swecarp> morning MrsB
19:08:59 <DavidWHodgins> May as well do the intros
19:09:01 <spiky> Hi philippem
19:09:41 <MrsB> Say a few lines to introduce yourself philippem and everybody will do the same
19:09:48 <DavidWHodgins> I'm Dave Hodgins, from London, Ontario, Canada. Deputy leader of the qa tea. Been involved in qa testing since alpha 1 of Mageia 1.
19:10:00 <MrsB> I'm Claire 40 something from the midlands, Uk
19:10:15 <DavidWHodgins> My background is software development on IBM mainframes.
19:10:28 <dvg> from Netherlands. using mdv/mga since 2003 and tester nearly all that time
19:10:32 <MrsB> Dave's the clever one
19:10:40 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:10:43 <swecarp> im M�en from sweden age 50
19:10:46 <lewyssmith> I'm Lewis, expat Cymro in France
19:10:48 <spiky> I,m spiky from UK still learnibg
19:11:31 <MrsB> gone already :D
19:12:01 <sebsebseb> I am a more community oriented person, and have done some Magiea related public speaking and will do more and podcassting and such,  part of the Atelier team (mere of 3 former teams),  former marketing and communications deupty leader  for a bit,  and now meaning to get a bit more invovled with the ISO testing again
19:12:07 <sebsebseb> ok that's a long one ^
19:12:14 <philippem> I'm philippe from Foix, France and mainly package Python modules, but do qa regulary for my job
19:12:16 <sebsebseb> and not done one lik that before for this
19:12:31 <marja> I'm marja, but only occasionally helping QA, I'm more in docteam
19:12:36 <Zeldas7777> i am Stephen from the USA my hobby is system and server building. developing custom programs when needed
19:13:11 <sebsebseb> you're marja the leader of the doc team yeah
19:13:13 <MrsB> If you've not seen it before philippe, this is how we do QA https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_process_for_validating_updates
19:14:01 <MrsB> we're about to start with iso testing again too so if you'd like to help with that ( please do!) could you add your details here please https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers
19:14:04 <marja> sebsebseb: I was too busy to see who the new QA member was... philippem already knows me ;-)
19:14:24 <sebsebseb> Zeldas7777 already knows me kind of
19:15:04 <marja> Zeldas7777: ah, welcome to QA (I should read the chat better :-/)
19:15:06 <Zeldas7777> i know a few from a year ago that includes sebsebseb
19:15:19 <sebsebseb> apparatly I got ihm more interested in Mageia as wel or something ike that :d
19:15:34 <MrsB> There is some info on how we do iso testing here https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pre-release_ISO_testing
19:16:06 <MrsB> We don't believe in silly questions so please don't hesitate to ask if there is anything you need some guidance with
19:17:04 <Zeldas7777> i mainly want to get involved because of certain issues with mageia i experiance sebsebseb
19:17:17 <MrsB> Zeldas7777: you're welcome to help QA too if you like
19:17:41 <MrsB> morning tmb btw
19:18:19 <MrsB> So, we have somebody new \o/ (sort of)
19:18:40 <Zeldas7777> i am working on a project that will make producing new distros very easy in a very short time
19:19:28 <MrsB> Does anybody have any questions before we move on?
19:20:21 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates
19:20:25 <MrsB> thanks dave
19:20:47 <MrsB> So we're doing pretty well at the moment
19:21:14 <MrsB> #info madb is back up so our list is working again
19:21:36 <lewyssmith> The outage blocked me
19:21:40 <MrsB> How are you getting on with testing updates?
19:22:17 <lewyssmith> Thin time. My FTP server to test shorewell got pre-empted;
19:22:37 <MrsB> have a go at this one lewis https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9799
19:22:38 <[mbot> Bug 9799: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, qa-bugs, REOPENED , Sound system blocked by exiting root terminal in LXDE, lxdm
19:22:58 <MrsB> spiky, how bout you?
19:23:02 <DavidWHodgins> Zeldas7777:  The madb being referred to is http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates/application/0
19:23:03 <lewyssmith> and  trying polkit is not showing the updated packages
19:23:04 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db ]
19:23:20 <DavidWHodgins> That's what we use to see which updates are waiting for testing.
19:23:21 <MrsB> you maybe haven't configured your medias yet lewis
19:23:23 <spiky> I,ll pick something from there
19:23:47 <lewyssmith> Claire: I configure media until I a, blue in the face
19:23:51 <MrsB> :D
19:23:52 <swecarp> i realy neads some guidens from some one to start testing in vb. and remember im the stupid one here :)))
19:24:09 <MrsB> we can have a go tomorrow if you'll be around swecarp
19:24:32 <MrsB> in the daytime
19:25:11 <MrsB> lewis do you have the packages installed?
19:25:35 <lewyssmith> I installed all polkit thingies which seemed possible
19:25:36 <swecarp> theres 1 trubbel MrsB  im home from work around 1800 cet
19:26:15 <MrsB> hmm that's difficult for me. I'm out fetching MrB then and then doing dinner :\
19:26:35 <DavidWHodgins> swecarp: I can go through it with you, after this meeting, if you like.
19:26:35 <MrsB> sppiky or dave might be able to help though
19:27:01 <lewyssmith> Dave is good European afternoons
19:27:25 <MrsB> I'll be around mornings and afternoons but evenings are difficult
19:27:38 <DavidWHodgins> I just started for the day, about 45 minutes ago.
19:27:50 <swecarp> david im of to bed after meeting i will shout fore help when im on line next time
19:27:56 <MrsB> we cover most of the 24hrs between us :)
19:27:58 <DavidWHodgins> Ok
19:28:04 <sebsebseb> DavidWHodgins: you woke up in  the early aternoon for you?
19:28:23 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. Went to sleep around 5:30 am
19:28:24 <lewyssmith> swecarp: Try this chat room at any time to see whether someone is at home
19:28:25 <sebsebseb> or started teting updates then
19:28:35 <MrsB> lewis did you update your medias, urpmi.update -a after you enable it
19:28:48 <sebsebseb> oh latenight/early morning, how come, bet getting off topic now :d
19:28:49 <swecarp> i will lewyssmith
19:29:09 <MrsB> if nobody is around you can always ask on the list, it's our to use
19:29:38 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Alpha 3, should be with us very soon!
19:29:46 <lewyssmith> Good
19:30:05 <MrsB> Yep, we *should* see it in the next day or so hopefully
19:30:19 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: eta for the iso images?
19:30:22 <MrsB> #info alpha3 is due for release on october 2nd
19:30:22 <sebsebseb> Alpa 3 should be with us soon with GNOME 3.10..0  by default nice :)  and hopefuly that welcome screen by default too :)
19:31:18 <MrsB> #info there is a new MageiaWelcome waiting to be packaged, if we can get it in before the build
19:31:28 <tmb> DavidWHodgins: I hope to have a first build tomorrow night
19:31:52 <MrsB> thanks tmb
19:32:04 <MrsB> #info first build should arrive tomorrow night
19:32:31 <MrsB> Is everybody ready?
19:32:43 <DavidWHodgins> Ready here
19:33:12 <swecarp> ready
19:33:51 <MrsB> tmb could you let me know new rsync password asap please so we can be ready
19:34:05 <MrsB> me and dave please
19:34:16 <sebsebseb> I'll only test in Virttualbox this time round, since my desktop neeeds fixing, serious hardware issues, so  only on the netbook in Virtualbox  and one or two or so ISO's only for me as well
19:34:32 <MrsB> thats great sebsebseb
19:35:04 <MrsB> anybody want to ask anything ?
19:35:52 <sebsebseb> nope
19:35:59 <Zeldas7777> no
19:36:20 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup
19:36:21 <Led43-mag3> will it be the same p/word for rsync server
19:36:30 <sebsebseb> probaby
19:36:41 <MrsB> I think we'll probably change it this time, I'll email though as soon as I know
19:37:14 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping
19:37:18 <Led43-mag3> MrsB: ok, include me who knows i might be able to test
19:37:30 <MrsB> nah you won't, or shouldnt!
19:37:37 <sebsebseb> are  you on that wiki page?
19:37:40 <MrsB> i'll include you though
19:37:53 <MrsB> yes he is
19:37:56 <sebsebseb> ISO testers
19:38:13 <MrsB> Luigi12_lappy: ping
19:38:43 <MrsB> no Luigi :(
19:38:51 <sebsebseb> he doesn't seem to be about yeah
19:39:02 <Luigi12_work> sup
19:39:09 <swecarp> then its MrsB  round up
19:39:17 <Luigi12_work> was talking to my boss
19:39:25 <MrsB> Hiya Luigi12_work
19:39:26 <Luigi12_work> anyway, looks like we just have the polkit-related ones right now
19:39:28 <sebsebseb> swecarp: I was going to say that basially, but then he replied
19:39:38 <Luigi12_work> polkit is what's used for performing actions that require elevated privleges
19:39:53 <Luigi12_work> as far as what's on the horizon, it's the same as last week
19:40:08 <Luigi12_work> any questions?
19:40:13 <MrsB> I saw some kernels being built too
19:40:26 <MrsB> none here, thanks Luigi12_work
19:40:34 <sebsebseb> hi luigi
19:40:52 <tmb> I just added a possible hw breaker: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11296
19:40:53 <[mbot> Bug 11296: critical, High, qa-bugs, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: lm_sensors 3.3.3, lm_sensors
19:41:33 <MrsB> #info polkit/libvirt is the only outstanding security one at the moment, others from last week are still waiting
19:41:46 <tmb> I think I'll split the glibc br so mga3 can be tested, as the mga2 one still needs some work.
19:42:02 <MrsB> it's probably easier to manage that way too
19:42:24 <MrsB> If you have any advice for testing that could you add it to the bugs when you do them please
19:43:08 <MrsB> #info glibc is coming, it'll be split in 2 bugs as mga2 still needs work
19:44:43 <MrsB> tmb rindolf was saying his laptop overheated with cauldron, that could be be lm_sensors too i guess
19:45:26 <MrsB> or is it just monitoring
19:45:56 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: Looks like there is a problem with some hardware when running sensors-detect
19:46:06 <tmb> nope, the lm_sensors is monitoring stuff, and as it turns out it's hw probing can brick some hw, so its uggly
19:46:09 <MrsB> yeah was just readig
19:46:29 <MrsB> oh nice, and we get to test it :D
19:46:44 <DavidWHodgins> That one will require testing on real hardware
19:47:09 <MrsB> luckily, no recent hardware here :)
19:47:11 <tmb> well, test only that the updated package installs and works
19:47:48 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. Anyone who does have affected hardware cannot test it with the prior version
19:48:04 <MrsB> i suppose anyone affected already knows
19:48:17 <DavidWHodgins> Or has never run sensors-detect
19:48:21 <MrsB> yeah
19:48:41 <MrsB> right, so not much in the security dept today
19:49:00 <MrsB> I did see some sneaky kernel builds though and php is waiting in the wings
19:49:12 <DavidWHodgins> And VirtualBox
19:49:20 <Zeldas7777> has anyone developed packages for new rom flashes
19:49:30 <MrsB> nope
19:49:40 <MrsB> let's go on then shall we?
19:49:46 <Zeldas7777> k
19:49:52 <swecarp> yes
19:50:00 <MrsB> #topic Anything else?
19:50:07 * MrsB did it!
19:50:16 <DavidWHodgins> ☺
19:50:19 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
19:50:27 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here
19:50:32 <Led43-mag3> nope
19:50:38 <swecarp> nope
19:50:42 <lewyssmith> No
19:50:49 <marja> not here
19:50:54 <MrsB> ok T - 5
19:50:58 <MrsB> 4
19:51:00 <MrsB> 3
19:51:02 <MrsB> 2
19:51:04 <MrsB> 1
19:51:05 <tmb> as for kernels...
19:51:08 <swecarp> booooooooooom
19:51:12 <MrsB> Thankyou for coming everyone :)
19:51:21 <MrsB> ohh in at the last second
19:51:31 <Zeldas7777> when is next meeting
19:51:34 <tmb> mga3 will get 3.10.13 and mga2 2.4.63 pushed...
19:51:37 <MrsB> weekly Zeldas7777
19:52:00 <MrsB> #info kernels mga3 will get 3.10.13 and mga2 2.4.63 are coming
19:52:00 <lewyssmith> 1900 GMT/UTC
19:52:11 <MrsB> thanks guys
19:52:21 <MrsB> #endmeeting