20:01:58 <wilcal> #startmeeting
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20:02:14 <wilcal> #topic Time change
20:02:29 <rindolf> wilcal: hi
20:02:37 <wilcal> So we're starting at 21:00 GMT today and the next 2 meetings
20:03:00 <wilcal> then back to 20:00 GMT when Europe jumps ahead 1 hour
20:03:20 <wilcal> The world's gotta get rid of this nonsense
20:03:23 <DavidWHodgins> No. Meeting is at 20UTC as usual
20:03:24 <tarazed> 20:00 UT or GMT here
20:03:34 <wilcal> Hello David
20:03:56 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa. Correction about meeting time sent to the ml.
20:04:03 <tarazed> Have to agree Bill - Europe is considering it I think
20:04:05 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins
20:04:05 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins wilcal
20:04:15 <wilcal> You got the Chair David
20:04:36 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello
20:04:56 <DavidWHodgins> Any one here who has not been to a qa team irc meeting before?
20:05:30 <DavidWHodgins> #topic M7 Beta 2, release 3 Status
20:05:58 <wilcal> All my M7 installs here are running very nicely
20:06:09 <DavidWHodgins> Do we have packagers here to confirm the gnome update etc., needed for the next beta are ready?
20:06:10 <stroibe974> same here wilcal
20:06:14 <wilcal> updates todsay went fine
20:06:28 <wilcal> still some warts but they're munning away
20:06:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic M7 Beta 3, status
20:06:45 <DavidWHodgins> There. topic corrected
20:06:57 <wilcal> So where are we at with the new Gnome
20:07:04 <rindolf> i've tested mate desktop today
20:07:21 <wilcal> Ahhh how did  that go
20:07:21 <rindolf> kekePower:
20:07:35 <DavidWHodgins> I guess we are now waiting for Martin to build the beta 3 iso images
20:07:47 <wilcal> I've a little time this weekend
20:07:56 <wilcal> by then maybe
20:08:03 <rindolf> wilcal: it had some quirks but they may be by design
20:09:00 <stroibe974> I've got a Mga6 running Mate in a Virtualbox, I will try to upgrade it to Mga7 this weekend
20:09:11 <Benmc> on-line upgrades are looking good, except anything with cinnamon desktop
20:09:36 <DavidWHodgins> What's happening with cinnamon?
20:11:02 <Benmc> bug# 23875
20:11:24 <Benmc> cinnamon upgrade from Mga6 to mga7(cauldron) fails due to cinnamon-translations-4.0.0-1.mga7.noarch conflict
20:11:44 <DavidWHodgins> For references here, leave out the number sign. bug 23875 should generate the link
20:11:46 <[mbot> Bug: ['After a fine installation, cauldron is very slow ("drm atomic helper wait for" errors)', 'RESOLVED', 'Kernel and Drivers maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23875
20:11:51 <Benmc> still valid as of lst weekend
20:12:18 <Benmc> fat fingers : Bug 23857
20:12:41 <Benmc> cinnamon upgrade from Mga6 to mga7(cauldron) fails due to cinnamon-translations-4.0.0-1.mga7.noarch conflict
20:13:43 <Benmc> bug 23857
20:13:45 <[mbot> Bug: ['cinnamon upgrade from Mga6 to mga7(cauldron) fails due to cinnamon-translations-4.0.0-1.mga7.noarch conflict', 'REOPENED', 'Joseph Wang'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23857
20:14:04 <DavidWHodgins> So the file conflict is still there?
20:14:16 <Benmc> as of last weekend , yep
20:15:02 <Benmc> but if you manually install  cinnamon-translations, upgrade will complete
20:15:55 <DavidWHodgins> cinnamon is on the classic iso images, so that needs to be fixed quickly. Before the iso images are created. I'll ping the bug report and let Martin know.
20:17:15 <DavidWHodgins> Bug report pinged. It would be nice to get it fixed before the iso images are created, but for a beta iso, it's not really a blocker.
20:17:34 <DavidWHodgins> Moving on
20:17:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Time change in three weeks
20:18:00 <wilcal> So we started at the correct time today
20:18:27 <DavidWHodgins> #info As per my correction to the mailing list, meeting times stay at 20:00 UTC/GMT until Europe changes time. Then they move to 19:00 UTC/GMT
20:18:40 <wilcal> ok
20:18:55 <DavidWHodgins> So an hour later for those of us who have already moved to DST, until then.
20:19:05 <hviaene> That's right
20:19:28 <DavidWHodgins> Except for those in the Southern Hemisphere. :-)
20:19:38 <wilcal> All so the farmers have an extra hour in the day to milk the cows
20:19:49 <stroibe974> ;)
20:19:50 <wilcal> That's what it was for
20:19:54 <DavidWHodgins> For them, I suggest using date -u to confirm the time. :-)
20:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> Actually, it was to reduce electricity usage during the first world war
20:20:48 <Benmc> Wilcal, I heard it was so people could have a relaxing latte after work
20:21:01 <Benmc> or 2
20:21:04 <DavidWHodgins> That's why it's been kept, not why it was created
20:21:05 <wilcal> So many reasons have been put forward
20:21:09 <wilcal> Time to get rid of it
20:21:16 <DavidWHodgins> One of the reasons rather.
20:21:47 <Benmc> I blame Ben Franklin myself
20:21:50 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed. Won't happen here though unless the US east coast changes too.
20:22:09 <DavidWHodgins> Moving on ...
20:22:10 <wilcal> It'll happen when the USA switches to the Metric System
20:22:15 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any questions or problems
20:22:35 <wilcal> I'm comfortable with the Libreoffice update
20:22:55 <wilcal> Todays kernel update went just fine here today
20:23:13 <DavidWHodgins> I'll look into the koji update. I expect it'll just be confirming the update installs cleanly
20:23:56 <DavidWHodgins> sympa is a bit of a pain to set up, but we've done it before. The old bug reports should show how
20:24:13 <DavidWHodgins> Same with dokuwiki
20:24:48 <DavidWHodgins> Still waiting for the php stuff to get sorted out.
20:25:38 <DavidWHodgins> There's a kernel update building right now. Will have to wait to find out if it's urgent or not.
20:26:01 <wilcal> OMG Another?
20:26:07 <DavidWHodgins> Yes
20:26:17 <wilcal> Must be critical
20:26:39 <DavidWHodgins> https://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ is showing kernel-4.14.106-1.mga6
20:26:40 <[mbot> [ Build system status ]
20:27:17 <DavidWHodgins> May just be something that came up shortly after the last one was built
20:27:57 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
20:28:11 <wilcal> I'm good
20:28:11 <hviaene> I'll have another lookat sympa
20:28:37 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks. Check the old bug reports. It's not too hard, just tedious.
20:28:54 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then.
20:28:59 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
20:29:01 <DavidWHodgins> 4
20:29:03 <wilcal> Thanks all
20:29:04 <DavidWHodgins> 3
20:29:06 <DavidWHodgins> 2
20:29:07 <DavidWHodgins> 1
20:29:12 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming!
20:29:16 <hviaene> G'night all
20:29:19 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting