19:04:36 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting
19:04:36 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Apr  5 19:04:36 2012 UTC.  The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:05:25 <DavidWHodgins> #topic 1 > 2 upgrade follow-up
19:06:03 <DavidWHodgins> I put the calling for extra testers on hold due to https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168
19:06:04 <Magbot> Bug 5168: normal, Normal, ---, thierry.vignaud, RESOLVED FIXED, mgaapplet --testing failing with undefined symbol _XGetRequest, gtk+-2.0
19:06:20 <DavidWHodgins> That bug was marked resolved a few minutes ago.
19:06:53 <DavidWHodgins> After the meeting, I'll retest, and if it goes well, then I'll send the message to mageia general mailing list.
19:07:53 <DavidWHodgins> The bug about kms boot without firmware is supposed to have been fixed today as well, which will make things a lot simpler.
19:09:54 <DavidWHodgins> The only major bug I know of that is still outstanding, that will affect upgrades is https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4562
19:09:56 <Magbot> Bug 4562: critical, release_blocker, ---, mageia, ASSIGNED, dracut uses udevadm info to detect LVM+RAID+BTRFS, dracut
19:13:04 <DavidWHodgins> If /usr is on lvm or raid, booting will fail using the initrd generated on install, requiring a workaround.
19:13:48 <coincoin> hi QA, sorry to be late...
19:14:16 <DavidWHodgins> No problem.
19:14:26 <coincoin> everybody there? :)
19:14:36 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: thanks :)
19:15:13 * Led43_mag2 is lurking
19:15:44 <Inigo_Montoya`> coincoin: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
19:15:51 <coincoin> oops
19:15:58 <DavidWHodgins> Lol
19:16:02 <coincoin> great so, I'm looking :�
19:19:29 <DavidWHodgins> The topic has been set to "1 > 2 upgrade follow-up", and I've been going over the bugs affecting upgrade.
19:19:48 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: ok, who is there? you and me or more ppl?
19:20:55 <DavidWHodgins> Led43_mag2 and Luigi12_lappy, and me.
19:20:58 * Led43_mag2 is here
19:21:56 <DavidWHodgins> Bug 5168 was the reason I put sending a message calling for more qa testers of upgrade on hold
19:21:57 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168 normal, Normal, ---, thierry.vignaud, RESOLVED FIXED, mgaapplet --testing failing with undefined symbol _XGetRequest, gtk+-2.0
19:22:38 <DavidWHodgins> It was marked resolved a little while ago.  After the meeting, I'll retest, and if it's working, then send out the mssage to the general mailing list.
19:24:21 <DavidWHodgins> Bug 4562 will require a workaround for anyone who has /usr on lvm, using rd.break=pre-pivot to activate the lvm, on first boot, and then run dracut to get hostonly initrd.
19:24:22 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4562 critical, release_blocker, ---, mageia, ASSIGNED, dracut uses udevadm info to detect LVM+RAID+BTRFS, dracut
19:25:01 <coincoin> ok, so can I have #chair too please?
19:25:20 * ennael gives a chair to coincoin so that he can sleep
19:25:30 <DavidWHodgins> Lol
19:25:40 <ennael> oups
19:25:40 <coincoin> hey! what happens in my life stay in my life :p
19:25:57 <ennael> hi QA :)
19:26:00 * coincoin drunk water
19:27:32 <DavidWHodgins> As far as I know, 4562 is the only major bug outstanding for upgrade, and it only affects people with /usr on lvm/raid.
19:30:56 <DavidWHodgins> Just remembered.  There is another bug for us ide users requiring a kernel option to load pata drivers instead of ide drivers, or cd/dvd is inaccessible, and drives get hda instead of sda.
19:31:47 <DavidWHodgins> 4997
19:31:52 <DavidWHodgins> bug 4997
19:31:53 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4997 critical, High, ---, bugsquad, NEW, Problem with the DVD player / recorder,it is always still inaccessible., dracut ?
19:32:26 <DavidWHodgins> I'll mention both bugs and there workarounds in the message asking for more testers.
19:32:39 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone know of any others that should be mentioned?
19:42:23 <coincoin> no bug for me to mention, all my importants bugs are set to releace critical
19:42:42 <Luigi12_lappy> upgrades are working pretty well according to my tests last week, and tv fixed the only kinda nasty one I found today
19:42:50 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: what kind of 1 > 2 upgrade did you test? systemd, KDE, GNOME, other?
19:43:14 <coincoin> same for me, for know (GNOME and systemd, upgrade are working quite fine)
19:43:16 <Luigi12_lappy> I'll probably do another upgrade test in the morning, but it should be OK for people to test
19:43:22 <coincoin> bugs has been fixed
19:43:32 <coincoin> Luigi12_lappy: do you use KDE?
19:43:35 <DavidWHodgins> I've tested Gnome, kde, and lxdm with systemd, and switching to sysvinit on all three.
19:43:41 <Luigi12_lappy> yep, IceWM appears back to normal and KDE just has minor issues now
19:43:44 <Luigi12_lappy> coincoin: yep
19:45:20 <DavidWHodgins> For the DM, I tested kdm with kde, gdm with gnome, and lxdm for lxde.  Haven't done much yet with mixing them though.
19:46:34 <DavidWHodgins> I do have an open bug for my webcam not working, but don't consider that to be a blocker for upgrade,, as it only affects a few people.
19:46:52 <coincoin> Luigi12_lappy: great, can you report your bugs to dmorgan please or remaks? he is looking for ppl doing upgrade 1 > 2 with KDE
19:47:16 <coincoin> all: please follow the wiki procedure to have full logs of your upgrades
19:47:17 <Luigi12_lappy> who is remaks?  Can I find the name in bugzilla?
19:49:54 <coincoin> dmorgan is the ppl, remarks is the english word :)
19:50:05 <Luigi12_lappy> oh ok, will do then :o)
19:50:44 <coincoin> great, thanks
19:51:08 <coincoin> you can ping him on IRC too if needed to see if he is waintig for special tests
19:53:45 <Luigi12_lappy> I have to leave soon.  Does anyone need anything from me (especially pertaining to next meeting topic, "QA updates follow-up")?
19:54:19 <DavidWHodgins> We need some 64 bit testers to keep on top of the CVE testing.
19:54:50 <Luigi12_lappy> yeah I hope another 64 bit tester can be found
19:55:00 <Luigi12_lappy> I saw a new guy test one package this week
19:56:32 <Luigi12_lappy> maybe when doing a call for 1 > 2 testing help, you can call for x86_64 security updates testing help too
19:57:04 <DavidWHodgins> Ok.  Will do.  I'll ask people to consider joining the qa team.
19:57:49 <Luigi12_lappy> that'd be great.  thanks, and thanks for all of your work.  I gotta run (literally)
19:58:27 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks to you to Luigi12_Lappy.
19:59:05 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else about the upgrade?
19:59:16 <coincoin> for my part, I always do test in both 32 & 64-bit
20:00:07 <coincoin> not for me, just: please open a bug report for EACH issue! even if it seems a small bug or if ppl said on IRC: 'I will fix it'
20:00:54 <DavidWHodgins> Bugzilla is where I do most of my work (Triage and qa).  I'm rarely on irc.
20:01:41 <leuhmanu> DavidWHodgins: and thanks for your presence on the bugzilla :)
20:02:13 <coincoin> +1
20:02:22 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks!
20:02:24 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: my remarks was for everybody, not you )
20:02:26 <coincoin> ;)
20:05:28 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: next topic so, please? :)
20:05:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic QA updates follow-up
20:06:43 <DavidWHodgins> We have quite a few security updates, outstanding, most of which only need 64 bit testing b4 validating.
20:08:30 <DavidWHodgins> For example, bug 5203.
20:08:32 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5203 normal, Normal, ---, qa-bugs, NEW, mutt new security issue CVE-2011-1429, mutt-1.5.21-3.2.mga1.src.rpm
20:08:45 <coincoin> yep and I know... wordpress... O:-)
20:12:04 <DavidWHodgins> bug 4065 was reassigned back to the developer.
