20:04:19 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:04:19 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jan 31 20:04:19 2019 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04:19 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:04:23 <MageiaTJ> Yes. "Feels" colder when it isn't, though 20:04:42 <wilcal> Hello all for another qa meeting 20:04:53 <kekePower> A few days ago we had clear skies and -18c 20:05:03 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:05:09 <wilcal> anyone new here today? 20:05:46 <wilcal> fwiw it's nicely comfortable here in Sin CIty USA 20:06:33 <wilcal> Lets move to the main topic today 20:06:34 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 2, New Status & Testing 20:06:52 <wilcal> So Martin released new CI's last night 20:07:06 <MageiaTJ> I've only done one install so far, but it looks OK. 20:07:33 <wilcal> I have a successful UEFI install on real Intel hardware and had no problems with the Plasma desktop 20:07:52 <wilcal> No problems with the basic system 20:08:01 <wilcal> Hi bri 20:08:17 <wilcal> we're talking about the new CI's of M7 20:08:20 <bri_an> Hi Wilcal 20:08:57 <MageiaTJ> I saw some flickering on an nvidia340 system using nouveau, but it was about the same as I saw with MGA 6 Plasma. 20:09:12 <MageiaTJ> Switching to Xrender cleared it up. 20:09:55 <wilcal> so initial look it's pretty clean 20:09:58 <hviaene> Can someone post the solution again to force the installation of the desktop586 insteaddofthen usual 32-bit desktop 20:10:12 <wilcal> please file bugs using 7beta2 in keywords 20:10:24 <wilcal> komposer still is broken 20:10:52 <Benmc> thats at least 3 bugs from me so far 20:10:57 <wilcal> I have a question for all on how LibreOffice works 20:11:30 <MageiaTJ> hviane: I don't remember how to do that with the CI. 20:11:48 <Benmc> wilcal. ok? 20:12:19 <wilcal> So drag either the writer or the calc icon from the menu to the desktop 20:12:30 <wilcal> That works ok 20:12:42 <wilcal> We're good with that process right? 20:12:52 <MageiaTJ> Yes. 20:13:08 <wilcal> So now we have a Writer icon on the desktop 20:13:08 <Benmc> not a function I use, but yep 20:13:20 <wilcal> also it's a link 20:13:38 <bri_an> ok all make sense 20:13:42 <tarazed> Mine is in the panel on Mate 20:13:59 <Benmc> guess this is in Plasma? 20:14:00 <wilcal> Now simply right button clock on either icon and rename it to lets say "calc" 20:14:11 <wilcal> Yes but I think it's everywhere 20:14:34 <wilcal> the click on the icon to launch lets say calc 20:14:42 <wilcal> the app blows up 20:14:58 <Benmc> what, smoke and flames and everything? 20:15:00 <wilcal> A whole bunch of code gets displayed in a window 20:15:38 <wilcal> sometimes locks the whole shebang up and you've got to do a ctrl-backspace to get out of it 20:15:46 <wilcal> give it a try 20:16:03 <wilcal> Should'nt do that right? 20:16:05 <tarazed> Just did the rename and it launched OK - LO writer -> word processor 20:16:36 <wilcal> It's ok in M6 but seems not ok in M7 20:16:45 <tarazed> Ahh. 20:16:47 <Benmc> this real h/w or vb? 20:16:58 <wilcal> I don't think this is limited to just Writer 20:17:06 <wilcal> all platforms Ben 20:17:42 <wilcal> I'll generate a basic bug and lets see who else sees it 20:19:05 <bri_an> that sounds interesting. That was on Plasma? 20:19:18 <wilcal> So it shouldn't do this right. You should be able to rename an icon on the desktop 20:19:38 <Benmc> its opening in kwrite? 20:19:40 <bri_an> yes - a user should be able to name a link anyway they want 20:19:43 <wilcal> Yes, on Plasma but I think it does the same thing on Mate 20:20:42 <Benmc> works for me 20:20:45 <bri_an> but they have to keep the original reference the same. Anything else will break stuff 20:20:53 <Benmc> opens writer 20:21:11 <Benmc> plasma desktop 20:21:19 <wilcal> THis also does not work: libreoffice --calc /home/wilcal/test/file.ods 20:21:27 <hviaene> I justtried it, noproblem at all 20:21:53 <wilcal> anyway so we agree that one should be able to rename a desktop icon and the app should launch normally 20:21:58 <bri_an> I wonder if you somehow renamed the original object? 20:22:11 <tarazed> I just tried it in Cauldron Mate and it was OK here too. 20:22:22 <Benmc> did come up with a warning fiorst tho, do you trust this programme 20:22:45 <tarazed> Not here though. 20:22:52 <hviaene> yes I saw that too 20:23:40 <MageiaTJ> I just tried it, and when I renamed it suddenly became identified as a text document. Opened with Kwrite. 20:23:40 <wilcal> Anyway I'll generate the bug and define it there 20:23:57 <wilcal> EXACTLY MageiaT 20:24:01 <wilcal> That's the problem 20:24:26 <wilcal> Something fishy here 20:24:35 <tarazed> Definitely. 20:25:06 <wilcal> And I don't think it's just with Libre apps 20:25:07 <bri_an> hmm when you renamed, I bet you broke the suffix reference. So, may have renamed the original object? 20:26:40 <wilcal> Anyway thanks for the help and a little confirmation here 20:26:45 <wilcal> so I'll create the bug 20:26:46 <hviaene> wilcal, did you use the renae operation? I always do such things via "Propeties". 20:26:53 <hviaene> rename 20:27:06 <hviaene> Properties 20:27:18 <wilcal> Oooo maybe that's it. I just right click on the icon and you can rename it there 20:27:22 <wilcal> not in the properties 20:27:45 <tarazed> i used rename 20:28:04 <wilcal> It's a pretty basic function 20:29:09 <wilcal> Any other standouts in M7 Beta 2 20:29:09 <hviaene> even with rename the shortcut works OK here 20:29:38 <wilcal> works on some platforms and not on others 20:30:50 <wilcal> in the properties you can change the command to launch the app with a file and that does not seem to work either 20:30:54 <hviaene> As soon as this meeting is over, I'll do a Plasma - MATE 64-bit installation 20:31:12 <wilcal> go for it 20:31:59 <wilcal> also my working install of M7 had about 450 updates today 20:32:03 <tarazed> Yes - I have just finished doing that on this machine. 20:32:21 <wilcal> everything went fine 20:33:47 <wilcal> So lets move on 20:33:49 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 20:34:18 <wilcal> List is down to one item 20:34:37 <wilcal> The Vbox update went through here without a problem 20:34:44 <wilcal> I always worry about that one 20:35:23 <MageiaTJ> Good job on the testing, Len and Herman. 20:35:31 <wilcal> Our heros 20:35:39 <tarazed> I had to drop gitolite - not getting anywhere after two days - before the update. 20:36:02 <MageiaTJ> James Kerr and PC_LX deserve credit, too. 20:36:05 <wilcal> If it installs clean they push it on 20:36:25 <wilcal> We've a great crew working on update 20:36:26 <tarazed> I guess so 20:36:29 <wilcal> updates 20:36:44 <tarazed> clean install 20:36:52 <wilcal> There's a kernel update lurking around the corner 20:37:06 <wilcal> It's already in the testing_updates but not posted yet 20:37:13 <tarazed> Who is doing the kernels now? 20:37:29 <wilcal> That I don't know 20:37:44 <wilcal> It's good that someone will take that away from tmb 20:38:29 <wilcal> Anything else in updates 20:39:39 <wilcal> Lets move on 20:39:40 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 20:39:57 <MageiaTJ> Yes. Team elections 20:40:15 <tarazed> Looks like a landslide 20:40:38 <wilcal> Team, council and Board elections 20:40:53 <wilcal> Who's in charge? :-)) 20:40:54 <kekePower> I've posted on #mageia-dev about kernels, but haven't gotten any response 20:40:59 <kekePower> yet 20:41:21 <wilcal> Somebody'll pick it up 20:41:47 <MageiaTJ> Dave posted that nominations will be accepted until Sunday. So far, the current team have all thrown hats into the ring. Anyone else who wants to should do so, soon. 20:41:56 <kekePower> running 4.20.6 on my machines now, compiled from the works of tmb 20:42:27 <MageiaTJ> Dave's post was about QA. 20:42:37 <wilcal> Is the process of generating these kernals a complex process? 20:42:48 <kekePower> wilcal: Yes and no 20:43:05 <kekePower> Yes, because I don't know how tmb picked patches to include 20:43:21 <kekePower> No, because I've been compiling kernels since 1996 20:43:48 <wilcal> Seem like something someone could put on their Resume' 20:45:28 <wilcal> Anything else? 20:45:43 <kekePower> regarding kompozer 20:45:57 <wilcal> Oh ya that's still broke as of today 20:46:00 <kekePower> if working only using the keyboard, it should work fine 20:46:27 <kekePower> I may propose to drop it since it's basically dead upstream 20:46:31 <wilcal> Yes, seems like a mouse over thing 20:46:56 <wilcal> but it's the only wysisywig html editor we have 20:47:10 <kekePower> that's why I'm also searching for a replacement 20:47:22 <kekePower> just found this https://github.com/summernote/summernote 20:47:23 <[mbot> [ GitHub - summernote/summernote: Super simple WYSIWYG editor ] 20:47:24 <wilcal> A replacement would be great 20:47:32 <kekePower> will take a look at it one of these days 20:47:54 <wilcal> Does it already work on M6? 20:48:15 <kekePower> we don't have it in our repos 20:48:26 <wilcal> Let's talk about it next week 20:48:38 <wilcal> I'll see if I can get it to work here 20:48:44 <kekePower> but as a side-note, seamonkey comes with a wysiwyg 20:49:22 <wilcal> I'll give that a try too 20:49:40 <wilcal> anything else 20:50:51 <wilcal> Then it's count down time 20:50:55 <wilcal> thanks all for being here 20:50:57 <hviaene> Not here, g'night all 20:51:01 <wilcal> T-5 20:51:06 <wilcal> T-4 20:51:10 <wilcal> T-3 20:51:13 <tarazed> Bye everybody 20:51:14 <wilcal> T-2 20:51:16 <wilcal> bye all 20:51:19 <wilcal> T-1 20:51:36 <wilcal> #endmeeting