20:02:32 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 20:02:32 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Feb 21 20:02:32 2019 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02:32 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:02:33 <rindolf> MageiaTJ: hi 20:02:38 <wilcal> Yippee it worked 20:02:38 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal MageiaTJ 20:02:38 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MageiaTJ wilcal 20:02:43 <DavidWHodgins> #topic https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47325381 20:02:45 <[mbot`> [ 'Firefall' in Yosemite National Park stuns visitors - BBC News ] 20:02:52 <DavidWHodgins> Oops 20:02:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello 20:03:05 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:03:19 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before? 20:03:26 <MageiaTJ> So what happened in Yosemite? 20:03:52 <DavidWHodgins> just sunshine hitting a waterfall in a weird way. :-) 20:04:04 <DavidWHodgins> Was reading that just before the meeting 20:04:20 <MageiaTJ> Cool. 20:04:21 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * M7 Beta 2 - Any blocking issues 20:04:32 <kekePower> lgtm 20:04:34 <wilcal> Are we in beta 2 or 3 20:04:47 <DavidWHodgins> This is beta 2 round 3 20:04:48 <MageiaTJ> beta 2 round 3 20:04:54 <wilcal> Ahhh 20:04:59 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: well, installation inside a vm is too slow here 20:05:06 <rindolf> no idea why 20:05:09 <DavidWHodgins> Beta 3 will be after gnome 3.32 is available 20:05:23 <bri_an> any idea when that will be David? 20:05:35 <MageiaTJ> Working nicely on my production machines. Using it now. 20:05:36 <hviaene> My 32 bitter does not boot M7 unless I use the vesa video driver 20:05:49 <DavidWHodgins> rindolf: Which vm (vb, qemu/xen/, kernel containers, ...) 20:05:55 <hviaene> It's an old Intel graphic 20:06:36 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: see https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23942 20:06:38 <[mbot`> [ 23942 – On a Mageia v7 x86-64 Host, installing Mageia v7 beta1 classical .iso inside virtualbox is very slow. ] 20:06:50 <DavidWHodgins> bri_an: Is scheduled to be available March 13th 20:07:09 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: tried both vbox and kvm 20:07:14 <kekePower> isn't that gnome 3.32rc we talking about? 20:07:15 <DavidWHodgins> So a few days to get it into Mageia and then new iso images created. 20:07:41 <wilcal> hi tar 20:07:50 <tarazed> hey there Bill 20:08:07 <bri_an> thanks 20:08:24 <rindolf> tarazed: hi 20:08:30 <DavidWHodgins> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/gnome-3-32-release-date-set 20:08:31 <[mbot`> [ The GNOME 3.32 Release Date is Set - OMG! Ubuntu! ] 20:08:43 <hviaene> Tarazed: hi mate 20:08:44 <DavidWHodgins> So not supposed to be rc 20:08:45 <tarazed> Evenin Shlomi 20:08:45 * Pharaoh_Atem waves 20:08:49 <kekePower> hi rindolf. (sorry... didn't notice your greeting before now) 20:08:55 <kekePower> howdy Pharaoh_Atem 20:09:14 <tarazed> Hi Herman. 20:09:21 <kekePower> DavidWHodgins: Nice 20:09:24 <wilcal> So that's a major update for Gnome right? 20:09:25 <rindolf> Pharaoh_Atem: hi 20:09:29 <MageiaTJ> David, tmb wrote that he had beta2 isos ready to release when we say the word. 20:09:54 <kekePower> wilcal: As I understood it, 3.32 is LTS 20:10:10 <wilcal> Ahhhh we should wait for that 20:10:19 <Zeke> hello everyone!! 20:11:10 <DavidWHodgins> Regarding bug 23942, not much we can do about that one as I see it. I'm not seeing it here, but I have the .vdi files on one of my ssd drives 20:11:12 <[mbot`> Bug: ['On a Mageia v7 x86-64 Host, installing Mageia v7 beta1 classical .iso inside virtualbox is very slow.', 'NEW', 'ISO building group'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23942 20:11:28 <MageiaTJ> For those who came late: We're asking if there are any blockers for the beta2 isos. 20:11:32 <tarazed> G'day Zeke 20:11:41 <wilcal> I want to go over what I went through in the last week or so to determine how severe it really is. Oxygen Theme 20:11:49 <tarazed> I have not seen any yet. 20:11:55 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24375 20:11:57 <[mbot`> [ 24375 – M7 is hogging all of available memory and swap and won't let it go ] 20:11:58 <Zeke> Not for me! everything !! 20:12:11 <Zeke> everything is great!! 20:12:37 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: When capturing the htop output, don't forget to sort it by rss, and use the K key to toggle the kernel threads being shown 20:12:54 <wilcal> So i have been using Oxygen Theme on M6 & M7 20:12:57 <DavidWHodgins> That one does appear to be hardware specific 20:13:14 <wilcal> On M7 as I have determined it immediately max's out DRAM and Swap. 20:13:16 <DavidWHodgins> We can add it to the errata for now 20:13:26 <wilcal> So bad the system becomes unusable 20:13:35 <wilcal> Infact several times it blew up the boot loader 20:13:56 <wilcal> Adding it to the errata is a for sure if we can fix it 20:14:03 <bri_an> wow and a rebuild did not resolve? 20:14:23 <DavidWHodgins> Once the swap is full and it starts killing processes, the system is basically dying. 20:14:25 <wilcal> Drive was basically erased and could not be gotten to 20:14:36 <wilcal> All over a lousy Theme 20:14:51 <wilcal> The HD light is like a 100w light bulb 20:14:56 <DavidWHodgins> Likely the process writing the boot loader was killed due to lack of ram. 20:14:58 <Benmc> Hi guys, just a bit late 20:15:11 <wilcal> Yuo 20:15:12 <tarazed> Hi Ben 20:15:13 <DavidWHodgins> The impact will vary from one boot to the next. 20:15:14 <wilcal> yup 20:15:23 <wilcal> You got it David 20:15:23 <MageiaTJ> So far wilcal is the only one who's seen it. That means it's probably hardware-specific. 20:15:31 <wilcal> It is 20:15:33 <DavidWHodgins> The order processes are killed will differ each time. 20:15:48 <tarazed> Well, I shall try it later. 20:15:54 <wilcal> Never happens in a Vbox client or on my other Intel/nvidia platform 20:16:11 <wilcal> It is really distructive 20:16:12 <kekePower> could it be faulty hw? 20:16:17 <Zeke> I have a problem that sometimes I also get the HD light very hi.. and everything gets stuck 20:16:18 <wilcal> all the other themes work just fine 20:16:26 <DavidWHodgins> #action Add to errata warning not to use oxygen theme with plasma with some intel graphics 20:16:28 <wilcal> I've been using it all morning 20:16:46 <Zeke> I have to reboot most of the time. 20:16:52 <wilcal> The hardware works perfectly with M6.1 20:16:55 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Mind updating the errata? Include which graphics card you're using. 20:17:00 <kekePower> wilcal: okay 20:17:14 <Zeke> I also have Intel hardware btw 20:17:31 <wilcal> DON't USE Oxygen Theme 20:17:41 <MageiaTJ> Many of us do. Intel hardware is very common. 20:17:43 <wilcal> It's really ugly 20:17:47 <Zeke> ok.. 20:17:49 <DavidWHodgins> Actually rather then saying don't use it, add "Be aware of", as we need to track down which graphic cards/drivers are affected. 20:17:58 <wilcal> The intel platform I test on is extremely generic 20:18:23 <DavidWHodgins> My system has amd graphics, so is not impacted. 20:19:10 <DavidWHodgins> So, last call. Anyone have a blocking issue for the beta 2 iso images? 20:19:12 <Benmc> amd, intel and Nvidia here. havent noticed it on Plasma / intel 20:19:24 <hviaene> Yes 20:19:28 <wilcal> Intel Core i5-4460 Haswell Quad-Core 3.2GHz LGA 115, Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H LGA 1150 Intel B85 chipset 20:19:36 <wilcal> Integrated Graphics Processor - Intel HD Graphics support, Audito chipset - Realtek ALC892, 7.1 channels 20:19:47 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: What issue? 20:19:48 <wilcal> Corsair Vengeance 8GB ( 2 x 4GB ) 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 20:19:58 <MageiaTJ> Herman, you have a blocking issue? 20:20:18 <hviaene> As mentioned above, my old Intel based wo'nt boot unless I force te vesa driver on it. 20:20:28 <MageiaTJ> (Too slow on the keyboard...) 20:20:50 <DavidWHodgins> That's an errata item for beta 2. Could be a blocking issue for beta 3. 20:21:00 <wilcal> Where is the M7 errata page? 20:21:06 <hviaene> OK 20:21:10 <Benmc> what driver? Herman 20:21:34 <hviaene> Intel 810 it is marked in MCC 20:21:50 <MageiaTJ> hviane: Is it that it won't boot the isos, or that it won't boot the installed system? 20:22:24 <wilcal> I got it https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_7_Errata 20:22:32 <hviaene> It does not boot the installed system 20:22:50 <Benmc> must be something your hardware specific. as all my Intel stuff is 810, Legacy and UEFI 20:23:16 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: Which bug report? 20:23:29 <MageiaTJ> I have that problem with Plasma on an old Radeon card. Had it with Mageia 6, too. 20:23:40 <hviaene> Let me look 20:25:20 <hviaene> I don''t think I eecorded a new bug (yet), I think I added to another one. 20:25:23 <Benmc> wilcal: that wiki-page needs editing as the last entry is no longer valid 20:25:45 <hviaene> If you want, I'l file a new bug on it tomorrow 20:26:16 <DavidWHodgins> Please do. 20:26:32 <wilcal> Ok 20:27:07 <DavidWHodgins> I'll inform sysadmins and council then, that we are approving beta 2 for release 20:27:23 <hviaene> At your orders, sir :-) 20:27:25 <Benmc> ok! 20:27:29 <DavidWHodgins> #action Inform sysadmins and council then, that we are approving beta 2 for release 20:27:55 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: sounds good! 20:28:11 <DavidWHodgins> Atellier too, so they can get a blog post, etc., ready 20:28:17 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any questions or problems 20:29:56 <kekePower> Looks like I have to push another update for Kodi, Cauldron and mga6. bug 24400 20:29:58 <[mbot`> Bug: ["kodi ship it's own bundled certificate store", 'NEW', 'Stig-Ørjan Smelror'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24400 20:30:08 <DavidWHodgins> The mythtv and nokia updates need specific hardware 20:30:11 <DavidWHodgins> kekePower: Ok 20:30:21 <DavidWHodgins> That one's pretty easy to test 20:30:55 <kekePower> I talked to Solbu and am going to try to remove the cert first. 20:31:07 <wilcal> is that the big libreoffice update I heard about? 20:31:21 <wilcal> It was in the tech news last week 20:31:27 <DavidWHodgins> None of the other updates look particulary difficult. The php one was already pushed, the bug report is still open only due to another bug, which hasn't been assigned to qa yet. 20:32:13 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: I doubt it, as it's a fix for a specific security issue. Haven't looked at it to be sure though. 20:32:50 <MageiaTJ> Brian, you OKed the Libreoffice update for 32-bit. Any reason you didn't for 64-bit? 20:33:01 <DavidWHodgins> Any specific questions about the updates? 20:33:18 <wilcal> not from me 20:33:24 <hviaene> No 20:33:46 <MageiaTJ> Oh, yeah. Brian left, didn't he? 20:33:54 <DavidWHodgins> That just leaves ... 20:33:56 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 20:34:15 <hviaene> Not from me 20:34:18 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else from me 20:34:29 <Benmc> nada here 20:34:33 <wilcal> It snowed in Las Vegas Nevada today 20:34:34 <MageiaTJ> I'm good. 20:34:38 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then 20:34:41 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 20:34:44 <DavidWHodgins> 4 20:34:45 <DavidWHodgins> 3 20:34:46 <wilcal> bye all 20:34:46 <hviaene> G' night all 20:34:47 <DavidWHodgins> 2 20:34:49 <DavidWHodgins> 1 20:34:49 <MageiaTJ> Raining here. 20:34:53 <tarazed> Bye folks 20:35:10 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone. Great work on the iso testing. 20:35:16 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting