19:04:36 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 19:04:36 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Apr 5 19:04:36 2012 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:04:36 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:05:25 <DavidWHodgins> #topic 1 > 2 upgrade follow-up 19:06:03 <DavidWHodgins> I put the calling for extra testers on hold due to https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168 19:06:04 <Magbot> Bug 5168: normal, Normal, ---, thierry.vignaud, RESOLVED FIXED, mgaapplet --testing failing with undefined symbol _XGetRequest, gtk+-2.0 19:06:20 <DavidWHodgins> That bug was marked resolved a few minutes ago. 19:06:53 <DavidWHodgins> After the meeting, I'll retest, and if it goes well, then I'll send the message to mageia general mailing list. 19:07:53 <DavidWHodgins> The bug about kms boot without firmware is supposed to have been fixed today as well, which will make things a lot simpler. 19:09:54 <DavidWHodgins> The only major bug I know of that is still outstanding, that will affect upgrades is https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4562 19:09:56 <Magbot> Bug 4562: critical, release_blocker, ---, mageia, ASSIGNED, dracut uses udevadm info to detect LVM+RAID+BTRFS, dracut 19:13:04 <DavidWHodgins> If /usr is on lvm or raid, booting will fail using the initrd generated on install, requiring a workaround. 19:13:48 <coincoin> hi QA, sorry to be late... 19:14:16 <DavidWHodgins> No problem. 19:14:26 <coincoin> everybody there? :) 19:14:36 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: thanks :) 19:15:13 * Led43_mag2 is lurking 19:15:44 <Inigo_Montoya`> coincoin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 19:15:51 <coincoin> oops 19:15:58 <DavidWHodgins> Lol 19:16:02 <coincoin> great so, I'm looking :� 19:19:29 <DavidWHodgins> The topic has been set to "1 > 2 upgrade follow-up", and I've been going over the bugs affecting upgrade. 19:19:48 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: ok, who is there? you and me or more ppl? 19:20:55 <DavidWHodgins> Led43_mag2 and Luigi12_lappy, and me. 19:20:58 * Led43_mag2 is here 19:21:56 <DavidWHodgins> Bug 5168 was the reason I put sending a message calling for more qa testers of upgrade on hold 19:21:57 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168 normal, Normal, ---, thierry.vignaud, RESOLVED FIXED, mgaapplet --testing failing with undefined symbol _XGetRequest, gtk+-2.0 19:22:38 <DavidWHodgins> It was marked resolved a little while ago. After the meeting, I'll retest, and if it's working, then send out the mssage to the general mailing list. 19:24:21 <DavidWHodgins> Bug 4562 will require a workaround for anyone who has /usr on lvm, using rd.break=pre-pivot to activate the lvm, on first boot, and then run dracut to get hostonly initrd. 19:24:22 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4562 critical, release_blocker, ---, mageia, ASSIGNED, dracut uses udevadm info to detect LVM+RAID+BTRFS, dracut 19:25:01 <coincoin> ok, so can I have #chair too please? 19:25:20 * ennael gives a chair to coincoin so that he can sleep 19:25:30 <DavidWHodgins> Lol 19:25:40 <ennael> oups 19:25:40 <coincoin> hey! what happens in my life stay in my life :p 19:25:57 <ennael> hi QA :) 19:26:00 * coincoin drunk water 19:27:32 <DavidWHodgins> As far as I know, 4562 is the only major bug outstanding for upgrade, and it only affects people with /usr on lvm/raid. 19:30:56 <DavidWHodgins> Just remembered. There is another bug for us ide users requiring a kernel option to load pata drivers instead of ide drivers, or cd/dvd is inaccessible, and drives get hda instead of sda. 19:31:47 <DavidWHodgins> 4997 19:31:52 <DavidWHodgins> bug 4997 19:31:53 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4997 critical, High, ---, bugsquad, NEW, Problem with the DVD player / recorder,it is always still inaccessible., dracut ? 19:32:26 <DavidWHodgins> I'll mention both bugs and there workarounds in the message asking for more testers. 19:32:39 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone know of any others that should be mentioned? 19:42:23 <coincoin> no bug for me to mention, all my importants bugs are set to releace critical 19:42:42 <Luigi12_lappy> upgrades are working pretty well according to my tests last week, and tv fixed the only kinda nasty one I found today 19:42:50 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: what kind of 1 > 2 upgrade did you test? systemd, KDE, GNOME, other? 19:43:14 <coincoin> same for me, for know (GNOME and systemd, upgrade are working quite fine) 19:43:16 <Luigi12_lappy> I'll probably do another upgrade test in the morning, but it should be OK for people to test 19:43:22 <coincoin> bugs has been fixed 19:43:32 <coincoin> Luigi12_lappy: do you use KDE? 19:43:35 <DavidWHodgins> I've tested Gnome, kde, and lxdm with systemd, and switching to sysvinit on all three. 19:43:41 <Luigi12_lappy> yep, IceWM appears back to normal and KDE just has minor issues now 19:43:44 <Luigi12_lappy> coincoin: yep 19:45:20 <DavidWHodgins> For the DM, I tested kdm with kde, gdm with gnome, and lxdm for lxde. Haven't done much yet with mixing them though. 19:46:34 <DavidWHodgins> I do have an open bug for my webcam not working, but don't consider that to be a blocker for upgrade,, as it only affects a few people. 19:46:52 <coincoin> Luigi12_lappy: great, can you report your bugs to dmorgan please or remaks? he is looking for ppl doing upgrade 1 > 2 with KDE 19:47:16 <coincoin> all: please follow the wiki procedure to have full logs of your upgrades 19:47:17 <Luigi12_lappy> who is remaks? Can I find the name in bugzilla? 19:49:54 <coincoin> dmorgan is the ppl, remarks is the english word :) 19:50:05 <Luigi12_lappy> oh ok, will do then :o) 19:50:44 <coincoin> great, thanks 19:51:08 <coincoin> you can ping him on IRC too if needed to see if he is waintig for special tests 19:53:45 <Luigi12_lappy> I have to leave soon. Does anyone need anything from me (especially pertaining to next meeting topic, "QA updates follow-up")? 19:54:19 <DavidWHodgins> We need some 64 bit testers to keep on top of the CVE testing. 19:54:50 <Luigi12_lappy> yeah I hope another 64 bit tester can be found 19:55:00 <Luigi12_lappy> I saw a new guy test one package this week 19:56:32 <Luigi12_lappy> maybe when doing a call for 1 > 2 testing help, you can call for x86_64 security updates testing help too 19:57:04 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Will do. I'll ask people to consider joining the qa team. 19:57:49 <Luigi12_lappy> that'd be great. thanks, and thanks for all of your work. I gotta run (literally) 19:58:27 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks to you to Luigi12_Lappy. 19:59:05 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else about the upgrade? 19:59:16 <coincoin> for my part, I always do test in both 32 & 64-bit 20:00:07 <coincoin> not for me, just: please open a bug report for EACH issue! even if it seems a small bug or if ppl said on IRC: 'I will fix it' 20:00:54 <DavidWHodgins> Bugzilla is where I do most of my work (Triage and qa). I'm rarely on irc. 20:01:41 <leuhmanu> DavidWHodgins: and thanks for your presence on the bugzilla :) 20:02:13 <coincoin> +1 20:02:22 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks! 20:02:24 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: my remarks was for everybody, not you ) 20:02:26 <coincoin> ;) 20:05:28 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: next topic so, please? :) 20:05:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic QA updates follow-up 20:06:43 <DavidWHodgins> We have quite a few security updates, outstanding, most of which only need 64 bit testing b4 validating. 20:08:30 <DavidWHodgins> For example, bug 5203. 20:08:32 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5203 normal, Normal, ---, qa-bugs, NEW, mutt new security issue CVE-2011-1429, mutt-1.5.21-3.2.mga1.src.rpm 20:08:45 <coincoin> yep and I know... wordpress... O:-) 20:12:04 <DavidWHodgins> bug 4065 was reassigned back to the developer. 