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20:03:11 <wilcal> hello and welcome to this weeks qa meeting
20:03:36 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:03:47 <wilcal> Anyone new here today
20:04:26 <wilcal> No one responds
20:04:40 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 2, Status & Testing.
20:04:51 <bri_an> that should wake people up
20:04:56 <kekePower> hhe
20:05:06 <wilcal> So per  my e-mail to the QA list today M7 has a significant challange
20:06:12 <kekePower> py3 packages are being built by the dozen
20:06:40 <bri_an> yes - I think that kind of wiped out my LibreOffice suite as well as some other stuff.
20:06:45 <wilcal> Yes, I saw that today
20:06:59 <bri_an> As I accepted the changes then tried to reinstall libreoffice without success
20:07:02 <kekePower> LO was rebuilt 3 days ago
20:07:14 <bri_an> ah - haven't tried the latest then
20:07:27 <wilcal> My single M7 UEFI hardware install survives but I didn't try libreoffice
20:07:46 <kekePower> I*ve successfully updated one of my machines, but it has a very minimal install
20:07:55 <bri_an> I hope that's fixed.  I was waiting on fixes and a new set of isos
20:08:01 <wilcal> two bugs I referenced in todays message:
20:08:09 <kekePower> new iso's are impossible atm
20:08:12 <kekePower> I think
20:08:28 <bri_an> that's fair, then I'll see about a a VM install
20:08:39 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24060
20:08:41 <[mbot> [ 24060 – Qt 5.12 & Plasma 5.14.4 & KF 5.53 update causes Plasma desktop screen to flicker when OpenGL compositing background is used (when using intel or nouveau video drivers) ]
20:08:53 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070
20:08:55 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ]
20:09:10 <bri_an> yes
20:09:24 <wilcal> First question here is should these two bugs remain apart or should they be combined?
20:09:46 <bri_an> they seem to be related - just my opinion
20:10:00 <wilcal> Last week I asked that a bug be generated. But these two existed
20:10:20 <wilcal> So we can agree that these bugs define the main problem(s) with M7?
20:11:38 <bri_an> those are definitely show stoppers
20:12:34 <bri_an> it would be nice to get the RTL driver fix for the my wifi cards, but not as critical
20:13:07 <wilcal> Following that can the Mageia team fix the problem or is it totally external?
20:13:32 <bri_an> works in 6.1 not in 7.
20:14:38 <wilcal> I understand it's a workaround not a fix
20:15:35 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070#c32
20:15:37 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ]
20:15:38 <bri_an> so we wait on information concerning 24060/70 at this point.  It needs to be fixed in the install.
20:15:58 <wilcal> so my comment 32 defines the workaround and it works just fine here
20:16:30 <wilcal> does that workaround detrementally effect the preformance of M7?
20:16:32 <bri_an> so now defining the trigger even for the work around and the install.  Was the code dropped from 6?
20:16:35 <bri_an> to 7?
20:16:41 <wilcal> Yes
20:17:06 <wilcal> I don't know. I am not worthy to answer such a technical question
20:17:25 <wilcal> my concern is that the workaround detrimentally effects other things
20:18:15 <bri_an> but it seemed to be in 6 before
20:19:03 <bri_an> or was it and now we have a new kernel causing the issue?
20:19:19 <kekePower> isn't Plasma relying more and more on modern hardware features?
20:20:08 <wilcal> Lots of questions we can't answer here
20:20:32 <wilcal> I believe people are working hard to fix this issue and get M7 release
20:20:35 <wilcal> released
20:21:32 <wilcal> Last meeting tmb indicated he had issues with "QT" and kinda knew we'd have to fix this issue eventually
20:21:34 <bri_an> at the moment we wait on that fix.
20:22:20 <wilcal> Can we agree that the workaround defined in my comment 32 in 24070 is sufficiant to continue testing M7?
20:22:33 <bri_an> yes
20:22:45 <wilcal> Many many thanks bri_an
20:23:06 <bri_an> we can test the rest of the m7.  We just need a solution before rc
20:23:21 <wilcal> There was a huge update to pearl in the last days so the whole thing is a big unstable at this point
20:24:14 <bri_an> I noticed ;-)  Is there anyway to get a status on that being stable on the qa list?
20:24:22 <wilcal> For the record I don't want Martin generating new isos until we get past this
20:24:32 <bri_an> #agreed
20:24:43 <wilcal> I fall back to installs using netinstall
20:25:39 <wilcal> There was an md5sum error in the m7 repo this morning today so I was unable to do a new install before this meeting
20:26:01 <wilcal> I will try again Saturday
20:27:27 <wilcal> People reading the notes of this meeting please feel free to put comments on the QA mailing list
20:27:44 <wilcal> lets move on
20:27:45 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
20:28:27 <wilcal> The good work of people have kept this in control. Many thanks
20:28:42 <wilcal> Only thing to say here is to keep up the good work
20:28:44 <bri_an> yes - I came back and was surprised by the workdown
20:29:12 <wilcal> Freaking flash player again
20:29:31 <bri_an> Any Mac fans out there?  Looks like netatalk needs a mac OS client
20:29:42 <bri_an> yes - websites still using it
20:31:23 <wilcal> anything on the list that will give us problems
20:32:34 <wilcal> Lets move on then
20:32:35 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:32:41 <bri_an> nothing here
20:32:41 <Bequimao> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22564 spice-vdagent
20:32:43 <[mbot> [ 22564 – spice-vdagent new security issue CVE-2017-15108 ]
20:33:09 <wilcal> Problem with that app Beq?
20:33:23 <Bequimao> I am travelling now and need a wired connection for my VMs to work.
20:35:09 <Bequimao> So I cannot update my KVM/Qemu VMs
20:36:16 <wilcal> Anything else?
20:36:52 <Bequimao> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23370 yum-utils
20:36:54 <[mbot> [ 23370 – yum-utils new security issue CVE-2018-10897 ]
20:37:34 <Bequimao> yum is obsolete and replaced with dnf. The issue is standing there for months now.
20:37:35 <wilcal> That's in a hold right now
20:38:19 <wilcal> Could you post that comment in the bug. Lets see if you can clear that one off as obsolete
20:38:43 <Bequimao> Yes. I will.
20:38:50 <wilcal> Thanks
20:39:28 <wilcal> Anything else
20:40:04 <bri_an> have a great week everyone!
20:40:26 <wilcal> Many many thanks to all for your thoughts on M7. It'll al get fixed
20:40:32 <wilcal> Count down time
20:40:37 <wilcal> T-5
20:40:52 <wilcal> T-4
20:40:59 <wilcal> T-3
20:41:04 <wilcal> T-2
20:41:11 <wilcal> T-1
20:41:16 <wilcal> #endmeeting