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20:02:47 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:02:55 <wilcal> Anyone new here today
20:03:10 <wilcal> Hi rin
20:03:13 <rindolf> hi all
20:03:37 <Benmc> cant see any new hands raised....
20:03:47 <wilcal> Maybe just one subject today
20:04:10 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 2, Status & Testing
20:04:44 <wilcal> As I have been doing I try a netinstall of M7 to real hardware today. Just an hour or so ago
20:04:48 <rindolf> py3.7!
20:05:09 <wilcal> No go the repo is in a rapid rate of change
20:05:40 <wilcal> I see a lot of python changes
20:06:03 <wilcal> Anyone have any infor on the status of M7 today
20:07:39 <wilcal> Two outstanding blockers are:
20:07:42 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070
20:07:44 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ]
20:07:56 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24060
20:07:58 <[mbot> [ 24060 – Qt 5.12 & Plasma 5.14.4 & KF 5.53 update causes Plasma desktop screen to flicker when OpenGL compositing background is used (when using intel or nouveau video drivers) ]
20:08:57 <wilcal> There is a workaround by modifying kwinrc and that worked for me when I had a running version of M7
20:09:14 <wilcal> Installable version that is
20:09:54 <wilcal> Martin is not going to generate any new isos until this issue(s) as fixed
20:11:10 <wilcal> Only encouraging thing is there are a LOT of updates to the M7 repo
20:11:20 <wilcal> So people are working on it
20:11:27 <Benmc> upgrade still fails with conflict if  libyui7-ncurses is installed, ie Isodumper. bug 23858
20:11:29 <[mbot> Bug: ['upgrading Mg6 to Mga7(cauldron) with lib(64)yui7-ncurses package fails with conflict', 'NEW', 'Angelo Naselli'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23858
20:13:21 <wilcal> So I don't think QA can do much on M7 until these issues are addressed
20:14:05 <wilcal> I will continue to try new netinstalls. Probably another this weekend
20:14:22 <wilcal> Update from the last isos is probably futile
20:14:51 <Benmc> you also need quite a bit of spare space or yo may get a " 0 bytes in / "  and install failed :" package xxxx needs 3Mb "
20:15:20 <wilcal> gracious
20:15:39 <wilcal> And M7 was doing so well :-(
20:15:58 <wilcal> Lets move on. Short meeting today
20:16:00 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:16:01 <kekePower> M7 _is_ doing well
20:16:07 <wilcal> SHort list
20:16:57 <kekePower> Benmc: Have you commented on that bug for libyui about your issues?
20:16:58 <wilcal> I should break out my USB TVtuner and try that mythtv thing
20:17:53 <Benmc> kekePower: not yet, upgrae was yesterday, and time is limited
20:17:56 <hviaene> I skip server updates on 32 bit, most of them are out of bounds fo my test laptop
20:18:22 <wilcal> Many thanks to all for working the list. I've been a bit under the weather lately feeling better in the last few days
20:20:04 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:20:05 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:20:10 <wilcal> short meeting today
20:20:24 <wilcal> anything anyone wants to talk about
20:20:32 <Benmc> kekePower: done (but you already know)
20:20:42 <kekePower> :-)
20:21:18 <wilcal> Keep working what you can. I will continue to work M7 until it gets well again
20:21:21 <kekePower> thanks for tacling rdesktop in so many ways :-)
20:21:58 <kekePower> I've only used if to connect to win7
20:22:49 <wilcal> It's been a long long time since I've tried to install Mageia on a Win system
20:22:58 <wilcal> does that still kinda work?
20:23:10 <Benmc> yep, from dvd anyway
20:23:29 <hviaene> I've done that on my Lenovo
20:23:52 <Benmc> can be done from virtual box too
20:23:54 <hviaene> and that friom USB stck
20:24:40 <wilcal> OOoo then I should try that in a Vbox client
20:24:58 <wilcal> My lappy is really get'n old and needs to be replaced
20:25:03 <Benmc> Selling point for Mageia, dont know of any other distros that install can be started from Windows
20:25:18 <wilcal> interesting
20:25:22 <hviaene> Up to a point that grub gets confused by too many booting partitions
20:25:45 <wilcal> I would only have two the Win and Mageia
20:25:50 <kekePower> also remember to try encrypting your partitions
20:26:21 <wilcal> if the laptop has a 500GB drive all of which is taken up by win how does Mageia squeeze in there?
20:26:29 <Benmc> typical 11 partitions for me
20:26:34 <kekePower> ref bug 24119
20:26:36 <[mbot> Bug: ['update-grub2 fails with /usr/sbin/grub2-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of ‘/dev/mapper/crypt_sda6’', 'NEW', 'Base system maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24119
20:26:42 <hviaene> Never ventued into encrypting
20:27:40 <wilcal> I've tried encripting using Mageia a couple times but it's been awhile
20:28:14 <kekePower> I'm guessing having /home encrypted won't see this bug, but with /, yes
20:30:14 <wilcal> Anything else
20:30:15 <hviaene> wilcal: can I send you a mail on that Gb disk question?
20:30:29 <hviaene> 500Gb
20:30:34 <wilcal> sure feel free to e-mail me anytime
20:30:41 <wilcal> wilcal.int@gmail.com
20:31:05 <wilcal> I'm considering purchasing another Dell Laptop this year
20:32:30 <wilcal> FWIW Dell had no problem with still warranting a laptop even if I erased the Win install. The hardware was still warrantied
20:32:47 <Benmc> I quite like my used toshiba, just saying (not uefi)
20:33:16 <bri_an> I have a l640 that is pretty decent
20:33:29 <Bequimao> kekePower: I have tested beta 1 with encryption. No problems then.
20:33:51 <wilcal> Encrypt then entire drive or just the /home directory?
20:34:07 <kekePower> Bequimao: The issue arose when I tried to update the kernel
20:34:48 <kekePower> wilcal: in my bug report I had / encrypted with no separate /home
20:34:54 <Bequimao> with encrypted root. Certainly there where several kernel updates.
20:35:35 <kekePower> Bequimao: Please update the bug report. There is a regression between b1 and b2 then.
20:36:35 <Bequimao> Unfortunately the partions are gone ... I will start another test to confirm.
20:36:42 <kekePower> thanks :-)
20:37:05 <wilcal> It's been raining like crazy in Sin City USA the last few days
20:37:42 <kekePower> here around Oslo as well. frozen rain (see snow)
20:38:11 <wilcal> I can see snow just never gets down to the Vegas Valley floor
20:38:24 <Bequimao> 35 degrees, no rain since about a week. Brazil, Minas Gerais.
20:39:10 <wilcal> ANything else
20:39:38 <hviaene> not from me
20:39:40 <wilcal> Thanks all for joining this short meeting
20:39:44 <kekePower> Bequimao: That's because you have summer now :P
20:39:48 <hviaene> Bye
20:39:57 <kekePower> until next time mates
20:40:01 <wilcal> Hopefully we'll see some movement on M7 before out next meeting
20:40:07 <wilcal> tanks all for being here
20:40:11 <wilcal> countdown time
20:40:14 <wilcal> T-5
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20:40:45 <wilcal> #endmeeting