20:01:58 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:01:58 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Mar 14 20:01:58 2019 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:58 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:02:14 <wilcal> #topic Time change 20:02:29 <rindolf> wilcal: hi 20:02:37 <wilcal> So we're starting at 21:00 GMT today and the next 2 meetings 20:03:00 <wilcal> then back to 20:00 GMT when Europe jumps ahead 1 hour 20:03:20 <wilcal> The world's gotta get rid of this nonsense 20:03:23 <DavidWHodgins> No. Meeting is at 20UTC as usual 20:03:24 <tarazed> 20:00 UT or GMT here 20:03:34 <wilcal> Hello David 20:03:56 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa. Correction about meeting time sent to the ml. 20:04:03 <tarazed> Have to agree Bill - Europe is considering it I think 20:04:05 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins 20:04:05 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins wilcal 20:04:15 <wilcal> You got the Chair David 20:04:36 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello 20:04:56 <DavidWHodgins> Any one here who has not been to a qa team irc meeting before? 20:05:30 <DavidWHodgins> #topic M7 Beta 2, release 3 Status 20:05:58 <wilcal> All my M7 installs here are running very nicely 20:06:09 <DavidWHodgins> Do we have packagers here to confirm the gnome update etc., needed for the next beta are ready? 20:06:10 <stroibe974> same here wilcal 20:06:14 <wilcal> updates todsay went fine 20:06:28 <wilcal> still some warts but they're munning away 20:06:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic M7 Beta 3, status 20:06:45 <DavidWHodgins> There. topic corrected 20:06:57 <wilcal> So where are we at with the new Gnome 20:07:04 <rindolf> i've tested mate desktop today 20:07:21 <wilcal> Ahhh how did that go 20:07:21 <rindolf> kekePower: 20:07:35 <DavidWHodgins> I guess we are now waiting for Martin to build the beta 3 iso images 20:07:47 <wilcal> I've a little time this weekend 20:07:56 <wilcal> by then maybe 20:08:03 <rindolf> wilcal: it had some quirks but they may be by design 20:09:00 <stroibe974> I've got a Mga6 running Mate in a Virtualbox, I will try to upgrade it to Mga7 this weekend 20:09:11 <Benmc> on-line upgrades are looking good, except anything with cinnamon desktop 20:09:36 <DavidWHodgins> What's happening with cinnamon? 20:11:02 <Benmc> bug# 23875 20:11:24 <Benmc> cinnamon upgrade from Mga6 to mga7(cauldron) fails due to cinnamon-translations-4.0.0-1.mga7.noarch conflict 20:11:44 <DavidWHodgins> For references here, leave out the number sign. bug 23875 should generate the link 20:11:46 <[mbot> Bug: ['After a fine installation, cauldron is very slow ("drm atomic helper wait for" errors)', 'RESOLVED', 'Kernel and Drivers maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23875 20:11:51 <Benmc> still valid as of lst weekend 20:12:18 <Benmc> fat fingers : Bug 23857 20:12:41 <Benmc> cinnamon upgrade from Mga6 to mga7(cauldron) fails due to cinnamon-translations-4.0.0-1.mga7.noarch conflict 20:13:43 <Benmc> bug 23857 20:13:45 <[mbot> Bug: ['cinnamon upgrade from Mga6 to mga7(cauldron) fails due to cinnamon-translations-4.0.0-1.mga7.noarch conflict', 'REOPENED', 'Joseph Wang'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23857 20:14:04 <DavidWHodgins> So the file conflict is still there? 20:14:16 <Benmc> as of last weekend , yep 20:15:02 <Benmc> but if you manually install cinnamon-translations, upgrade will complete 20:15:55 <DavidWHodgins> cinnamon is on the classic iso images, so that needs to be fixed quickly. Before the iso images are created. I'll ping the bug report and let Martin know. 20:17:15 <DavidWHodgins> Bug report pinged. It would be nice to get it fixed before the iso images are created, but for a beta iso, it's not really a blocker. 20:17:34 <DavidWHodgins> Moving on 20:17:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Time change in three weeks 20:18:00 <wilcal> So we started at the correct time today 20:18:27 <DavidWHodgins> #info As per my correction to the mailing list, meeting times stay at 20:00 UTC/GMT until Europe changes time. Then they move to 19:00 UTC/GMT 20:18:40 <wilcal> ok 20:18:55 <DavidWHodgins> So an hour later for those of us who have already moved to DST, until then. 20:19:05 <hviaene> That's right 20:19:28 <DavidWHodgins> Except for those in the Southern Hemisphere. :-) 20:19:38 <wilcal> All so the farmers have an extra hour in the day to milk the cows 20:19:49 <stroibe974> ;) 20:19:50 <wilcal> That's what it was for 20:19:54 <DavidWHodgins> For them, I suggest using date -u to confirm the time. :-) 20:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> Actually, it was to reduce electricity usage during the first world war 20:20:48 <Benmc> Wilcal, I heard it was so people could have a relaxing latte after work 20:21:01 <Benmc> or 2 20:21:04 <DavidWHodgins> That's why it's been kept, not why it was created 20:21:05 <wilcal> So many reasons have been put forward 20:21:09 <wilcal> Time to get rid of it 20:21:16 <DavidWHodgins> One of the reasons rather. 20:21:47 <Benmc> I blame Ben Franklin myself 20:21:50 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed. Won't happen here though unless the US east coast changes too. 20:22:09 <DavidWHodgins> Moving on ... 20:22:10 <wilcal> It'll happen when the USA switches to the Metric System 20:22:15 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any questions or problems 20:22:35 <wilcal> I'm comfortable with the Libreoffice update 20:22:55 <wilcal> Todays kernel update went just fine here today 20:23:13 <DavidWHodgins> I'll look into the koji update. I expect it'll just be confirming the update installs cleanly 20:23:56 <DavidWHodgins> sympa is a bit of a pain to set up, but we've done it before. The old bug reports should show how 20:24:13 <DavidWHodgins> Same with dokuwiki 20:24:48 <DavidWHodgins> Still waiting for the php stuff to get sorted out. 20:25:38 <DavidWHodgins> There's a kernel update building right now. Will have to wait to find out if it's urgent or not. 20:26:01 <wilcal> OMG Another? 20:26:07 <DavidWHodgins> Yes 20:26:17 <wilcal> Must be critical 20:26:39 <DavidWHodgins> https://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ is showing kernel-4.14.106-1.mga6 20:26:40 <[mbot> [ Build system status ] 20:27:17 <DavidWHodgins> May just be something that came up shortly after the last one was built 20:27:57 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 20:28:11 <wilcal> I'm good 20:28:11 <hviaene> I'll have another lookat sympa 20:28:37 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks. Check the old bug reports. It's not too hard, just tedious. 20:28:54 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then. 20:28:59 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 20:29:01 <DavidWHodgins> 4 20:29:03 <wilcal> Thanks all 20:29:04 <DavidWHodgins> 3 20:29:06 <DavidWHodgins> 2 20:29:07 <DavidWHodgins> 1 20:29:12 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming! 20:29:16 <hviaene> G'night all 20:29:19 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting