19:01:36 <wilcal> #startmeeting 19:01:36 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jul 18 19:01:36 2019 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:36 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:49 <wilcal> Welcome to another QA meeting 19:02:06 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 19:02:13 <wilcal> Is anyone new here today 19:02:51 <wilcal> NO one 19:02:54 <wilcal> #topic M7.1 - New ISOs. Go or No Go Already released? 19:02:58 <wilcal> Hi Tar 19:03:10 <tarazed> Hi Bill 19:03:25 <wilcal> So M7.1 is Officially on the road 19:03:55 <wilcal> I'm well into my 2nd week using it for the most part without major issues 19:04:03 <tarazed> Yep. Looks OK. Some misgivings about GLX and glmark2 19:04:24 <wilcal> Hi Beq 19:04:33 <wilcal> Actually M7.1 19:04:45 <Bequimao> hi wilcal! 19:05:36 <tarazed> Hi TJ 19:05:43 <MageiaTJ> Hi. 19:05:51 <wilcal> Hi TJ 19:06:02 <wilcal> Any issues on M7.1? 19:06:29 <rindolf> hi TJ 19:06:55 <wilcal> I have worked myself through 19:06:57 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25131 19:06:59 <[mbot> [ 25131 – Update request: kernel-5.1.18-1.mga7 ] 19:07:11 <MageiaTJ> No problems here. 19:07:13 <wilcal> and was successful with that 19:07:33 <tarazed> Have yet to try it. Tomorrow probably. 19:07:50 <wilcal> Doing a kernel update with Vbox involved will give you a good idea where things are ar 19:08:14 <tarazed> Good morning Bri or evening 19:08:29 <wilcal> It takes me a couple weeks to work though all the applications I use 19:08:43 <MageiaTJ> My Internet has been working for a couple of days, but could go back out at any time, so I haven't tried any updates yet. 19:09:00 <bri_an> ah there 19:09:06 <bri_an> Hi All 19:09:19 <tarazed> Yes TJ you need a stable connection 19:09:24 <wilcal> A lot of the little wrinkles I had with M6.1 have not resurfaced with M7.1 19:09:56 <bri_an> personally I have a lot of wrinkles 19:09:57 <wilcal> Plasma has become quite stable 19:10:29 <bri_an> wilcal: yes it has 19:11:16 <MageiaTJ> My production M7 install is fully updated, so that means I'm using 7.1. Seeing nothing of any consequence. For now. 19:11:18 <wilcal> Some of the little workarounds I used to use are not needed in the lastest Plasma 19:12:11 <wilcal> I've seen one or two favorable reviews referenced on the QA mailing list 19:13:48 <wilcal> Anything else on M7.1 release 19:14:03 <tarazed> Not for me, today 19:14:28 <bri_an> none from me 19:14:45 <wilcal> If you haven't noticed the M8 repo is moving pretty fast already 19:14:53 <wilcal> I call it M8 19:15:36 <wilcal> Cauldron 19:15:47 <wilcal> there was a big update to that today 19:15:58 <hviaene> Not too late I hope 19:16:00 <tarazed> Good evening Herman et papoteur 19:16:04 <MageiaTJ> Bug 24189 has shown up again. Very annoying for those affected. 19:16:19 <wilcal> We are still kinda talking about the release of M7.1 19:16:28 <wilcal> Any major issues for you? 19:16:39 <hviaene> No 19:17:02 <wilcal> So lets move on to 19:17:04 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 19:17:22 <wilcal> as expected a lot of updates get released after a major new release 19:17:47 <wilcal> I've already worked the kernel bugfix and that went ok and that's a good sign 19:17:54 <Benmc> sorry folks, time to go 19:17:59 <wilcal> bye Ben 19:18:06 <bri_an> bye Ben 19:18:23 <wilcal> So QA reverts back to testing updates 19:18:27 <tarazed> Some mga6 updates look like they are never going to be done 19:18:41 <bri_an> tarazed: I'd agree on a few of them 19:18:48 <wilcal> That's a very good sub issue 19:18:52 <bri_an> I'm testing the gvfs on m6 today 19:19:16 <wilcal> EOL of M6.1 is tagged at 30 Sep 2019 19:19:24 <wilcal> LEss then 90-days out 19:19:40 <wilcal> There seems to be a lot of support to make that a brick wall date 19:20:20 <hviaene> As a QA person I can understand 19:21:01 <hviaene> But as a user I would like a LTS 19:21:04 <bri_an> hviaene: you're the one with clients on MGA. Any challenge in moving them over 19:21:06 <bri_an> ? 19:21:09 <tarazed> Will that kill the outstanding updates? 19:21:37 <bri_an> is that correct or am I mistaking you for another member 19:21:38 <bri_an> ? 19:21:46 <wilcal> Always a struggle. Remember tryiing to kill off M5? 19:21:51 <hviaene> Not so much, just the effort involved 19:22:27 <hviaene> ANd there's one I would lik toupgrade rather than new install 19:22:30 <tarazed> wilcal: yes it did linger 19:23:33 <wilcal> tmb mentioned that maintaining M6.1 will be an overwhelming effort so we need to EOL is ASAP 19:23:48 <wilcal> And I kinda support that 19:24:04 <wilcal> so be aware that M6.1 EOL is coming soon 19:25:21 <bri_an> 2019-9-30 19:25:37 <wilcal> Yes 19:26:18 <wilcal> Will QA support dropping M6.1 open bugs on 2019-9-30? 19:26:19 <MageiaTJ> From a user viewpoint, I don't believe the jump from M6 to M7 is as big as from M5 to M6. 19:26:45 <hviaene> I ttend to agree 19:26:46 <bri_an> or m6 plasma to m6.1 plasma to be honest 19:27:14 <tarazed> It has been fairly effortless 19:28:13 <MageiaTJ> Some longstanding open bugs I would have no problem dropping, since if they had been solved, they wouldn't be longstanding. 19:28:14 <wilcal> And Plasma at release was not all that stable 19:28:41 <wilcal> So that question will come up in the next 90-days or so 19:29:17 <wilcal> Also consider that we are deep in the European Holiday season so people are not around 19:29:36 <MageiaTJ> We should try our best to leave as few unresolved as possible. 19:29:53 <hviaene> For the moment I cnn't do anything anymore on the 32-bit front on those hanging updates 19:30:00 <wilcal> Maybe we should designate the ones that need to be worked on 19:30:12 <tarazed> Can I ask about vlc in mga6 testing. We need some more details to proceed with QA testing. 19:30:23 <wilcal> IMO 32-bit is really dead except for in Vbox clients 19:31:09 <wilcal> An issue for next weeks meeting 19:31:17 <tarazed> I had to drop mythtv but it is probably important 19:31:19 <wilcal> Which bugs to concentrate on 19:31:42 <wilcal> That was a hardware specific bug I think 19:31:43 <tarazed> Right, we should think about it. 19:32:57 <wilcal> Anything else on testing updates 19:33:53 <wilcal> So lets move on to 19:33:54 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 19:34:05 <bri_an> nothing from me 19:34:09 <hviaene> Nope 19:34:18 <MageiaTJ> Nothing here. 19:34:26 <wilcal> I have a medical appointment early next Thur morning but should be here in time for the QA meeting 19:34:43 <wilcal> Other then that I have nothing else 19:34:45 <bri_an> best wishes on that 19:35:14 <wilcal> So a brief meeting today after the release of M7.1 19:35:19 <wilcal> Countdown time 19:35:22 <wilcal> T-5 19:35:27 <wilcal> thanks all for being here 19:35:36 <hviaene> G'night all 19:35:39 <wilcal> T-4 19:35:44 <wilcal> T-3 19:35:48 <wilcal> T-2 19:35:53 <wilcal> T-1 19:35:53 <tarazed> Bye everybody 19:35:55 <wilcal> bye all 19:35:58 <wilcal> #endmeeting