20:08:38 <MrsB> #startmeeting 20:08:38 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Nov 22 20:08:38 2012 UTC. The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:08:38 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:08:38 <rindolf> MrsB: OK. 20:08:49 * rindolf has a glass of lemon juice. 20:08:52 <rindolf> Well, from extract. 20:08:57 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins 20:08:57 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB 20:09:01 <DavidWHodgins> #topic DuckDuckGo 20:09:13 <MrsB> Hi all and welcome to another meet :) 20:09:19 <rindolf> Hi all. 20:09:22 <Kernewes> hi all 20:10:06 <MrsB> If you remember a few months ago, I mentioned that we had been approached by duckduckgo with an offer 20:10:23 <rindolf> I do. 20:10:28 <Kernewes> yes 20:10:42 <MrsB> if we include their search as one of the searches in our browsers.. 20:11:15 <MrsB> when people use that search to buy $STUFF then Mageia will get a share of their affiliate fees 20:11:52 <MrsB> It was agreed that we would do so but not as the default search engine, as an optional one instead 20:12:04 <rindolf> OK. 20:12:15 <MrsB> The news is that the contract has now been signed 20:12:15 <Kernewes> yes 20:12:31 <Latte> nice 20:12:36 <MrsB> Work is under way to add the search engine as an option to our browsers 20:12:43 <Kernewes> good 20:13:06 <MrsB> I think we agreed it could be introduced in mga2 also if feasible to do so 20:13:31 <DavidWHodgins> Just checked. It's not in todays firefox update. 20:13:32 <MrsB> not as a specific update but along with regular updates 20:14:10 <MrsB> I'm not sure whether that will happen or not yet 20:14:36 <MrsB> any comments/questions about this? 20:15:00 <Latte> no 20:15:04 <Kernewes> no 20:15:17 <DavidWHodgins> I guess next firefox update, we should check to see if it's added or not. 20:15:39 <MrsB> yes, good idea 20:16:05 <MrsB> I think if it is added in mga2 it would only affect a newly created user on the system 20:16:18 <MrsB> and then only add an option 20:16:59 <MrsB> lets move on then 20:17:06 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Beta 1 20:17:13 <MrsB> thankyou :) 20:17:32 <MrsB> We don't have all that long before beta 1 will be with us 20:18:02 <MrsB> it is planned for release on december 12th meaning we should expect to get the first ISOs around the 2nd or 3rd 20:18:20 <DavidWHodgins> So late next week. 20:18:40 <MrsB> we should try and reduce our bugs list as much as we can before it gets here 20:18:46 <Latte> are there any differences in testing alpha or beta isos? 20:19:29 <DavidWHodgins> Not really. First beta still won't have all expected features, may, or may not have grub2. 20:19:29 <MrsB> It's still quite early in the cycle but we should start to see some new features in the beta 20:20:03 <MrsB> It's expected that there mihgt be the Nonfree on the installer ISOs 20:20:06 <MrsB> might* 20:20:18 <Kernewes> so what's the aim with the alphas if there aren't any new features? 20:20:23 <DavidWHodgins> Won't fit on the dual, so only on the dvd installers. 20:20:29 <MrsB> yep 20:20:45 <MrsB> Its all part of release early release often Kernewes 20:21:02 <Kernewes> what does that mean? 20:21:11 <MrsB> it enables people to test on various hardware with various configurations 20:21:23 <DavidWHodgins> Helps the iso builders get the list of rpm packages to include correct. 20:21:38 <MrsB> identify issues early in the dev cycle 20:21:46 <Kernewes> so it's the real under-the-hood stuff primarily 20:21:53 <MrsB> primarily yes 20:21:57 <Kernewes> I see 20:22:13 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. Make sure the install creates a usable system, that can then install updates. 20:22:24 <Kernewes> ok 20:22:44 <MrsB> betas we can start to look in more detail but will need to bear in mind that the final release is not planned until march and alot will change between now and then 20:22:47 <DavidWHodgins> For alpha/early beta, that's about all we really care about. 20:22:59 <Kernewes> thanks 20:23:10 <MrsB> still file bugs for anything you find though 20:23:20 <DavidWHodgins> Later beta, and then rc, we'll get a lot more picky about everything being as perfect as possible. 20:23:27 <MrsB> exactly yes 20:23:33 <Kernewes> that reminds me, I must sort out that printer one 20:23:44 <Kernewes> I forgot about it and took alpha 3 off my testing machine 20:23:48 <leuhmanu> you can also tests all install case 20:23:51 <MrsB> artwork for example will arrive probably in beta 2 20:23:51 <Kernewes> will have to put it back on again 20:24:00 <leuhmanu> like lvm + encrypted 20:24:18 <Latte> Kernewes: me, too ;) 20:24:23 <leuhmanu> /usr in a different partiotion etc 20:24:31 <Kernewes> leuhmanu: you mean try all the various options 20:24:54 <leuhmanu> yep 20:25:02 <Kernewes> now it's becoming clearer 20:25:06 <leuhmanu> we have some blocking bugs 20:25:07 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. We have to ensure the usrmove works in all possible cases. lvm on encrypted, encrypted on lvm, etc. 20:25:10 <sebsebseb> oh yeah QA meeting 20:25:14 <sebsebseb> been distracted 20:25:19 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: hi 20:25:23 <leuhmanu> but I don't if they are still valids 20:25:29 <MrsB> what else was coming for beta 1, can you remember Dave? I've not had a chance to prepare very well today 20:25:29 <leuhmanu> +know :s 20:26:11 <DavidWHodgins> From the developers mailing list, not clear if grub 2 will be included. Looks like installer running under systemd will not make it for beta 1. 20:26:22 <MrsB> ahh yes of course, grub 2 20:26:37 <Kernewes> MrsB: difficult to prepare from the loft, I would imagine :) 20:26:44 <MrsB> also there are plans to integrate systemd into the installer, but that will not make it into beta 1 20:26:46 * leuhmanu have seen anything in the svn 20:27:20 <MrsB> we've done all sorts so far Kernewes, drilled holes through walls and made some double glazing even! 20:27:27 <sebsebseb> Kernewes: yep hi 20:27:35 <Kernewes> MrsB: wow, can you come and sort out my place after that? 20:27:47 <MrsB> lol we'll be broken by then 20:28:00 <Kernewes> MrsB: broken or broke, or both? 20:28:06 <MrsB> bit of both :\ 20:28:26 <DavidWHodgins> Beta 1 should have the newer kde, I think. 20:28:31 <MrsB> so are there any other comments/questions on beta 1? 20:28:36 <Kernewes> no 20:28:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic ISO testing help page for new testers 20:29:06 <MrsB> Ahh yes 20:29:13 <DavidWHodgins> http://bn.parinux.org/p/howto_qa_iso 20:29:14 <[mbot> [ Etherpad Lite ] 20:29:32 <MrsB> We still need to work on a help page for new ISO testers 20:29:35 <MrsB> like that yes 20:29:36 <DavidWHodgins> Need to go back and update it some more. Keep forgetting about it. 20:29:59 <MrsB> This week would have been the ideal time to spend on that but I've hardly been here at all so far 20:30:29 <DavidWHodgins> Lot of yard work here, getting ready for winter. 20:30:51 <MrsB> could we make it a joint effort please, all add what you know. Any help for things like using the pad, dual booting, creating bugs etc 20:31:14 <MrsB> using usb sticks and stuff 20:31:23 <MrsB> using vbox 20:31:38 <MrsB> anything you think would be useful for somebody coming new to iso testing 20:32:20 <MrsB> anybody anything to add? 20:32:26 <DavidWHodgins> Not here. 20:32:42 <rindolf> Well, I've ran into some serious bugs with KDE on Cauldron. 20:32:54 <rindolf> But this can wait. 20:33:26 <MrsB> lets move on then 20:33:27 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup 20:33:39 <MrsB> Luigi12: ping? 20:34:00 <MrsB> not sure if he's here, he's usually _work at this time 20:34:15 <DavidWHodgins> I'm in the process of testing firefox and thunderbird on all 4 vb installs right now. 20:34:26 <Kernewes> we'll have to round down instead of round up 20:34:52 <MrsB> yes, basically we have firefox and thunderbird which are priority updates right now 20:35:02 <DavidWHodgins> I started testing abrt yesterday. Will finish testing it after ff and tb. 20:35:11 <MrsB> I was hoping he would be here to have an input to our next topic 20:35:53 <MrsB> lets skip the roundup and see if he comes later, we can do it again 20:36:03 <sebsebseb> ok 20:36:04 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 1 EOL - Do we need to set a deadline for the last updates? 20:36:12 <MrsB> thanks :) 20:36:26 <sebsebseb> Mageai 1 probably not being taken that seriously now for any updates :d 20:36:28 <sebsebseb> since EOL is so close 20:36:28 <Kernewes> the deadline would have to be now, wouldn't it 20:36:36 <MrsB> So Mageia 1 will become End of Life on December 1st 20:36:42 <DavidWHodgins> I'm under the impression, that any updates for Mageia 1, are ok as long as they get validated/pushed before the 1st. 20:36:52 <MrsB> they are, that is true 20:37:06 <DavidWHodgins> Anything still in updates testing on the 1st will get deleted, as I understand it. 20:37:13 <Kernewes> time is running out for testing them though 20:37:13 <MrsB> I don't want us to become bogged down with last minute updates for an EOL release though 20:37:15 <sebsebseb> why update Mageia 1 before EOL, well, because people will still be running it for quite a while after I guess yeah, and possbily me even on this computer hmm, not sure eyt 20:37:24 <sebsebseb> yet 20:37:44 <MrsB> Beta 1 is expect 2 days after mga1 eol 20:37:44 <leuhmanu> I can keep the sec bugs open if you want :) 20:37:48 <MrsB> expected* 20:38:15 <sebsebseb> I thought Beta 1 was the 12th? 20:38:21 <MrsB> release, yes 20:38:24 <MrsB> not qa 20:38:27 <DavidWHodgins> Firefox and tb, I've finished testing on Mageia 1, just haven't updated the but report yet. 20:38:34 <sebsebseb> ah right the pre release Beta 1, oh ok yeah 20:38:42 <DavidWHodgins> sebsebseb: That's public release. We get it sooner. 20:38:56 <sebsebseb> DavidWHodgins: yep indeed 20:39:03 <MrsB> Anyway, the point is.. Should we set a deadline, after which it's too late to send updates for QA for mga1? 20:39:13 <DavidWHodgins> The only other security update outstanding for Mageia 1 is kolab, and it's a bad update that should be deleted. 20:39:21 <sebsebseb> MrsB: `uhmm December 1st as that deadline? :d heh heh 20:39:49 <DavidWHodgins> November 30th, for things that are easy to test. We'll have to play it by ear. 20:39:56 <Kernewes> MrsB: it would have to be within the next few days, I would have thought 20:40:14 <MrsB> I know Luigi12 pinged alot of old updates which have been wanting packager attention so it's possible we could get a deluge at a bad time 20:40:55 <DavidWHodgins> We'll have to make sure we are all prepared to do a lot of testing in the last few days of this month. 20:41:11 <MrsB> well, either that or set a deadline :P 20:41:41 <Kernewes> we are into the last few days of this month 20:41:44 <DavidWHodgins> If there's a critical security update, for something like firefox, that only gets an update on the 30th, we should try to get it through. 20:41:56 <MrsB> If we are tied up testing last minute updates for an eol release it means we won't reduce our mga2 list in time for beta 1 iso testing on dec 3rd 20:42:00 <sebsebseb> Kernewes: Mageia 1's second last Thursday is today! 20:42:25 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: that's what I mean, if there's a deadline it needs to be now! 20:42:37 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. Friday of next week is last possible day for Mageia 1 updates. 20:43:03 <sebsebseb> or maybe 1st Dec? 20:43:04 <DavidWHodgins> I don't think we should impose a deadline. Let's wait and see if there are any critical updates. 20:43:14 <leuhmanu> (current list https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cc%3Aqa-bugs+OR+ass%3Aqa-bugs+ver%3A1 ) 20:43:38 <Kernewes> or if we get a sudden deluge, postpone eol by a few days? 20:43:49 <sebsebseb> Kernewes: nope EOL is fixed 20:43:50 <sebsebseb> that's it 20:43:53 <Kernewes> ok 20:43:54 <sebsebseb> EOL won't get delayed 20:43:56 <MrsB> no, we won't postpone 20:44:04 <leuhmanu> well it is not so strict 20:44:12 <sebsebseb> if anything though provide some last updates on the 1st Dec? 20:44:14 <MrsB> we can't anyway, and shouldn't we need to concentrate on mga2 20:44:16 <sebsebseb> ones that have been tested by QA I mean 20:44:24 <DavidWHodgins> We should be flexible, if there are critical security updates. 20:44:35 <MrsB> we can't afford to neglect mga2 to ruch through updates for a dead release 20:44:51 <sebsebseb> DavidWHodgins: maybe, but the idea of EOL is, major security issues, well no fix, it's gone EOL 20:45:20 <sebsebseb> so any recent major security updates are meant to be fixed before EOL 20:45:35 <DavidWHodgins> After the 1st, yes, but up until then, we should try and get any updates that come through tested and validated before the 1st, if possible. 20:45:44 <sebsebseb> DavidWHodgins: yep agreed :) 20:46:00 <MrsB> I think yu've missed the point a bit Dave 20:46:14 <MrsB> I agree with what you say though 20:46:17 <DavidWHodgins> Be right back 20:46:39 <sebsebseb> yep Mageia 1 is still ment to be taken seriously at the moment for updates, not the attiude oh well it's about to go EOL soon anyway 20:46:58 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: it's just bad timing potentially 20:47:28 <sebsebseb> Kernewes: what with Mageia 2 needing certian updates to, you mean? 20:47:46 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: yep, and beta 1 due as well 20:47:49 <DavidWHodgins> Back 20:47:54 <sebsebseb> right, but will have this kind of thing again 20:47:58 <sebsebseb> when it's nearly time for Mageia 2 to go EOL 20:48:22 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: probably 20:48:24 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, I understand Mageia 1 is about to go eol, but any updates that do come through, should be validated if possible. 20:48:27 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: we need more QA members 20:48:32 <MrsB> It's more to do with the possible affect focussing on mga1 will have on mga2. On Dec 3rd we will be concentrating on ISO testing for ten days, meaning any outstanding updates for mga2 usually have to wait for the duration. Obviously sec updates we will tackle where possible too. 20:48:52 <sebsebseb> MrsB: yep indeed 20:50:19 <MrsB> perhaps instead of a dealine it's enough to say we need to focus on mga2 20:50:24 <MrsB> deadline* 20:50:38 <sebsebseb> yeah I guess 20:50:51 <Luigi12> boo 20:50:56 <MrsB> ahhaaa 20:50:57 <Luigi12> no work today, it's Thanksgiving 20:50:57 * Kernewes jumps 20:51:02 <DavidWHodgins> I agree we need to focus on Mageia 2 prior to the iso testing, but for the last couple of days of Mageia 1, we should be prepared to focus on that for one or two days. 20:51:02 <sebsebseb> also I think Atelier might be doing another blog post soon, to remind people of the EOL, not sure about that one quite though 20:51:08 <MrsB> Ohh happy thanksgiving :) 20:51:13 <sebsebseb> there was one ealrier this month, but might be another, don't know 20:51:23 * Luigi12 seems to be the only packager that cares about Mageia 1 anymore 20:51:28 <Luigi12> the others act like EOL was a month ago 20:51:33 <sebsebseb> Luigi12: oh 20:51:36 <Luigi12> so don't worry about getting a rush of last minute updates 20:51:47 <Luigi12> I did the last of my old TODO list yesterday, and Dave validated them already 20:51:49 <MrsB> I have to :) 20:51:59 <sebsebseb> I got an update recently for Mageia 1 20:52:02 <sebsebseb> whatever it was, can't remember quite now 20:52:09 <DavidWHodgins> Probably opera. 20:52:11 <Luigi12> I don't plan any other updates except new ones that come to light 20:52:18 <sebsebseb> well it's meant to get security updates to the end for sure ;) 20:52:29 <sebsebseb> DavidWHodgins: don't have that installed 20:52:47 <Luigi12> yes I'll try to stay on top of any new updates needed through the 1st, but I don't expect there to be much 20:52:57 <Luigi12> nobody wants to help with any of the other outstanding needed updates 20:53:05 <sebsebseb> last updates for Mageia 1, on the 1st? or on 30th? 20:53:14 <sebsebseb> if there are any I mean 20:53:16 <DavidWHodgins> 30th, is my understanding. 20:53:21 <Luigi12> 1st 20:53:25 <Luigi12> EOL is the 1st 20:53:26 <sebsebseb> the 1st oh ok :) 20:53:32 <DavidWHodgins> 1st, updates testing gets wiped, I thought. 20:53:34 <sebsebseb> last updates on the 1st, if there are any, ok :) 20:53:41 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. 1st then. 20:53:46 <Luigi12> can't wipe on the 1st if it's still supported that day 20:53:47 <DavidWHodgins> Saturday. 20:53:49 <Luigi12> wipe on the 2nd 20:53:58 <sebsebseb> what you mean wipe? 20:54:05 <MrsB> clear updates testing 20:54:06 <Luigi12> delete everything in updates_testing 20:54:09 <DavidWHodgins> Anything still in updates testing gets deleted. 20:54:12 <sebsebseb> Luigi12: oh ok 20:54:16 <MrsB> \o/ 20:54:25 <sebsebseb> ,but the Mageia 1 repos are going to be frozen as well I think? so could still get packages into Mageia 1, but yeah no more updates 20:54:35 <Luigi12> no new packages either 20:54:39 <DavidWHodgins> Correct. 20:54:39 <MrsB> no new updates 20:54:49 <sebsebseb> ,but the repos will still be there for the time being, but froozen? 20:54:54 <leuhmanu> yes 20:54:58 <Luigi12> yes it will remain on the mirrors 20:54:59 <leuhmanu> like in mdv 20:55:02 <MrsB> yep, tincluding the updates pero, just it won't be added to 20:55:11 <MrsB> typo night :\ 20:55:15 <sebsebseb> right ok yeah good :) just checking 20:55:24 <sebsebseb> and indeed Mandriva 2010.2 went EOL, but could still get from the repos stuff it seems 20:55:34 <MrsB> so no fixed deadline 20:55:41 <Luigi12> sebsebseb: that's because of contrib 20:55:42 <leuhmanu> mdv 2010.2 is an exception 20:55:42 * MrsB overruled :D 20:55:46 <Luigi12> they didn't freeze the contrib repository 20:55:50 <sebsebseb> oh? 20:55:55 <Luigi12> main is frozen 20:56:07 <Luigi12> actually it's all frozen now because SVN and the build system were shut down 20:56:10 <sebsebseb> right, but when it's forzen, can stil download from that repo? 20:56:24 <Luigi12> yes, it doesn't get deleted from the mirrors for years 20:56:27 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. No more uploads to it. 20:56:28 <leuhmanu> yes as you have rpm on mirrors 20:56:39 <sebsebseb> right ok :) so same thing for Mageia 1 then :) 20:56:50 <sebsebseb> so for an offline install for example, it could still be quite useable really :d 20:56:57 <DavidWHodgins> I've now got my own mirror. No srpms or debug repos. 112G 20:57:12 <sebsebseb> if it's offline, dont' have to worry about security updatates etc anyway :) 20:57:42 <MrsB> so, lets go back and do Luigi's Roundup now he's here 20:57:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup 20:58:02 <sebsebseb> and only Luigi12 doing pacakges for Mageia 1 now apparnatly as well yeah 20:58:03 <MrsB> part 2 20:58:11 <MrsB> Over to you David 20:58:30 <Luigi12> not much to say for teh roundup since Dave validated almost everything already :D Thanks Dave! 20:58:36 <Luigi12> We do have Firefox and Thunderbird as usual 20:59:03 <DavidWHodgins> Haven't updated the bug report yet, but I've tested Mageia 1 i586 and x86-64 already. 20:59:05 <MrsB> did you see i had a problem with TB 20:59:08 <Luigi12> this will be the last update of those for mga1 barring an emergency update like 10.0.10 was 20:59:24 <Luigi12> MrsB: I did, I have no idea about that, you did say it seemed to still work 20:59:40 <Luigi12> stupid Gmail claims FF is old too :o( 20:59:40 <MrsB> yes but it wanted to update from Mozilla 20:59:46 <Luigi12> oh, weird 20:59:50 <MrsB> not a good update that way 20:59:55 <Luigi12> we're suposed to have that disabled 21:00:00 <Luigi12> we didn't change anything in the package 21:00:10 <MrsB> It said it was incompaitble 21:00:24 <DavidWHodgins> Clair, was that in Mageia 2? x86-64 or i586? 21:00:27 <Luigi12> not sure there's much we can do about it 21:00:29 <MrsB> mga2 32 21:00:29 <leuhmanu> you don't have two release ? 21:00:38 <leuhmanu> like for lightning 21:00:45 <Luigi12> don't think we have a maintainer for it anymore 21:00:57 <leuhmanu> one for th 10 and one for 14 and above 21:01:19 <Kernewes> MrsB: Gmail moaned about IE on my neighbour's computer 21:01:23 <MrsB> I'll test it on here in a bit too (mga2 64) 21:01:55 <DavidWHodgins> I'm testing with enigmail too, and had no problem on Mageia 1. 21:02:01 <Luigi12> if there's a minor problem, we can see if we can find someone to fix it for when we update to the next ESR branch (if it's still an issue there) 21:02:02 <Kernewes> MrsB: correction, it wasn't Gmail it was Facebook 21:02:13 <MrsB> ahh, that's ok Kernewes 21:02:26 <Luigi12> I imagine it won't be an issue 21:02:51 <Luigi12> it isn't clear yet what upstream's plans are, but I'm guessing this was the last update for the 10 branch 21:03:09 <MrsB> I wouldn't like to validate if it says enigmail is incompatible and downloads the mozilla one 21:03:45 <Luigi12> well like I said, that's only a minor problem, and I don't know that we can do anything about it 21:03:47 <MrsB> I'll have to test here too and see if it was an enigma 21:04:00 <Luigi12> can always ask on the mageia-dev list for help 21:04:05 <Luigi12> see if anyone has an idea about it 21:04:13 <MrsB> yep 21:04:16 <leuhmanu> what is the enigmail version ? 21:04:25 <Luigi12> what is enigmail anyway? 21:04:37 <leuhmanu> for GnuPG 21:04:45 <Luigi12> so it's a thunderbird extension? 21:04:47 <MrsB> it's the thing that signs/encrypts emails 21:04:48 <leuhmanu> yep 21:04:54 <Luigi12> is it its own package? 21:05:18 <leuhmanu> :src thunderbird-enigmail 21:05:19 <Sophie> leuhmanu: thunderbird-17.0-1.mga3.src.rpm // core-release (Mga, cauldron, i586) 21:05:23 <MrsB> it's own rpm, not sure srpm 21:05:26 <leuhmanu> :src thunderbird-enigmail -v2 21:05:26 <Sophie> leuhmanu: thunderbird-10.0.11-1.mga2.src.rpm // core-updates_testing (Mga, 2, i586) 21:05:27 <Sophie> leuhmanu: thunderbird-10.0.10-1.mga2.src.rpm // core-updates (Mga, 2, i586) 21:05:27 <Sophie> leuhmanu: thunderbird-10.0.9-1.mga2.src.rpm // core-updates (Mga, 2, i586) 21:05:27 <Sophie> leuhmanu: All results available here: http://sophie.zarb.org/chat/adM2a9C2 21:05:32 <Luigi12> ahh, bummer 21:05:35 <Luigi12> well that doesn't make sense 21:05:49 <Luigi12> why would it ship something with it and then say it's too old? 21:05:56 <Luigi12> unless it's a different source file 21:06:48 <DavidWHodgins> The srpm for thunderbird-enigmail is thunderbird-10.0.11-1.mga2.src.rpm 21:07:21 <Luigi12> enigmail is a different source file 21:07:34 <Luigi12> we have version 1.4 right now 21:07:39 <Luigi12> what version does it want to download? 21:08:06 <MrsB> not sure, I told it not to 21:08:08 <leuhmanu> http://www.enigmail.net/support/esr.php 21:08:09 <[mbot> [ Enigmail: Enigmail and Thunderbird ESR ] 21:08:51 <Luigi12> which says 1.4 is the current version for ESR 21:09:15 <leuhmanu> yep it seems ok 21:09:29 <DavidWHodgins> Claire, is it possible you have an older version in ~/.thunderbird? 21:09:54 <MrsB> I can't see how :\ 21:10:06 <MrsB> I'll try on here after the meeting 21:10:14 <Luigi12> I have to go soon 21:10:18 <Luigi12> any other questions for me? 21:10:23 <DavidWHodgins> Not here. 21:10:24 <Kernewes> no 21:10:37 <MrsB> No, thanks Luigi12 enjoy the rest of your day :) 21:10:44 <Luigi12> thanks, you too, see ya 21:10:49 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else? 21:10:50 <MrsB> o/ 21:10:58 <MrsB> Is there anything else? 21:11:07 <Kernewes> no 21:11:29 <Latte> not here 21:11:36 <DavidWHodgins> Not here. Is there anyone here for their first qa meeting? 21:12:07 <DavidWHodgins> I guess it's time to close the meeting then. 21:12:12 <MrsB> let's close then 21:12:18 <MrsB> Thanks for coming everybody :) 21:12:22 <MrsB> same time next week! 21:12:25 <Kernewes> thank you MrsB 21:12:26 <MrsB> #endmeeting