20:12:05 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4065 normal, Normal, ---, mageia, ASSIGNED, missing security updates: wordpress (CVE-2011-3130 CVE-2011-3129 CVE-2011-3128 CVE-2011-3127 CVE-2011-3126 CVE-2011-3125 CVE-2011-3122 CVE-2012-0287 ), wordpress-3.3.1-1.1.mga1 20:14:47 <DavidWHodgins> I've just sent a ping on that one, as a reminder. 20:16:47 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: it's me, that's why I said... ;) 20:17:23 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Sorry, Always have trouble remembering which nicks go with which email names. 20:18:34 <DavidWHodgins> I also have a bad habit of replying to bugzilla messages, just based on the content, without checking who it's from. Have to work on that more. :-) 20:19:37 <coincoin> :) 20:20:07 <DavidWHodgins> As I see it, while concentrating on the upgrade testing, we've fallen behind on the security update testing and need to refocous on that till beta 3 is avilable. 20:20:35 <DavidWHodgins> s /refocous/refocus/ 20:20:56 <coincoin> yep, would be good if you have time 20:21:10 <leuhmanu> or kill Luidi :) 20:23:14 <DavidWHodgins> As discussed before, I'll put out an invitation for more people to join the qa team. 20:24:07 <Led43_mag2> i will keep an eye out in the mag irc channels for new comers to 20:24:36 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else about Mageia 1 updates? 20:25:27 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: where will you put it? 20:26:47 <DavidWHodgins> In the general mailing list, the usenet newsgroup, and probably in the forum, although I'll have to figure out where there, as I rarely use forums. 20:27:13 <coincoin> ok, I hope it will work better than in the past... 20:28:04 <DavidWHodgins> Now that Mageia 2 is getting closer, they'll have something more interesting, if the get involved, so that should help. 20:28:21 <DavidWHodgins> s /if the/if they/ 20:28:52 <coincoin> we said the same thing when Mageia 1 was coming ;) 20:29:08 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:29:40 <coincoin> it's hard to attract ppl to QA Team but we need ppl, so let's go to spread QA to the world! 20:29:57 <DavidWHodgins> Shall we move on to the next topic then? 20:31:10 <Led43_mag2> yes lets move on 20:31:18 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 2 bugs 20:32:27 <DavidWHodgins> Time to add another hard drive. When Mageia 2 does get released, qa members need to have both Magia 1 and 2 installations they can use for qa testing. 20:32:39 <DavidWHodgins> Our workload is going to double. 20:33:15 <Led43_mag2> or extra drive space for vm's 20:33:20 <coincoin> no need to have 2 HDD, 1 and 2 can fit on one disk or use VM 20:33:35 <DavidWHodgins> Also keep in mind, that for some bugs, will require sysvinit installs too. 20:33:58 <DavidWHodgins> I can't run Mageia 2 in vm due to the udev timeout issue. 20:34:21 <coincoin> yes, but "for now" ;) 20:36:30 <DavidWHodgins> I'm currently using two installs for Mageia 1. One with updates testing enabled as an update repository, and one without updates testing, with a full image backup that I restore as needed for testing. 20:38:45 <coincoin> same for my but all in VMs with snapshot in fact 20:38:54 <DavidWHodgins> So people on the qa team need to ensure they have enough disk space for the extra installs, and procedures setup for backup/restore of the extra installations. 20:46:33 <DavidWHodgins> I think we can summarize the meeting as I will confirm bug 5168 has been fixed and then send out the invitation for upgrade testers, and that the qa team will focus on Mageia 1 security updates until the beta 3 iso images are available. 20:46:34 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168 normal, Normal, ---, thierry.vignaud, RESOLVED FIXED, mgaapplet --testing failing with undefined symbol _XGetRequest, gtk+-2.0 20:48:06 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else? 20:50:17 <coincoin> nop 20:50:27 <coincoin> QA is dead tonight? 20:50:53 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. I'll close the meeting then. I have to reboot to test 5168. 20:51:14 <Led43_mag2> ok 20:51:20 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting