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20:04:06 <DavidWHodgins> #chair ennael tmb
20:04:06 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins ennael tmb
20:04:22 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Board election
20:04:58 <neoclust> this will be a new start to have AG regularly, etc :-)
20:05:01 <DavidWHodgins> As stated in the invitation, due to the length of time since the last board election we'll be electing all board members
20:05:25 <DavidWHodgins> neoclust: Yes, we should stick to the constitution from now on
20:05:59 <DavidWHodgins> So we need at least 6 people on the board, max 12
20:06:04 <bruno> Are you doing "rapport moral" and financial one as well with quitus first ?
20:06:27 <DavidWHodgins> Ok
20:06:33 * bruno need to learn the english terms for a 1901 association ;-)
20:06:51 <maat> hi
20:06:52 <DavidWHodgins> #topic "rapport moral or state of Mageia"
20:07:28 <neoclust> ennael: can talk us quickly about financial state of mageia
20:07:33 <ennael> yep
20:07:39 <DavidWHodgins> Go ahead
20:07:50 <ennael> so we have nearly 35k € on bank account
20:08:48 <bruno> how much do we spend per year roughly ?
20:08:48 <ennael> checking last paypal account
20:09:04 <Jybz> (and BTC )
20:09:05 <schultz> Are there any needed expenditures/upgrades needed soon?
20:09:09 <ennael> and 3500€ on paypal that will be moved to bank account
20:09:21 <ennael> no expenses for a long time now
20:09:31 <ennael> I've heard about needs about hardware
20:09:39 <neoclust> schultz: yes we need to see with tmb but we will have investments to do
20:09:55 <leuhmanu> https://www.mageia.org/en/donate/ 30 BTC ?
20:09:56 <neoclust> harddrives but duvel will need a checkout and maybe a complete renew
20:09:56 <[mbot> [ Donate to Mageia ]
20:10:50 <lewyssmith> Who decides expenditure? The Board?
20:10:53 <tmb> yes, infra is getting aged, so it needs to be renewed... I'd say both duvel and sucuk shold be replaced...
20:10:53 <marja> can Mageia's bitcoins be sold, or directly used to buy hardware?
20:10:58 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: Council
20:11:20 <lewyssmith> Hmm
20:11:23 <ennael> marja: it's very hard to use directly bitcoins. Very few companies propose it
20:11:26 <Jybz> (do we still have the bitcoin wallet code ?)
20:11:37 <schultz> Ok, seems that we have the room for some upgrades, would be nice to cash the btc in while Musk is having fun with it
20:11:39 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: Oops. Sorry, my mistake. It is the board
20:11:47 <lewyssmith> Better!
20:12:07 <DavidWHodgins> Been a while since there has been any expenditure requests. :-)
20:12:23 <bruno> What you call the Council, is it what is the Bureau in a 1901 association ? (sorry for newbie questions)
20:12:32 <marja> ennael: and is it now possible in France for Mageia to sell them?
20:12:46 <ennael> bruno: nope rather distribution organisation
20:13:02 <ennael> bruno: ennael1@gmail.com
20:13:04 <ennael> oups
20:13:12 <ennael> bruno: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org
20:13:15 <neoclust> ennael: this is not meetic :)
20:13:20 <ennael> neoclust: shhhh
20:13:25 <neoclust> ennael: :)
20:13:35 <neoclust> bruno: board is composed of 12 people
20:13:46 <DavidWHodgins> 6 to 12 people
20:13:50 <neoclust> yes right :)
20:13:50 <Jybz> (is it possible to clean the bot log and remove the email address ?)
20:13:52 <neoclust> 6 to 12
20:13:57 <papoteur> bruno: no, council is not a Mageia association's instance association
20:14:26 <ennael> Jybz: I don't mind I don't use it anymore  :)
20:14:27 <DavidWHodgins> Jybz: Not that I'm aware of
20:14:47 <bruno> ok, reading ennael's link
20:14:52 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: we can cheat and remove from final html/txt pages
20:14:54 <neoclust> ;)
20:14:59 <Jybz> (not used anymore, but in your copy/past :D)
20:15:04 <neoclust> Jybz: we will do it later
20:15:13 <Jybz> thx neoclust
20:15:39 <bruno> from the reading: The Mageia Board is made from 3 up to 12 people
20:16:05 <DavidWHodgins> Article 8 of the constitution says 6 to 12
20:16:39 <neoclust> bruno: https://www.mageia.org/fr/about/constitution/
20:16:40 <[mbot> [ Statuts de l’association Mageia.Org ]
20:16:59 <bruno> Ok, so we should fix the wiki then ;-)
20:17:10 <neoclust> ok the wiki page is not correct, better use the  status
20:17:19 <tmb> yes, technically board can be 3 persons (minimal amount), but we decided to start with 6 minimum
20:17:33 <DavidWHodgins> I'm going by https://www.mageia.org/en/about/constitution/
20:17:34 <[mbot> [ Mageia.Org constitution ]
20:18:22 <neoclust> do we need to vote for the reports ?
20:18:27 <neoclust> financial reports
20:19:04 <Jybz> neoclust: voting for what ? Giving our agreement ?
20:19:12 <DavidWHodgins> We either approve them or ask for supporting documentaion.
20:19:12 <neoclust> yes
20:19:25 <lewyssmith> https://www.mageia.org/fr/about/constitution/
20:19:26 <[mbot> [ Statuts de l’association Mageia.Org ]
20:19:28 <lewyssmith> +
20:19:36 <lewyssmith> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org
20:20:02 <DavidWHodgins> The constitution states "It approves the financial report of the past year's accounts, votes on the budget of the next year's accounts, deliberates the questions on the agenda and if applicable, votes on the renewals in the board of director's memebers."
20:20:17 <bruno> In 1901 association you vote for the financial report *and* give credit (quitus) for the good management to the treasurer
20:20:24 <bruno> So vote twice
20:20:28 <lewyssmith> The two variants hardly help things
20:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> We've never actually had a budget for an upcoming year before, as far as I'm aware.
20:20:37 <bruno> Then you do the same for the moral report and the president quitus.
20:21:31 <DavidWHodgins> Rather then holding a formal vote, is everyone ok with an informal one where we just ask if anyone is voting against?
20:21:35 <Jybz> DavidWHodgins: never too late, we can vote it. tmb, can you give us an approximated price for the two new needed machine ? In order to votes a budget ?
20:22:03 <schultz> Also don't ever remember a budget, more that there was an awareness that hardware would need to be purchased soon and being aware of it
20:22:41 <bruno> Indeed I think it's great to have a majority of votes because that gives a complete credit to these actions
20:22:45 <papoteur> Jybz: I think this is not yet the topic.
20:22:46 <DavidWHodgins> In the past, as machines were bought/upgraded, the request was handled on the board mailing list. Never planned in advance
20:22:58 <maat> having a more formal budget could be an improvement
20:23:24 <neoclust> maat: for next one we will have a libreoffice presentation with the reports :-)
20:23:26 <tmb> well ballpark for 2 servers lands somewhere between 10-20.000 € depending on how much performance one wants
20:23:43 * bruno with LO 7.2 so ;-)
20:24:14 <bruno> Are we buying and hosting ourselves or using a hoster providing the HW ?
20:24:18 <maat> great ! :)
20:24:22 <Jybz> Uh ! I didn't expect so much
20:24:34 <neoclust> bruno: we are hosting
20:24:40 <neoclust> Jybz: at marseille
20:24:41 <DavidWHodgins> The thing I dislike about having a budget, is that it then encourages people to spend on things they don't really need, to use up whatever budget allocation they have
20:25:16 <DavidWHodgins> Jybz: For servers, that's not unreasonable
20:25:27 <tmb> yes, thats the "downside" of budgeting...
20:25:28 <lewyssmith> I think this detailed discussion abut forthcoming expenditure is premature; are we not here to elect a Board? Then council can decide what they want, the Board can agree it. Later.
20:25:34 <DavidWHodgins> For a desktop system that would be excessive, but not for a server
20:25:35 <bruno> well that would be true in an enterprise, because you loose that budget the year after, but not here. It's just a planning exercice, not a commitment to spend.
20:25:36 <schultz> Agree with David very much on that aspect of budgets, having it being less fixed and more something as needed would be better
20:25:51 <auroud_85> lewyssmith: You're right
20:26:27 <neoclust> lewyssmith: Yes
20:26:45 <tmb> yeah, so lets get back to MoSCoW  rules :)
20:26:46 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, so the only planned expenditure at this point is max 20,000 euros on hardware
20:27:15 <neoclust> tmb: :-)
20:27:36 <lewyssmith> Puzzled by the MSCW.
20:27:39 <DavidWHodgins> Ok as requested by maat, all in favour of accepting the report from ennael?
20:27:47 <DavidWHodgins> I'm in favour
20:27:50 <lewyssmith> Yes.
20:27:52 <auroud_85> Yes
20:27:52 <maat> yes
20:27:54 <martinw> yes
20:27:54 <ns80> yes
20:27:54 <schultz_> Yes
20:27:55 <Jybz> yes
20:27:57 <neoclust> Yes
20:27:59 <vouf_> yes
20:28:01 <apb> Yes
20:28:03 <marja> well
20:28:12 <marja> how many bitcoins do we have now?
20:28:20 <papoteur> yes
20:28:21 <Jybz> marja: ~ 30
20:28:22 <filip__k> yes. marja +1
20:28:24 <neoclust> marja: 30 from what i read
20:28:42 <marja> ok
20:28:55 <tmb> yes for the report
20:28:55 <marja> sorry, I must have missed something :-(
20:28:57 <maat> For BTC do we still have the control of the wallet ?
20:29:17 <maat> because if not BTC are useless
20:29:18 <bruno> yes
20:29:26 <neoclust> ennael: any idea on this ?
20:29:29 <schultz_> Should we keep them or convert to something else?
20:29:31 <ennael> yes we have
20:29:38 <neoclust> nice
20:29:42 <maat> no need to convert them
20:29:46 <filip__k> schultz_: I'm for conversion
20:29:53 <neoclust> schultz_: not good to have 1M€ on our bank account :)
20:29:53 <ennael> still it will need some advice about financial laws
20:29:56 * bruno thinking of the size of the next Mageia banquet ;-)
20:30:07 <DavidWHodgins> Back on topic. :-)
20:30:12 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: yes :)
20:30:15 <DavidWHodgins> Any against accepting the report from ennael?
20:30:18 <leuhmanu> ok for report
20:30:19 <Eighth_Doctor> hey all
20:30:20 <Jybz> neoclust: not good to have 1M€ in btc neither
20:30:34 <auroud_85> ok for report
20:30:39 <maat> the 2-3 biggest Decentralized Finance organisms allow traditional payment from BTC with on-the-fly conversion to euro or dollar
20:30:42 <Eighth_Doctor> okay for report
20:30:49 <stroibe974> ok for report too
20:31:03 <DavidWHodgins> Vote carried accepting the report. :-)
20:31:04 <leuhmanu> (all these BTC are from starting time when it was really low)
20:31:06 <ennael> maat: it's not about payment but taxes
20:31:07 <papoteur> Ok for the report
20:31:12 <bruno> neoclust: it that were my money, I'd feel more comfortable with EUR rather than BTC seeing their value.
20:31:20 <schultz_> Yes quite, it's something that we should discuss probably once a new board is elected.
20:31:27 <Eighth_Doctor> I agree with bruno... BTC scares me
20:31:27 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Board election
20:31:35 <maat> ennael: ah
20:31:36 <maat> ok
20:32:07 <lewyssmith> @schultz_, That would be a good Board topic.
20:32:18 <ennael> at the moment bankx are pretty ignorant about how to manage it
20:32:41 <DavidWHodgins> Who would like to be on the board? It deals primarily with legal (such as trademark questions) and financial issues (approving expenditures).
20:32:47 <Jybz> I would like
20:32:59 <bruno> I would like as well
20:33:05 <DavidWHodgins> I'm volunteering
20:33:11 <vouf_> me too
20:33:11 <auroud_85> I'm volunteer
20:33:11 <neoclust> i would like too
20:33:52 <lewyssmith> Martin is lurking: how about you?
20:33:52 <schultz_> lewyssmith: Assume that the association isn't allowed to invest, however, there has to be a better storage solution, and something we can do to keep the taxes manageable too.
20:34:16 <martinw> no for the board
20:34:23 <lewyssmith> Pity.
