19:03:19 <MrsB> #startmeeting
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19:03:35 <MrsB> Morning all, welcome to another meeting :)
19:03:48 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins
19:03:48 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB
19:03:48 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new?
19:03:54 * MrsB a bit rusty
19:03:57 <Stormi> o/
19:04:01 <MrsB> hi stormi
19:04:06 <Stormi> am I new?
19:04:08 <MrsB> and lewyssmith
19:04:23 <MrsB> Is there anybody new? (apart from stormi)
19:04:59 <MrsB> doesn't look like it. Welcome to the QA team Stormi :P
19:05:02 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Alpha 3
19:05:06 <Stormi> :)
19:05:15 <MrsB> Thanks Dave
19:05:34 <MrsB> We have about a week now until alpha3 testing begins
19:05:42 <MrsB> #info alpha3 testing in about a week
19:05:47 <wilcal> What condition will Gnome be in
19:06:06 <DavidWHodgins> gnome shell still doesn't start in vb i586
19:06:09 <MrsB> It's due for release on 2nd October with beta1 following at the end of october so going to be a busy month for us
19:06:27 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_4_Development
19:06:40 <tmb> Gnome will be at 3.10 rc1 so hopefully something will work
19:06:50 <MrsB> Hi tmb
19:06:51 <wilcal> At A3???
19:07:20 <wilcal> It's almost unusable
19:07:24 <tmb> MrsB: hi
19:07:39 <MrsB> It's early days, it'll stabilise as time goes on
19:07:49 <MrsB> not really supposed to be useable at the moment
19:08:14 <MrsB> rc1 should see some improvements you'd imagine though
19:08:32 <MrsB> our last one was a bit rough IIRC
19:08:34 <wilcal> I'd hope so
19:08:52 <lewyssmith> IIRC = ?
19:09:08 <DavidWHodgins> If I Remember Correctly
19:09:14 <lewyssmith> Thanks
19:09:35 <MrsB> We need to make every effort to release on the planned schedule with Mageia 4 as we have a fixed final deadline to meet
19:09:49 <MrsB> it'll be good to get into the habit of hitting our planning schedule
19:10:10 <wilcal> This Mageia release has to stay on Schedule because of the intent to release it at FOSDEM in Feb
19:10:17 <MrsB> it means we really need everybody testing to be able to do so
19:10:24 <MrsB> yes thats right
19:10:43 <MrsB> is everybody OK to do that?
19:10:49 <wilcal> Yep
19:11:04 <dvg> i'll do what i can
19:11:06 <lewyssmith> Will organise myself thus
19:11:15 <MrsB> dvg o/
19:11:26 <MrsB> lol lewis
19:11:39 <MrsB> How are your stairs btw?
19:11:51 <lewyssmith> Done, thanks. Lovely but a pain to make
19:11:57 <swecarp> i will test as mutch as i can
19:12:06 <MrsB> swecarp great, thanks
19:12:43 <MrsB> please do make an effort though, we've all more or less done it before now and know what to expect
19:13:02 <wilcal> A3 should be a little smoother the A1/2
19:13:14 <MrsB> let's hope so :)
19:13:28 <MrsB> it's still in heavy development though and still early days
19:13:33 <swecarp> and some bugs fixed
19:13:42 <MrsB> things start to stabilise after version freeze really
19:13:42 <DavidWHodgins> Hopefully. tmb, is anyone working on the installer for the network renaming problems?
19:13:44 <dvg> "should be" does not help much
19:14:15 <MrsB> and networkmanger feature
19:15:36 <MrsB> Anybody anything to ask on this bit?
19:15:50 <MrsB> or add
19:15:56 <tmb> DavidWHodgins: for now I dont know, I have been busy with my dayjob, so I'm currently playing catch-up
19:16:05 <wilcal> I'll have some time to contribute, as always
19:16:23 <MrsB> great wilcal :)
19:16:26 <tmb> I will try to check it out soon-ish
19:16:49 <wilcal> I think I've been one of the first to test the alpha
19:17:12 <wilcal> people create the ISO's and go to bed
19:17:22 <MrsB> we ought to have a prize for the first one didn't we
19:17:29 <wilcal> So I'm 9-hours behind you guys
19:17:49 <wilcal> I get to see the bugs 1st :-)).....
19:17:52 <MrsB> hmm that's true, you'd have to fight Dave for it
19:18:00 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:18:21 <wilcal> Me an Dave beat up on them ISO's
19:18:34 <MrsB> Lets move on then shall we, as always things will be announced on the ML and probably an email too this time
19:18:39 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing Updates
19:18:46 <MrsB> tah
19:18:53 <MrsB> Soooo hows it going?
19:19:10 <wilcal> I got a little confused with the qupzilla thing
19:19:22 <MrsB> the list is short which is good, all bugfixes now too so ideal to have a go at
19:19:25 <wilcal> Not understanding the language thing
19:19:31 <wilcal> yep short list today
19:19:37 <DavidWHodgins> We're down to 5 awaiting testing, with 1 of those waiting for feedback.
19:19:46 <MrsB> Dave has been pulling trees up recently
19:19:55 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:20:01 <wilcal> The nVidia thing seems a little confusing
19:20:17 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates the list
19:20:19 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db ]
19:20:27 <DavidWHodgins> The nvidia one, I cannot test, as both of my systems use radeons.
19:20:46 <wilcal> Is it any nVidia system or just a few
19:21:20 <MrsB> i have nvidia, i can look at that one. Maybe tomorrow if I can get my head going again
19:21:22 <wilcal> I think I have to start with a clean new install on my video editor platform
19:21:48 <MrsB> lewis have you had a go at any?
19:22:07 <lewyssmith> The shorewall thing; 1/2 way through. dave has helped
19:22:20 <MrsB> good stuff :) how are you getting on ?
19:22:31 <lewyssmith> Setting up an ftp server to test inward connections
19:22:54 <lewyssmith> Lots to read
19:22:56 <MrsB> that's fairly straightforward
19:22:56 <tmb> what nVidia problem ?
19:23:11 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10485
19:23:12 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10485
19:23:12 <[mbot> Bug 10485: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, qa-bugs, NEW , XBMC 12.1 has problems playing back videos on Nvidia driver 319.17 (as shipped in Mageia 3) with VDPAU enabled, xbmc-12.1-2.mga3.src.rpm
19:23:13 <DavidWHodgins> xbmc
19:23:13 <[mbot> Bug 10485: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, qa-bugs, NEW , XBMC 12.1 has problems playing back videos on Nvidia driver 319.17 (as shipped in Mageia 3) with VDPAU enabled, xbmc-12.1-2.mga3.src.rpm
19:24:16 <MrsB> anything you need help with, just yell, or email lewis
19:24:24 <lewyssmith> I do
19:24:52 <tmb> ah, ok
19:24:58 <MrsB> wilcal the qupzilla one I think you probably installed qupzilla before the locale
19:25:29 <wilcal> I was finally able to duplicate the bug just before you pushed it
19:25:55 <wilcal> but the same call in a termial using firefox did not turn firefox French and that confused me
19:26:14 <MrsB> you learned something though, which is always good
19:26:33 <wilcal> I learn something on all of them and contribute what I can
19:26:40 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Is firefox-fr installed?
19:26:46 <wilcal> Nope
19:26:53 <wilcal> see I'm learn'n
19:26:56 <MrsB> you need the locale installed before the application
19:27:08 <DavidWHodgins> So it doesn't find the translation and falls back to english, as expected.
19:28:00 <MrsB> Anybody want to add anything more here ?
19:28:16 <MrsB> It's an ideal time to have a go at stuff
19:28:44 <wilcal> I'm good
19:28:50 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup
19:28:56 <MrsB> thanks
19:29:09 <MrsB> I'm not sure he's here, he's marked away
19:29:14 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_lappy
19:29:14 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping?
19:29:23 <Luigi12_lappy> boo
19:29:26 <MrsB> ahhaa
19:29:28 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:29:34 <wilcal> Hi ya Luigi
19:29:47 <Luigi12_lappy> I was getting ready for the meeting so I wasn't watching the channel :o)
19:29:51 <MrsB> welcome, the floor is yours!
19:30:43 <Luigi12_lappy> glad we got the last batch of updates pushed.  Hopefully someone will build FF/TB 24 for updates_testing soon so we can start testing those
19:30:59 <Luigi12_lappy> guillomovitch built a GLPI update for Mageia 3, so that's just been pushed to QA
19:31:06 <MrsB> #info Hopefully someone will build FF/TB 24 for updates_testing soon so we can start testing those
19:32:18 <MrsB> #info glpi is ready for testing
19:32:34 <Luigi12_lappy> dmorgan is back to working on the Java stack in Cauldron, and has a ways to go, but he wants to work on his security updates if he can get through that.  So we might see those by the end of the year.
19:32:47 <MrsB> ahh cool, tomcat
19:32:49 <Luigi12_lappy> AL13N is working on updates for xen and mariadb, which should find their way to QA eventually
19:33:26 <Luigi12_lappy> tmb has glibc and kernel updates in the works; sounds like these will be a bit of work for tmb, so not imminient just yet
19:33:42 <MrsB> #info updates for xen & mariadb on their way and hopefully some dmorgan ones later
19:34:07 <Luigi12_lappy> I might have to push the nmap mga3 update to QA since nothing's happened for mga2 still, and I'm still waiting on jq or someone to update a couple of perl modules
19:34:20 <MrsB> may as well do
19:34:35 <Luigi12_lappy> solbu might update ssmtp for a TLS certification validation issue at some point
19:34:49 <tmb> glibc for mga3 will build tonight, for mga2 it will be this weekend.
19:35:03 <Luigi12_lappy> if spturtle returns to packaging, maybe we'll see a mga2 libzypp update or iceape update, but we'll see
19:35:21 <MrsB> #info nmap for 3 may be coming but waiting for jq or someone to update a couple of perl modules for 2 to be ready
19:35:33 <Luigi12_lappy> there are some libraw security issues that affect a bunch of packages (like libkdcraw and darktable) that we'll hopefully fix before too long
19:36:01 <Luigi12_lappy> and there's a polkit security issue, just publicly announced yesterday, that requires updating several packages to fix it (including libvirt, spice-gtk, rtkit, systemd, and hplip)
19:36:31 <Luigi12_lappy> also python-oauth2 needs a security fix, and this is coling's package
19:36:56 <Luigi12_lappy> so that's all I know about right now
19:37:04 <lewyssmith> All?
19:37:08 <Luigi12_lappy> :o)
19:37:28 <Luigi12_lappy> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=comp%3Asecu%20-%40qa-b&list_id=14201 is the full list
19:37:31 <MrsB> #info coming soon.. ssmtp, libraw (and associated libkdraw darktable etc), polkit (and associated libvirt, spice-gtk, rtkit, ststemd & hplip) and python-oauth
19:37:38 <wilcal> Quite the listing
19:38:20 <Luigi12_lappy> any questions?
19:38:21 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
19:38:28 <lewyssmith> Are all updates/bug fixes automatically in Mag4?
19:38:34 <wilcal> I've something to share with all before we go.
19:38:35 <MrsB> Thanks Luigi12_lappy
19:38:42 <wilcal> Thks Luigi
19:38:52 <Luigi12_lappy> lewyssmith: I generally try to see that things are fixed in Cauldron before pushing updates to QA for stable releases
19:38:54 <MrsB> lewyssmith: they should be fixed in cauldron first usually
19:39:14 <lewyssmith> Is not Mag4 Cauldron?
19:39:19 <MrsB> yep
19:39:24 <MrsB> well, sort of
19:39:31 <DavidWHodgins> For now, yes.
19:40:08 <dvg> It is the alpha of 4, aka cauldron
19:40:35 <MrsB> cauldron will become mga4 and snapshots are taken which become alpha, beta releases etc. When all the kinks are worked out it'll be released as a final and cauldron will then reopen for new mayhem
19:40:37 <wilcal> Alpha/Beta are stakes in the ground Cauldon is a moving target
19:41:10 <marja> wilcal: nice description :)
19:41:43 <MrsB> Is there anything else else?
19:41:47 <wilcal> I've something to share with all before we go.
19:41:55 <MrsB> wilcal sharing?
19:42:01 <wilcal> Yep
19:42:03 <wilcal> I won't be here next week.
19:42:03 <MrsB> yep, go for it
19:42:04 <wilcal> Next Thursday I will be at a Technology Trade show up in Los Angeles.
19:42:06 <wilcal> This is the yearly Digital Video Expo where all the companies that
19:42:06 <dvg> you need my a/c no
19:42:07 <wilcal> supply the movie industry with Digital Equipment show their latest
19:42:09 <wilcal> equipment. Cameras, Lighting, Mics, Editors, Lenses and on and on.
19:42:10 <wilcal> I've never met a Hollywood Star at one of these things, this will be
19:42:12 <wilcal> my sixth, but I've met quite a few award winning people behind the
19:42:13 <wilcal> cameras. Including Oscar winners ( Cinematographers ). The German
19:42:15 <wilcal> Company ARRI is always well represented at this show. I wear my
19:42:16 <wilcal> Mageia polo shirt and my OpenShot baseball cap. Always good for
19:42:18 <wilcal> starting a conversation with the Hollywood ( Tinsel Town ) crowd.
19:43:10 <MrsB> have a good trip then wilcal!
19:43:16 <MrsB> that reminds me..
19:43:22 <wilcal> It's a blast to mingle with those folks
19:43:30 <marja> wilcal: enjoy and get them to use Mageia :-)
19:44:01 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent
19:44:02 <wilcal> When OpenShot and Light release next year on M5 we could very well get some Tinsel Town users
19:44:12 <MrsB> feel free to make use of this page :)
19:44:37 <MrsB> #info wilcal is goin to mingle with the stars next week!
19:44:54 <wilcal> Yep,
19:45:27 <MrsB> you could ask atelier for some fliers to leave strewn around ;)
19:46:05 <wilcal> Lightworks on Linux
19:46:28 <MrsB> nice to see that kind of thing
19:46:47 <wilcal> Lots of people hate Win8
19:46:47 <MrsB> Sooo is there anything else else before we finish?
19:47:03 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here.
19:47:18 <lewyssmith> Ditto
19:47:19 <wilcal> see you all in a couple weeks
19:47:27 <MrsB> okely dokley
19:47:31 <wilcal> You'll see me with A3
19:47:34 <MrsB> Thank you all for coming
19:47:41 <MrsB> enjoy your week wilcal
19:47:49 <lewyssmith> Cheerio
19:48:01 <MrsB> #endmeeting