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19:03:34 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:03:39 <wilcal> anyone new here today
19:04:00 <wilcal> silence
19:04:04 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 3, Status & Testing
19:04:19 <wilcal> ok so lemme take a look at the M7 repo
19:05:05 <wilcal> just a few updates today none of them earthshaking
19:05:16 <wilcal> so this thing has settled down considerably
19:05:19 <wilcal> hi tar
19:05:21 <MageiaTJ> Still waiting on integration of the new artwork before the RCs, I believe.
19:05:27 <tarazed> Hi there Bill
19:05:34 <wilcal> OK thanks for that update
19:05:47 <wilcal> otherwise everything here is very stable
19:06:11 <wilcal> I'm almost thinking of moving my main system over
19:06:11 <Benmc> maybe also waiting for nvidia340 fix too
19:06:24 <MageiaTJ> I've even had success with upgrade installs in Vbox.
19:06:45 <wilcal> My nvidia340 legacy platform is working just fine
19:06:52 <tarazed> In the middle of a DNF upgrade just now - looks good so far
19:07:14 <MageiaTJ> Yes, that's right. TMB didn't seem optimistic for a quick fix to the nvidia 340 problem, though.
19:07:21 <wilcal> Today was a big Vbox client shuffle for me and once that is over I'll try some M6 -> M7 upgrades
19:07:50 <wilcal> what's the bug number on that one
19:08:09 <MageiaTJ> Gimme a sec...
19:08:16 <ZekeMX> I had to install Mageia 7 beta 3 x64 on a toshiba in legacy mode.. I think there's a bug on the UEFI kernel on that toshiba.. since it acted very strange.
19:08:33 <Benmc> bug 24719
19:08:36 <[mbot> Bug: ['updating to nvidia340/340.107-6.mga7 results in no desktop presented', 'NEW', 'Kernel and Drivers maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24719
19:09:02 <wilcal> Thanks
19:09:32 <wilcal> I'll go through my open bugs on M7 and clean all that up.
19:09:58 <Benmc> zekeMX, model of that Toshiba?
19:09:59 <wilcal> Anyone seeing anything that prevents us from going to RC or even releaseing
19:10:11 <tarazed> Even the later nvidia drivers have problems now if there is a change of kernel
19:10:25 <MageiaTJ> Nouveau still works on my machine, but not all are that lucky.
19:10:43 <Benmc> I have to use vesa!
19:11:13 <hviaene> RC OK, but releasing 32 bit that does not start without fidgetting???
19:11:17 <tarazed> wilcal: No, nothing obvious to stall the release
19:11:49 <ZekeMX> Toshiba Satellite C855D-S5104 is the one I had a problem.. it has the latest UEFI kernel
19:12:16 <hviaene> I can agree the problem is bound to this very old HW.
19:12:52 <Benmc> I cant get it to UEFI on my Toshiba portege R930, legacy there too
19:12:58 <MageiaTJ> I think we found that Herman's 32-bit problem tracks back to sse2 support being needed the way things are.
19:13:40 <wilcal> I have an nvidia/gigabyte/i7 platform that refuses to go UEFI
19:14:06 <wilcal> That's a Sandybridge platform so it's a little old
19:14:19 <hviaene> TJ: so I should check on the laptop foor sse2 support ?
19:14:36 <ZekeMX> I think there IS the need to sse2.. I have an old PC with an old AMD XL processor with no SSE2.. Mageian 6 works great but not 7.
19:14:55 <wilcal> We start thinking about what bugs can really be fixed after release at this point
19:15:01 <Benmc> UEFI implementations vary so much between brands
19:15:08 <MageiaTJ> (Chuckle.) I just *upgraded* to a Sandy Bridge platform...
19:15:36 <wilcal> Sandybridge is a very good Intel chip
19:16:10 <Benmc> ZekeMX, I too have a sse (not sse2) processir that Mga7 not working on
19:16:26 <wilcal> Mag: any idea when the new artwork will release?
19:16:39 <kekePower> wilcal: I agree. Got a Xeon here
19:17:19 <wilcal> There is A LOT of legacy platforms coming on the used computer market because of the move to the Cloud
19:17:30 <MageiaTJ> hviaene: it wouldn't hurt. Martin said something to somebody about how something should be re-compiled if we are going to say we support non-sse2 hardware.
19:17:40 <wilcal> No one in their right mind anymore runs a server farm
19:17:44 <hviaene> ZekeMX: M7 on that thing works OK once I got around the booting problem
19:17:55 <MageiaTJ> No, all I know is what I read on the Council ML.
19:18:43 <wilcal> Anything else on M7?
19:19:01 <hviaene> Not here
19:19:09 <ZekeMX> not here
19:19:20 <MageiaTJ> Nothing here.
19:19:25 <Benmc> sorry guys, got to go. see you next week
19:19:33 <wilcal> bye ben
19:19:35 <tarazed> See you Ben
19:19:37 <ZekeMX> see ya Ben
19:19:39 <wilcal> lets move on then
19:19:46 <hviaene> CU Ben
19:19:56 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
19:20:46 <wilcal> Validated list needs to be pushed on. I can't do that
19:21:10 <MageiaTJ> No news on the Libreoffice update that I've heard.
19:21:14 <wilcal> Otherwise list is under control
19:21:18 <hviaene> Spending too much time trying to resolve someone's M$ Access problems
19:22:12 <MageiaTJ> Several of them need advisories before they can be pushed.
19:22:28 <tarazed> wilcal: few of the validated updates have asterisks *
19:23:44 <wilcal> what do the asterisks * mean?
19:23:47 <MageiaTJ> I'll see if I can give Dave a nudge to upload some advisories.
19:24:04 <MageiaTJ> The asterisks mean they need those advisories.
19:24:19 <tarazed> wilcal: they indicate that an advisory has been pushed
19:24:29 <wilcal> ok thks
19:24:44 <hviaene> Is there a new version of the libxlst yet?
19:24:53 <MageiaTJ> I meant the lack of them means they are in need.
19:25:22 <Bequimao> tarazed: I don't see any *
19:25:32 <tarazed> quite
19:26:37 <Bequimao> no, php has an asteriks
19:26:39 <wilcal> Sorry I can't do the advisories :-(
19:26:53 <MageiaTJ> Neither can I.
19:27:04 <wilcal> anyway hopefully someone can work that
19:27:22 <wilcal> I tried once and didn't do a very good job at it
19:27:26 <tarazed> Bequimao: right - and php is back in the list
19:27:58 <wilcal> Anything else on updates
19:28:09 <Bequimao> someone did the job.
19:29:04 <hviaene> No
19:30:12 <wilcal> So lets move along
19:30:26 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
19:30:52 <wilcal> I have a Trade Show next week but should be here on Thursday
19:31:05 <wilcal> This town is a zillion trade shows
19:31:05 <tarazed> Oh oh - the dnf upgrade seems to have stalled on the java scriptlet
19:32:04 <Bequimao> tarazed: just wait.
19:32:09 <ZekeMX> It would be great that dnf has something like --allow-nodeps ..
19:33:15 <MageiaTJ> I'm really liking my new ssds - in particular the speedy boots.
19:33:20 <tarazed> OK, I'll wait
19:33:25 <hviaene> Nothing else here, I have to leave
19:33:32 <hviaene> G'night all
19:33:38 <wilcal> Later hvi
19:33:40 <tarazed> Bye Herman
19:33:41 <MageiaTJ> 'night, Herman
19:33:43 <ZekeMX> Good nigh hviaene
19:34:14 <wilcal> you can buy a pretty decent 120/250 GB ssd these days for under $50
19:34:55 <tarazed> I have a couple of spare ones now because my fileserver burnt out
19:35:04 <MageiaTJ> I put a new 480 in this desktop for $60.
19:35:22 <ZekeMX> Wow... ;-)
19:35:28 <ZekeMX> I want one!
19:35:50 <MageiaTJ> Found mine on eBay...
19:36:27 <MageiaTJ> Adata SU800.
19:36:58 <wilcal> Ok one last thought. All the local Casion/Hotel/Resorts here have small convention centers and one of them near me was running a trade show for Garbage Truck Manufactures. The parking lot was filled with untrashed Garbage trucks
19:37:08 <wilcal> Count down time
19:37:13 <wilcal> T-5
19:37:25 <wilcal> T-4
19:37:34 <wilcal> see you folks next Thursday have a good one
19:37:45 <wilcal> T-3
19:37:58 <ZekeMX> ok wildcal
19:37:58 <wilcal> T-2
19:38:02 <tarazed> Night everybody
19:38:04 <wilcal> bye all
19:38:07 <ZekeMX> have a great day/night to all
19:38:08 <wilcal> T-1
19:38:11 <wilcal> #endmeeting