20:34:23 <tmb> 6 volunteers so far... that's covering minimal requirements
20:34:28 <papoteur> I'm candidate
20:34:35 <filip__k> \o/
20:34:47 <schultz_> I'd also like to be considered
20:35:00 <neoclust> filip__k: you are candidate ? :-)
20:35:14 * filip__k runs and hides
20:35:33 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: How about you?
20:35:52 <tmb> filip__k, runs for board and hides ?
20:36:02 <DavidWHodgins> lol
20:36:02 <neoclust> :-)
20:36:06 <apb> :)
20:36:07 <auroud_85> ;)
20:36:07 <filip__k> tmb: good one ;)
20:36:09 <neoclust> tmb: and you ?
20:36:11 <schultz_> How about you tmb?
20:36:41 <lewyssmith> I would say tmb is a must.
20:36:45 * ennael sees tmb hidding
20:36:48 <bruno> +1
20:36:52 <filip__k> +1
20:36:58 * auroud_85 vote for tmb
20:37:11 <Jybz> tmb votes count for 2 even if he is not in the board.
20:37:13 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: How's your health now?
20:37:14 <bruno> can we have candidates by acclamation ?
20:37:25 <lewyssmith> Yes.
20:37:28 <DavidWHodgins> bruno: Yes
20:37:35 <neoclust> lewyssmith: yes to come in the board ?
20:37:45 <bruno> so it's like electing the pope ;-)
20:37:47 <lewyssmith> Non merci.
20:37:53 <schultz_> Did this just turn into volunteering tmb as our High Consul
20:38:17 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, it's an interesting roller coaster
20:38:21 <maat> _o/ ?
20:38:28 <DavidWHodgins> Same as me
20:38:51 <Eighth_Doctor> haha
20:39:14 <Eighth_Doctor> I may be interested for the Mageia board, but I don't exactly understand what that entails
20:39:14 <schultz_> Hope covid hasn't been too hard on any of you, can't help much at all!
20:39:47 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Would you like to be back on the board? Please don't feel obligated if you do not want to add that to what you already do for Mageia.
20:40:09 <lewyssmith> If it only meets once every 3y...
20:40:22 <Eighth_Doctor> I'm already on the openSUSE Board and FESCo, so it depends on the duties for being a Mageia board member
20:40:26 <tmb> But I guess I can be on council until I drop or so ... (but not after :) )
20:40:31 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: We planning on getting back to annual as per the constitution
20:40:39 <tmb> s/council/board/
20:40:48 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah!
20:40:49 <neoclust> Eighth_Doctor: maybe you can't everywhere
20:40:52 <neoclust> :-)
20:41:14 <lewyssmith> @DavidWHodgins, It was just a dig.
20:41:15 <Eighth_Doctor> neoclust: well, I like helping everyone with what I'm capable of doing :)
20:41:17 <DavidWHodgins> So we have 8 candidates now. jybz, buno, davidwhodgins, vouf, auround_85, neoclust, papoteur, shultz_, tmb
20:41:19 <auroud_85> What about Board meeting every six month?
20:41:26 <maat> and maat
20:41:54 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: ok so we can validate the 9 members
20:41:59 <auroud_85> DavidWHodgins: s/auround_85/auroud_85
20:42:00 <DavidWHodgins> auroud_85: The board conducts bussiness as it arises in the board mailing lists rather  then actually meeting
20:42:05 <Eighth_Doctor> if the meetings are infrequent and the workload isn't that bad, I don't have a problem standing for the board
20:42:18 <auroud_85> It's ok
20:42:18 <schultz_> 6 months doesn't seem needed to me, there is rarely anything that needs to go beyond the Council
20:42:26 <lewyssmith> Your other experience could be useful.
20:42:41 <marja> DavidWHodgins: and maat and Eighth_Doctor, too?
20:42:57 <Jybz> marja: and you ?
20:42:58 <tmb> Eighth_Doctor, well so far we have tried to resolve all on council level, and only call on bord if council cant agree
20:43:12 <Eighth_Doctor> then yeah, I'm fine with running for the Board
20:43:14 <marja> Jybz: no, sorry
20:43:23 <Jybz> :(
20:43:25 <Eighth_Doctor> I have plenty of experience in project governance and I've been a councilmember for years
20:43:25 <Jybz> ;)
20:43:31 <DavidWHodgins> The financial an legal issues are rare, so the board doesn't do very much
20:43:35 <bruno> tmb: I think that based on your health status, you may want to wait if that's more convenient for you, and I'd be happy to leave you a seat (if only I'm elected) so you can join again.
20:43:48 <marja> Jybz: I hope to be around more, though
20:44:41 <DavidWHodgins> maat: Are you interested?
20:44:44 <tmb> bruno, meh... I'll rest when I'm dead :)
20:44:54 <neoclust> :-)
20:44:55 <Jybz> I'm not for Eighth_Doctor as he imposes his choices.
20:45:00 <maat> DavidWHodgins: ?
20:45:28 <DavidWHodgins> maat: Interested in volunteering for the board
20:45:33 <maat> yes
20:45:36 <Eighth_Doctor> Jybz: that's pretty much how doing work in a project works?
20:45:53 <bruno> tmb: so do I !!
20:46:05 <Eighth_Doctor> neoclust imposes his choices when doing Plasma stuff, ovitters does the same for GNOME, and so on
20:46:15 <neoclust> Eighth_Doctor: me ?
20:46:21 <Eighth_Doctor> that's pretty much how contributing and doing development is all about
20:46:31 <neoclust> Eighth_Doctor: ask David, i rarely impose anything
20:46:32 <lewyssmith> No squabbling, please.
20:46:36 <leuhmanu> can we please focus
20:46:38 <neoclust> lewyssmith: yes :)
20:46:41 <Jybz> you removed urpmi from mageia4arm project
20:46:45 <neoclust> go back on meeting
20:46:53 <stroibe974> DavidWHodgins: jybz, buno, davidwhodgins, vouf, auround_85, neoclust, papoteur, shultz_, tmb, maat ← that's a total of 10, I think ;)
20:46:56 <neoclust> Jybz: go on #mageia-dev for this :)
20:47:13 <bruno> s/buno/bruno/
20:47:23 <DavidWHodgins> Just fyi, since 2014 when I joined the board, the board-private ml has had 34 messages total, most of which were test messages to see if it was working. The board public ml has had 159, most of which were about elections
20:47:30 <stroibe974> oops, sorry bruno ;)
20:47:33 <auroud_85> s/auround_85/auroud_85
20:48:03 <DavidWHodgins> I have "jybz, buno, davidwhodgins, vouf, auround_85, neoclust, papoteur, shultz_, tmb, Eighth_Doctor, maat" Am I missing any?
20:48:04 <Jybz> sorry for the out of topic neoclust.
20:48:39 <stroibe974> auroud_85: oops, sorry too ;)
20:48:57 <marja> A biiig thank you to all volunteers!
20:49:03 <Jybz> and you stroibe974 ?
20:49:07 <filip__k> +1
20:49:07 <schultz_> s/shultz_/schultz_
20:49:19 * auroud_85 thinks if he should change his pseudo from auroud_85 to auround_85... ;) That's copy/paste...
20:49:51 <neoclust> so 11 persons ?
20:49:54 * auroud_85 is not so formal ;)
20:49:55 * stroibe974 is NOT volunteering for the board, thanks ;)
20:50:38 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, so all in favour of electing the 11 volunteers  for the board, jybz, buno, davidwhodgins, vouf, auround_85, neoclust, papoteur, shultz_, tmb, Eighth_Doctor, maat
20:50:51 <DavidWHodgins> I'm in favour
20:50:54 <marja> yes, I'm in favour of electing them all
20:50:59 <schultz_> In favour too
20:50:59 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: if less than 12 person iirc this is automagically accepted
20:51:00 <ns80> yes
20:51:03 <auroud_85> yes
20:51:04 <leuhmanu> Yes
20:51:11 <martinw> yes
20:51:12 <papoteur> Yes
20:51:13 <filip__k> in favour
20:51:15 <lewyssmith> yes
20:51:16 <stroibe974> yes
20:51:16 <apb> yes
20:51:17 <vouf_> yes
20:51:33 <DavidWHodgins> Any against any of the members?
20:51:53 <bruno> I'm in favour of electing them all
20:51:56 <maat> yes too i guess :)
20:51:59 <schultz_> No objections from me
20:52:05 <DavidWHodgins> New board elected. Thanks everyone
20:52:07 <neoclust> no objections.
20:52:13 <neoclust> damn, too late to vote :-)
20:52:20 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:52:28 <papoteur> \o/
20:52:35 <DavidWHodgins> I'm trying to keep the meeting reasonably short. :-)
20:52:48 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else
20:52:57 <tmb> yes
20:53:12 <tmb> when will next board meeting be
20:53:18 <Jybz> I already explain my objection, it won't changed things. So I vote yes also
20:53:33 <Jybz> 6 months or 12 months ?
20:53:36 <bruno> So when is the new board meeting to elect the president, tresurer, secretary and other roles that the association want to have ?
20:53:41 <tmb> so we can formalize positions
20:53:52 <lewyssmith> Not now!
20:53:52 <neoclust> can we do it right after ? this will be super short
20:54:03 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: In the past (since I joined), we haven't had a need for meetings and have just conducted all activity on the mailing lists. I
20:54:06 <stroibe974> neoclust: good idea
20:54:10 <schultz_> Is that something that will need a formal election? If so, that can run on the ml first
20:54:34 <bruno> For me voting is laways better wrt legitimity
20:54:53 <DavidWHodgins> Votes can be held via a mailing list too.
20:55:08 <schultz_> I would prefer that too. Can set up the same thing used for team elections
20:55:08 <neoclust> what is the more legitimate ? on irc or in ML ?
20:55:17 <DavidWHodgins> The board-public ml is open and archived for everyone to read
20:55:32 <lewyssmith> Equal, but IRC is better.
20:55:38 <bruno> DavidWHodgins: yes, the way to vote is less important than the fact to vote ;-)
20:56:02 <schultz_> True, do we want it to be blind though?
20:56:13 <auroud_85> Yeah IRC is better
20:56:16 <bruno> Do we have candidates already ?
20:56:28 <neoclust> bruno: i am candidate for presidency
20:56:34 <bruno> great ;-)
20:56:39 <DavidWHodgins> Anyway, we can decide how to select the executive committee members by discussions on the board ml. That is up to the new board, not a matter for this agm meeting.
20:56:57 <lewyssmith> True.
20:57:00 <bruno> true
20:57:15 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: we don't want this to take years :)
20:57:17 <auroud_85> true
20:57:39 <auroud_85> this should be done in a month.
20:57:41 <bruno> do we have an idea of what actions the association has done per se (I mean not counting the work on the distro) ?
20:57:45 <DavidWHodgins> However, as all new board members are present, we can do this now if there are no objections from any of the board members
20:57:55 <schultz_> Indeed, should we schedule the next meeting now, or rather after discussions on the ml about the committee?
20:57:57 <auroud_85> no objection
20:58:13 <lewyssmith> Discuss then chat.
20:58:30 <neoclust> ennael: can answer this
20:58:38 <Jybz> The constitution says it should be blind. But personnaly I don't care.
20:58:45 <bruno> no objection. At least having a president and treasurer would be a good thing no ? THere may be some info to pass between former and newer roles as well...
20:59:04 <filip__k> IMHO very important work NOW is to write donations.
20:59:12 <schultz_> IIRC, the treasurer needs to be a French resident
20:59:25 <DavidWHodgins> Any board members against selecting neoclust as the new president/chairman?
20:59:36 <bruno> no
20:59:44 <DavidWHodgins> I'm in favour
20:59:48 <schultz_> Nope, sounds great to me
21:00:01 <auroud_85> I'm in favour
21:00:15 <filip__k> me 2
21:00:25 <vouf_> No. Agreeing to Neoclust as President
21:00:41 <papoteur> I agree
21:00:54 <ns80> I also agree
21:00:57 <Jybz> I'm in favor
21:01:00 <DavidWHodgins> neoclust: Obviously you're in favour, so majority of board has approved it. All hail the new president neoclust! :-)
21:01:07 <lewyssmith> Well, the extra-Board business is done (its election), so bonne fin de soirée.
21:01:08 <bruno> Champagne !!
21:01:12 <maat> ok too
21:01:19 <neoclust> thanks everybody.
21:01:28 <tmb> yeah, ok for me
21:01:30 <neoclust> now we need the tresory
21:01:31 <maat> congrats
21:01:54 <DavidWHodgins> Voluteer from the board for the position of treasurer? Must be in France to deal with the banking in person when required.
21:02:00 <bruno> We should ask for candidate on the ML then I guess...
21:02:13 <DavidWHodgins> Has to be a board member
21:02:16 <neoclust> Jybz: volonteer for something ?
21:03:09 <filip__k> we shoul #info ;)
21:03:11 <DavidWHodgins> Who among the new board members is in France?
21:03:20 <Jybz> I'm in france.
21:03:26 <papoteur> Me
21:03:32 <auroud_85> Me in France
21:03:39 <neoclust> vouf_: papoteur Jybz auroud_85 maat bruno
21:03:41 <vouf_> Me
21:03:49 <Jybz> sorry, I was afk few minute, let me read
21:03:51 <schultz_> Don't think I can argue the Auld Alliance makes Scotland France..
21:04:00 <neoclust> but vouf explained his current lack of time
21:04:01 <DavidWHodgins> :-
21:04:27 <marja> lewyssmith is in France, too, but he is Welsh
21:04:39 <Jybz> marja: really ?
21:04:48 <marja> Jybz: yes
21:04:48 <auroud_85> Jybz: really
21:04:52 <DavidWHodgins> marja: He is not on the board, so can not be treasurer
21:04:55 <bruno> I'm also in France indeed
21:05:30 <marja> DavidWHodgins: sorry, my brain thought he had volunteered, too
21:05:43 <bruno> And I'm already dealing with the finance of another association, but I promised my wife to not commit too much :)
21:05:44 <DavidWHodgins> So we really need one of you to work with ennael to take over the role of treasurer
21:06:10 <neoclust> don't worry she is really a nice person :)
21:06:16 <DavidWHodgins> lol
21:06:18 <bruno> ;-)
21:06:19 <tmb> with matches
21:06:30 <filip__k> tmb: ;)
21:06:46 <maat> if nobody volunteers you can consider me
21:07:01 <maat> (but really if nobody else is volunteering)
21:07:06 <Jybz> Hahaha
21:07:10 <DavidWHodgins> maat: Looks like you're it! Thanks
21:07:18 <apb> :)
21:07:25 <Jybz> I was waiting and come at the end if no one comes
21:07:29 <Jybz> like maat
21:08:02 <stroibe974> ok, I am not a board member, so I'm leaving you now ;) good night!
21:08:12 <papoteur> Thus, we really need to vote !
21:08:12 <neoclust> stroibe974: thanks a good night
21:08:16 <schultz_> Night!
21:08:25 <Jybz> stroibe974: good night
21:08:26 <tmb> so we still need a secretary
21:08:31 <bruno> Wouldn't it be useful to have a second for these roles: that way if someone is too busy, someone else, who is aware enough can do it during that time.
21:08:46 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: so we need to vote for the tresorier vote first
21:08:51 <auroud_85> I'mvolonteer for secretary
21:08:52 <bruno> +1
21:09:03 <Jybz> I've no experiences and I've no idea what should be done for treasurer
21:09:16 <DavidWHodgins> Everyone in favour of maat for the position of treasurer?
21:09:21 <Jybz> but bruno, I please you to teach me
21:09:22 <DavidWHodgins> I'm in favour
21:09:24 <Luigi12> yes
21:09:30 <Jybz> Ah ?
21:09:34 <schultz_> I'm in favour too
21:09:36 <filip__k> yes
21:09:37 <bruno> In favour
21:09:46 <auroud_85> I'm in favour
21:09:53 <vouf_> yes
21:09:57 <Jybz> I didn't get it, I thought bruno was volonteering for treasurer
21:10:04 <neoclust> we can have maat as treasurer? and Jybz as vice treasurer?
21:10:17 <filip__k> neoclust: +1
21:10:29 <vouf_> neoclust: +1
21:10:32 <bruno> No, no, maat proposed first, and I'm also pretty busy. Maybe in 2 years from now if I retire ;-)
21:10:48 <bruno> neoclust: +1
21:10:49 <DavidWHodgins> That's a majority. maat is now treasurer
21:10:51 <papoteur> neoclust: I would be OK, but I don't think that the constitution allows that
21:11:02 <tmb> ok for maat as treasurer
21:11:02 <neoclust> papoteur: ah ok nice to see
21:11:13 <neoclust> we need to vote for secretary: Candidate auroud_85
21:11:15 <neoclust> i am for
21:11:29 <Jybz> I'm for
21:11:37 <vouf_> yes
21:11:40 <filip__k> yes from me
21:11:46 <DavidWHodgins> yes
21:11:48 <bruno> yes for me.
21:11:53 <schultz_> In favour too
21:11:53 <papoteur> I agree (for maat too, i'm late)
21:12:01 <auroud_85> yes
21:12:09 <DavidWHodgins> Majority reached. auroud_85 is now secretary
21:12:11 <tmb> ok for auroud_85 as secretary
21:12:17 <neoclust> nice nice nice :è)
21:12:20 <neoclust> :-)
21:12:37 <tmb> "that's all folks"
21:12:47 <bruno> There is a possibility to introduce vide-roles by amending the statutes (need just an extraordinary AGM for that). Doable. And once we're at it we can renwe what the board needs useful for the association.
21:12:47 <auroud_85> It seems !
21:13:06 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Mind handling the ldap changes? The board ldap group should now have only jybz, buno, davidwhodgins, vouf, auround_85, neoclust, papoteur, shultz_, tmb, Eighth_Doctor, maat
21:13:07 <auroud_85> bruno: +1
21:13:28 <vouf_> bruno:+1
21:13:38 <bruno> probably to be discussed on the list once we're allowed to write to it ;-)
21:13:45 <auroud_85> jybz, bruno, davidwhodgins, vouf, auroud_85, neoclust, papoteur, schultz_, tmb, Eighth_Doctor, maat
21:14:00 * auroud_85 corrected some mistyped nicknames
21:14:02 <Jybz> on lpad i'm jibz IIRC
21:14:28 <neoclust> i want to thank you all for this meeting
21:14:38 <bruno> Time to update https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org_Board
21:14:38 <DavidWHodgins> auroud_85: Thanks
21:14:42 <neoclust> and thanks ennael for all you did
21:14:47 <tmb> I actually need real mageia accounts, not irc nicknames (unelss all irc names match identity)
21:14:50 <schultz_> +1 for discussing any other changes on the ml, gives more time for it
21:14:53 <neoclust> ennael: the first was to hire me in 2010 ;)
21:14:54 <auroud_85> Secretary = writting ;)
21:15:11 <papoteur> neoclust: maat: auroud_85: Félicitations !
21:15:17 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Ok. I'll gather those after the meeting and post the request to the sysadmin ml
21:15:20 <auroud_85> Thanks papoteur!
21:15:23 <auroud_85> thanks all
21:15:24 <leuhmanu> for board, there was a request for renewal of membership to the april (mail on contact@)
21:15:31 <bruno> Yep thanks ennael for creating the most amazing distro !!
21:15:33 <Jybz> tmb: mine does not match, it is jibz.
21:15:36 <DavidWHodgins> ennael: Thank you from me too!
21:15:36 <Jybz> Thank you every one
21:15:38 <neoclust> leuhmanu: i already asked ennael to handle this
21:15:46 <maat> thanks all
21:15:52 <leuhmanu> neoclust: ok
21:16:03 <auroud_85> ennael: Thanks you !
21:16:06 <schultz_> Yeah really, huge thanks to ennael for everything that Mageia is!
21:16:23 <vouf_> ennael: Thanks
21:16:25 <maat> maybe i should have kept my mouth sut ^^
21:16:25 <filip__k> schultz_: +1
21:16:26 <bruno> my mageia user name is bcornec if that helps.
21:16:37 <maat> s/sut/shut/
21:16:38 <leuhmanu> nice to read you all, see you
21:16:40 <marja> ennael: you were the first and the last woman on the board and I'll always consider you to be Mageia's mother
21:17:07 <DavidWHodgins> Let's leave the rest for the mailing lists. Thanks for coming everyone. I'll start a countdown and close the meeting. if no one has any objections during the countdown.
21:17:10 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
21:17:14 <DavidWHodgins> 4
21:17:17 <DavidWHodgins> 3
21:17:19 <DavidWHodgins> 2
21:17:21 <Jybz> marja: you could enter
21:17:22 <DavidWHodgins> 1
21:17:23 <maat> bruno:
21:17:23 <Jybz> :)
21:17:28 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone!
21:17:32 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting