19:03:48 <MrsB> #startmeeting
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19:04:08 * rindolf is here.
19:04:12 <MrsB> So, hi all, welcome to another meeting :)
19:04:18 <rindolf> Hi.
19:04:21 <MrsB> hi
19:04:32 <Led43_Mag1> hi all
19:04:36 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins
19:04:36 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB
19:04:51 <MrsB> are you ready Dave?
19:05:07 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new?
19:05:14 <MrsB> thanks :)
19:05:24 <MrsB> Is there anybody new?
19:05:36 <MrsB> N9NU: here?
19:06:14 <MrsB> I guess not
19:06:16 <Edux_099> hi
19:06:24 <MrsB> hi ed
19:06:27 <Edux_099> lol
19:06:34 <MrsB> you're not new :P
19:06:40 <N9NU> yes
19:06:49 <MrsB> Hi N9NU
19:06:55 <N9NU> hello!
19:07:07 <MrsB> welcome to the QA team, this is your official welcome :)
19:07:26 <N9NU> why thank you MrsB :)
19:07:56 <MrsB> I'm claire from the UK and team leader at the moment (until they get fed up of me!)
19:08:17 <DavidWHodgins> Lol.  I'm Dave from London, Ontario, Canada.
19:08:36 <MrsB> give yourself a quick introduction and the others will do the same :)
19:08:37 <rindolf> I'm Shlomi from Tel Aviv, Israel. My person web-site is at http://www.shlomifish.org/ .
19:08:38 <[mbot> [ Shlomi Fish’s Homepage ]
19:08:58 <Latte> I'm Marc from Cologne, Germany
19:09:13 <alfred__> this is Alfred from Germany too
19:09:16 <N9NU> I am Tim from the windy city, Chicago, IL
19:09:19 <swecarp> im m�en from sweden
19:09:28 <Edux_099> I'm Eduard from Buenos Aires, Argentina, but I am russian.
19:10:00 <Led43_Mag1> I'm john from the black country UK
19:10:05 <MrsB> so now we all know who we are :)
19:10:19 <MrsB> how have you been getting on so far N9NU?
19:10:43 <N9NU> very well thank you. i think i a handle on the procedures now
19:11:21 <MrsB> if you need help to get started, I'd be glad to spend some time with you and give a little mentoring
19:11:35 <N9NU> sure...sounds good to me....
19:12:02 <MrsB> If we cross timezones and I'm never there when you are then DavidWHodgins is a good person to ask
19:12:20 * N9NU makes note of that
19:13:01 <MrsB> so welcome to the team and as always if there is anything whatsoever you are not sure of or need guidance with please don't hesitate to ask
19:13:21 <N9NU> i will do. tnx
19:13:35 <MrsB> ok, lets move on then
19:13:36 <DavidWHodgins> #topic ISO Testing (are we there yet?)
19:13:50 <MrsB> Did you all see there are new ISOs today?
19:14:09 <DavidWHodgins> Just finished testing the dual cd, both 32 and 64 bit installs.  The mcc and midori bugs are fixed.
19:14:15 <alfred__> yes, just testing the latest live dvd
19:14:21 <MrsB> \o/
19:14:23 <DavidWHodgins> I've synced todays live iso images, but haven't tested them yet.
19:14:28 <MrsB> we must be nearly there now?
19:14:47 <DavidWHodgins> Very close I think.  Just need a few more hours to retest everything.
19:14:49 <Led43_Mag1> DavidWHodgins: i found the midori bug still there
19:15:02 <Led43_Mag1> in the dual
19:15:02 <MrsB> can we all make use of the pad please so we know who is doing what and can make sure everything has now been tested
19:15:09 <Edux_099> my virtual box was broken after installing guest additions
19:15:14 <Edux_099> (install)
19:15:26 <DavidWHodgins> Led43_Mag1: With 91c7f79ce588fca37b1c965020473c2e  Mageia-3-alpha2-dual-CD.iso ?
19:16:09 <DavidWHodgins> Led43_Mag1: That's the md5 of the latest dual.
19:16:10 <Led43_Mag1> DavidWHodgins: yep
19:16:12 <MrsB> Edux_099: how did you install guest additions?
19:16:33 <Edux_099> hmmm, with the iso
19:16:44 <DavidWHodgins> Edux_099: Which iso?
19:16:47 <MrsB> which ISO was it?
19:16:51 <Led43_Mag1> DavidWHodgins: on my 32bit qa box, wil test it on the 64bit box later or in morning
19:16:53 <Edux_099> special one
19:17:15 <Edux_099> in virtual box there is an option
19:17:23 <DavidWHodgins> Led43_Mag1: I just finished both 32 and 64 bit installs under vb, and midori worked on both.
19:17:47 <Led43_Mag1> this was on real iron
19:17:59 <MrsB> ahh so it downloaded from the website?
19:18:55 <Edux_099> I think yes
19:19:17 <Led43_Mag1> DavidWHodgins: it got as far as almost loading the mag home page before dying
19:19:20 <Edux_099> VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.18.iso 49.7MB
19:19:24 <DavidWHodgins> Edux_099: The installer should detect that it's running under vb and install the vboxadditions-kernel module automatically.
19:19:40 <Edux_099> it didn't
19:19:51 <MrsB> which ISO were you testing?
19:19:57 <DavidWHodgins> Led43_Mag1: I wonder if it's some sort of networking problem then?
19:20:00 <Edux_099> DVD x86_64 Gnome
19:20:08 <MrsB> it maybe did if the ones from the website corrupted it
19:20:23 <MrsB> LiveDVD or Classic DVD?
19:20:28 <Edux_099> classic
19:20:46 <MrsB> That's something we need to check then
19:20:46 <tmb> well, vbox drivers in cauldron are 4.2.0, so it get problematic...
19:20:48 <Led43_Mag1> DavidWHodgins: i ran it from a cli and it was moaning about missing bits again
19:21:20 <MrsB> tmb ?
19:21:48 <Latte> I had no problems with the classic DVD x86_64 in VB
19:21:57 <N9NU> i have not found anything that prevents the 64 bit dvd iso from installing via a default install (KDE) and custom install....only the Amarok library seg-fault issue
19:22:24 <Edux_099> me too, but I needed it for gnome 3
19:22:26 <alfred__> seriouspb here with recognition of HD on my older MSI nobo
19:22:29 <Led43_Mag1> i did a vbox install of Mageia-3-alpha2-dual-CD.iso NP
19:22:32 <tmb> MrsB: there are prebuilt vbox drivers in cauldron, wich might get installed, so if you install an older ones too I assume they will conflict...
19:23:22 <Edux_099> (that was for latte)
19:23:26 <MrsB> tmb so installing vbox additions other than what should already be installed when installing into vbox is likely to cause problems? Is that correct?
19:23:37 <DavidWHodgins> I guess it depends on which version of virtualbox the host is running, as to whether or not the guest will have problems.
19:24:12 <Led43_Mag1> oh i did not install its guest addons
19:24:21 <MrsB> we should check it is installing them when installed into vbox i guess too
19:24:35 <Edux_099> the iso is for version 4.1.18 and I have the same version for the host
19:24:36 <tmb> DavidWHodgins: that's how it should work, but I'm not sure it always does...
19:25:10 <N9NU> There is a issue with the Systemsettings---Login Screen---KDM Theme selection page when trying to download/add new themes. Problem: None of the new themes you download show up in the list...this is been going on for a few years now. The solution: A simple chmod x+o command to edit the folder permissions solves the problem....this applies to any version of the A3 release
19:25:22 <tmb> and live* have the prebuilt
19:25:28 <Edux_099> I had warning messages but... you know lol
19:25:36 <tmb> and live* have the prebuilt vboxadditions installed...
19:25:43 <MrsB> N9NU: have you made a bug for that?
19:26:18 <N9NU> i submitted it to bugs.kde.org...i guess its welll know, but they dont/didnt do anything abt it
19:26:29 <N9NU> have not submitted it to Mageia bugs
19:26:52 <MrsB> N9NU: Could you create a bug on our bugzilla too please against cauldron and add 3alpha2 into the whiteboard
19:27:04 <DavidWHodgins> N9NU: Submit it to Mageia, with a link to the kde report.  Could be fixed by a Mageia patch till upstream fixes it.
19:27:34 <N9NU> sure thing....one just needs to chmod x+o to the folder /usr/apps/kdm/themes/ folder
19:27:43 <Edux_099> I could repeat the situation, install the iso(classic dvd) again and reporting the message.
19:27:51 <Edux_099> *report
19:27:53 <MrsB> that sounds like a packaging issue
19:29:16 <MrsB> #info could we all please have a final push to test the new ISOs from today so we can hopefully get them released.
19:29:24 <Edux_099> ok
19:29:42 <MrsB> #info please make good use of the pad so we know what is being tested and what still hasn't been
19:29:52 <DavidWHodgins> For the iso testing of an alpha, I think all we need to validate is that a default install gets a working system.  While it's nice to catch other bugs sooner rather then later, they can wait till after alpha 2 is released.
19:30:18 <MrsB> yes, but all bugs should be reported please
19:30:56 <MrsB> small bugs obviously won't delay the release at alpha stage
19:31:11 <MrsB> if you find any major ones then please let tmb or ennael know
19:31:32 * MrsB grumbles about intel laptops
19:32:19 <MrsB> are there any comments or questions about this?
19:32:39 <DavidWHodgins> After the meeting, I'll be retesting all iso images on real hardware.  Shouldn't take more than a few hours on this system, but I'll be offline from the pad and irc during that time.
19:33:09 <MrsB> thanks Dave
19:33:30 <N9NU> will re-test the 64 bit DVD as well...with the new release
19:33:46 <MrsB> let's move on then.
19:33:48 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup
19:34:03 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping?
19:34:29 <DavidWHodgins> inn should be interesting to test. :-)
19:34:39 <MrsB> yes, right up your street that one
19:35:01 <DavidWHodgins> Never used it before, but I have a pretty good idea what's involved.
19:35:08 <Edux_099> oh, I forgot, blender 2.64 was released
19:35:29 <N9NU> Firefox 16 as well ;)
19:35:48 <rindolf> And valgrind-3.8.1.
19:35:50 <MrsB> lots of stuff is released, it'll get updated in cauldron
19:35:53 <DavidWHodgins> We have a pile of security bugs to validate again.
19:35:57 <MrsB> yep
19:36:15 <MrsB> Luigi12_ has been busy making a list for us again :D
19:36:26 <Latte> N9NU: Firefox 10.0.8 is the Firefox 16
19:36:30 <MrsB> no wonder he's hiding ;)
19:36:33 <N9NU> heh
19:36:40 <DavidWHodgins> Firefox 16 got pulled, shortly after release.  I don't know if our version has the new bug or not.
19:36:51 <N9NU> it did?
19:36:59 <DavidWHodgins> Yep
19:37:02 <Edux_099> I think you know firefox 16 has a security bug.
19:37:05 <MrsB> there was discussion on the dev ML about it
19:37:13 <Latte> DavidWHodgins: I saw that this morning
19:37:22 <Edux_099> ops, sorry Dave.
19:37:29 <MrsB> it was even on the bbc website
19:37:33 <N9NU> woops. i guess i still have that version installed...according to the About screen
19:38:12 <MrsB> I think we're going to have to skip the roundup.
19:38:26 <DavidWHodgins> http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html#firefox16
19:38:27 <[mbot> [ Security Advisories for Firefox ]
19:38:50 <MrsB> As soon as we get the alpha out of the door we'll need to have another push on security updates by the looks of things
19:39:06 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
19:39:20 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
19:40:07 <DavidWHodgins> Just a quick reminder.  To test 32 bit dual on 64 bit hardware, hold down the shift key, while booting, then type in 32, press enter twice, and then proceed as normal.
19:40:08 <Latte> I looked at most of the security updates but nearly all of them I have no clue how to check them
19:40:29 <MrsB> I added some procedures for 2 or 3 of them
19:40:50 <Edux_099> Latte: me too lol
19:41:03 <Latte> MrsB: I saw it
19:41:12 <Latte> and I will check
19:41:27 <MrsB> freeradius and openasf I think basic testing only, just testing the commands seem to work ok. They look quite complex to set up properly to test fully.
19:41:35 <tmb> the firefox-16 bug does not affect 10.0.8 ESR... and firefox 16.0.1 is being released upstream as we speak...
19:41:41 <DavidWHodgins> From my look at what's on the list, there are quite a few that are high priority, in terms of possible impact.
19:41:47 <MrsB> openafs even
19:41:59 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Thanks for the update.
19:42:06 <MrsB> thanks tmb
19:42:24 <MrsB> #info Firefox 16 bug does not affect FF 10.0.8 ESR in Mga2
19:42:41 <DavidWHodgins> I've tested openafs before, so should have the procedure in the closed bug report.
19:43:22 <MrsB> #info DavidWHodgins tested openafs last time so there may be a procedure in the old bug report, just click the bugzilla link on the madb page
19:44:17 <MrsB> So can we prioritise the ISO testing please and lets get it released, then straight away we need to have a push on security updates as they are starting to build up.
19:44:44 <rindolf> MrsB: OK.
19:44:50 <MrsB> If there is nothing else let's close?
19:44:57 <DavidWHodgins> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1034
19:44:59 <[mbot> Bug 1034: critical, High, qa-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, validated_update, libafs module installation failed after update, libafs-1.4.14-1.mga1
19:45:05 <MrsB> ok for everybody?
19:45:10 <rindolf> OK for me.
19:45:16 <DavidWHodgins> Go ahead.
19:45:17 <N9NU> yup
19:45:20 <alfred__> ok
19:45:24 <Latte> ok
19:45:26 * DavidWHodgins forgets the close command. :_)
19:45:28 <swecarp> ok
19:45:50 <MrsB> Thankyou all for coming. A short one \o/. Welcome to the QA team N9NU. Same time next week!
19:45:58 <MrsB> #endmeeting