20:12:05 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4065 normal, Normal, ---, mageia, ASSIGNED, missing security updates: wordpress (CVE-2011-3130 CVE-2011-3129 CVE-2011-3128 CVE-2011-3127 CVE-2011-3126 CVE-2011-3125 CVE-2011-3122 CVE-2012-0287 ), wordpress-3.3.1-1.1.mga1
20:14:47 <DavidWHodgins> I've just sent a ping on that one, as a reminder.
20:16:47 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: it's me, that's why I said... ;)
20:17:23 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Sorry, Always have trouble remembering which nicks go with which email names.
20:18:34 <DavidWHodgins> I also have a bad habit of replying to bugzilla messages, just based on the content, without checking who it's from. Have to work on that more. :-)
20:19:37 <coincoin> :)
20:20:07 <DavidWHodgins> As I see it, while concentrating on the upgrade testing, we've fallen behind on the security update testing and need to refocous on that till beta 3 is avilable.
20:20:35 <DavidWHodgins> s /refocous/refocus/
20:20:56 <coincoin> yep, would be good if you have time
20:21:10 <leuhmanu> or kill Luidi :)
20:23:14 <DavidWHodgins> As discussed before, I'll put out an invitation for more people to join the qa team.
20:24:07 <Led43_mag2> i will keep an eye out in the mag irc channels for new comers to
20:24:36 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else about Mageia 1 updates?
20:25:27 <coincoin> DavidWHodgins: where will you put it?
20:26:47 <DavidWHodgins> In the general mailing list, the usenet newsgroup, and probably in the forum, although I'll have to figure out where there, as I rarely use forums.
20:27:13 <coincoin> ok, I hope it will work better than in the past...
20:28:04 <DavidWHodgins> Now that Mageia 2 is getting closer, they'll have something more interesting, if the get involved, so that should help.
20:28:21 <DavidWHodgins> s /if the/if they/
20:28:52 <coincoin> we said the same thing when Mageia 1 was coming ;)
20:29:08 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:29:40 <coincoin> it's hard to attract ppl to QA Team but we need ppl, so let's go to spread QA to the world!
20:29:57 <DavidWHodgins> Shall we move on to the next topic then?
20:31:10 <Led43_mag2> yes lets move on
20:31:18 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 2 bugs
20:32:27 <DavidWHodgins> Time to add another hard drive.  When Mageia 2 does get released, qa members need to have both Magia 1 and 2 installations they can use for qa testing.
20:32:39 <DavidWHodgins> Our workload is going to double.
20:33:15 <Led43_mag2> or extra drive space for vm's
20:33:20 <coincoin> no need to have 2 HDD, 1 and 2 can fit on one disk or use VM
20:33:35 <DavidWHodgins> Also keep in mind, that for some bugs, will require sysvinit installs too.
20:33:58 <DavidWHodgins> I can't run Mageia 2 in vm due to the udev timeout issue.
20:34:21 <coincoin> yes, but "for now" ;)
20:36:30 <DavidWHodgins> I'm currently using two installs for Mageia 1.  One with updates testing enabled as an update repository, and one without updates testing, with a full image backup that I restore as needed for testing.
20:38:45 <coincoin> same for my but all in VMs with snapshot in fact
20:38:54 <DavidWHodgins> So people on the qa team need to ensure they have enough disk space for the extra installs, and procedures setup for backup/restore of the extra installations.
20:46:33 <DavidWHodgins> I think we can summarize the meeting as I will confirm bug 5168 has been fixed and then send out the invitation for upgrade testers, and that the qa team will focus on Mageia 1 security updates until the beta 3 iso images are available.
20:46:34 <Magbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168 normal, Normal, ---, thierry.vignaud, RESOLVED FIXED, mgaapplet --testing failing with undefined symbol _XGetRequest, gtk+-2.0
20:48:06 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else?
20:50:17 <coincoin> nop
20:50:27 <coincoin> QA is dead tonight?
20:50:53 <DavidWHodgins> Ok.  I'll close the meeting then.  I have to reboot to test 5168.
20:51:14 <Led43_mag2> ok
20:51:20 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting