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20:02:34 <wilcal> Welcome everyone for being here
20:02:54 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:02:59 <wilcal> Anyone new here
20:03:27 <Benmc> "crickets"
20:03:33 <wilcal> No hands are raised
20:03:43 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 1, Status & Testing. Is How's it going?
20:04:05 <wilcal> Ok as everyone knows an Atomic Bomb went off inside M7 a couple weeks ago
20:04:31 <wilcal> A huge number of updates have come down the pipe
20:04:47 <Benmc> qt and plasma update
20:04:57 <wilcal> I just completed a netinstall to a Vbox client and everything went well
20:05:16 <Benmc> should be a Mate one too soon
20:05:30 <wilcal> So I'm confident that I can install to real hardware and that will also be successful
20:05:46 <MageiaTJ> Does that Intel driver problem affect vbox?
20:06:03 <wilcal> Vbox uses a Virtual Intel graphics driver
20:06:29 <wilcal> But the test platform use is very Intel center of the road
20:06:56 <wilcal> So I will post that result on the mailing list
20:07:21 <wilcal> I still see one major release blocking bug
20:07:56 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23863
20:07:59 <[mbot> [ 23863 – Timing of the nfs mount not working? ]
20:08:28 <wilcal> I have to manually mount the nfs shares every time on every platform
20:08:43 <wilcal> We have seen this in the past
20:09:03 <Benmc> hello tarazed
20:09:21 <wilcal> We're not there yet but we're back on track to success
20:09:27 <tarazed> Hi Ben.  Happy New Year everybody..
20:09:45 <wilcal> Martin should release new ISOs soon I suspect
20:09:53 <wilcal> Happy New Years to all
20:10:36 <wilcal> So we're kind of in a holding pattern till the new isos are released
20:10:46 <Benmc> jan 4 here, recovered from New years now
20:11:33 <Benmc> has anyone trie the Lives in with persistence?
20:11:34 <MageiaTJ> wilcal:Holding pattern is a familiar place.
20:11:53 <wilcal> There are still a lot of M7 updates every day
20:12:04 <tarazed> No - leaving that for the next round.
20:12:42 <Benmc> you do need the cauldron version of Isodumper
20:13:22 <tarazed> Noted.
20:14:07 <Benmc> it has been updated to enable "persistence"
20:14:42 <wilcal> anything else on M7?
20:15:41 <wilcal> Hello Son
20:15:53 <wilcal> do you have any thoughts on the status of M7?
20:17:19 <wilcal> Ok so lets move on
20:17:22 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:17:38 <MageiaTJ> List is growing.
20:18:08 <wilcal> Yes, with no isos in M7 I/we should work that list as best we can
20:18:18 <wilcal> anything there that looks daunting
20:18:47 <tarazed> It is good to see people who REALLY know what they are doing mixing in.
20:19:05 <MageiaTJ> A number of things that I don't know enough about to be daunted or not.
20:19:17 <tarazed> ditto
20:20:00 <wilcal> update without error, mention that in the bug and push
20:21:05 <MageiaTJ> OK, I'll validate the samba update after the meeting. James Kerr worked on that one.
20:21:21 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan
20:21:32 <wilcal> anything else on bugs
20:22:31 <rindolf> hi all
20:22:42 <wilcal> Hi rin
20:22:47 <wilcal> Lets back up a little
20:22:55 <tarazed> A good new year to you Shlomi
20:22:59 <wilcal> Anything you want to say on M7 testing?
20:23:07 <rindolf> tarazed: thanks
20:23:14 <wilcal> I did a netinstall this morning and all went well
20:25:11 <kekePower> hit a bit of a snag today. see bug 24119
20:25:13 <[mbot> Bug: ['update-grub2 fails with /usr/sbin/grub2-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of ‘/dev/mapper/crypt_sda6’.', 'NEW', 'Mageia Bug Squad'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24119
20:25:29 <kekePower> encrypted root partition
20:26:56 <wilcal> IMO in order to properly test 7 right now you have to start with a blank drive and do a netinstall.
20:27:18 <wilcal> Updating a previous install will only introduce nasty gremlins
20:27:33 <kekePower> and also test encrypting either root or /home or both
20:29:58 <wilcal> I've never tried to encrypt a Mageia drive
20:30:09 <MageiaTJ> Just changed my M7 laptop from the math.princeton mirror to distrib-coffee. 44 updates were waiting.
20:30:48 <wilcal> Yes, i switched over to mirrors.kernel.org and that resonded nicely to rsync
20:31:32 <wilcal> math.princeton mirror is down for some reason
20:31:45 <kekePower> TJ, I think kernel.org is faster than coffee
20:32:03 <wilcal> Yes, it is.
20:32:24 <wilcal> Note: For a very long time I have kept a copy of the repo locally
20:32:37 <wilcal> Right now I have both M6 & M7
20:32:44 <MageiaTJ> I find kernel.org to be annoying with Cauldron. They sync TOO frequently, always when I want to get my updates.
20:33:14 <kekePower> about once an hour, I think
20:33:41 <wilcal> So my local repo has about 500GB and 232500 files
20:34:26 <wilcal> coffee is in France and you'll experience long ping times there
20:34:39 <wilcal> If your here in the States
20:35:04 <MageiaTJ> Well, my Internet service is slow, anyway. I'd not notice the difference.
20:35:32 <wilcal> I always use a local repo just because things like mirrors.kernel.org are so dynamic
20:35:34 <kekePower> isn't coffee a tier 1 mirror?
20:35:53 <wilcal> If your here in the States it's still coming across the pond
20:36:32 <wilcal> In California, and now Sin City USA Coffee is ok by kernel is best
20:36:33 <Benmc> Tj, try mine. you cant get any further away 9maybe)
20:36:49 <kekePower> MageiaTJ: If you want, you can use my mirror. I sync mga6 and 7 every day. Cauldron more than once a day.
20:36:52 <Benmc> ooops, (maybe)
20:36:56 <MageiaTJ> I'll get along until Princeton comes back.
20:37:20 <kekePower> heh
20:37:21 <wilcal> Your using the Repo directly right?
20:37:37 <wilcal> not a local copy
20:38:21 <wilcal> sometimes I do an rsync and when finished to it again
20:38:26 <MageiaTJ> Yes.
20:38:53 <wilcal> Especially in the last week or so with M7 100's of changes
20:39:06 <wilcal> I also take into consideration what the time of the day is in Europe
20:39:39 <wilcal> Evenings and weekends in Europe tend to make the repo more active
20:39:43 <MageiaTJ> Princeton is in New Jersey, less than 500 miles away. Practically in my back yard.
20:40:42 <wilcal> I've never done a traceroute on the Princeton repo
20:40:52 <wilcal> The kernel site is in San Jose
20:40:59 <kekePower> *humming* I would walk 500 miles...
20:41:08 <wilcal> or was
20:42:05 <wilcal> anyway anything else on this otherwise on to anything else
20:42:22 <wilcal> we're kinda there anyway
20:42:28 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:42:36 <MageiaTJ> Well, the university is in NJ. I'm assuming the site is close by.
20:43:18 <wilcal> Sooooo many people switching to cloud services where a server is is a crap shoot. Especially with AWS
20:43:44 <wilcal> AWS is a real cloud it's everywhere
20:43:58 <kekePower> and blocking Sun
20:44:17 <wilcal> AWS dominates about 90% of the Cloud Servers market
20:44:41 <wilcal> I have my own account. Costs me 25 cents per month
20:45:48 <Benmc> Splashed out on a Linx 7 tablet. (yet to arrive)
20:46:04 <wilcal> Christmas gift to yourself
20:46:22 <Benmc> Maybe, Comes with Windows 8.1 and a 32bit EFI. so maybe not
20:46:35 <wilcal> that'll be a challange
20:46:51 <Benmc> See if I can install the Classical Install onto it as the CI is now EFI enabled.
20:47:14 <wilcal> My Christmas Gift to myself was a 4-bay Qnap NAS loaded with four 4TB Seagate drives
20:47:25 <wilcal> that thing is amazing
20:47:28 <kekePower> I almost got my hands on a Dell Poweredge. Would've cost me around USD75
20:47:36 <MageiaTJ> I bought myself a vintage fishing reel. Made in West Germany. Cost me $20.
20:47:41 <wilcal> Nice
20:48:09 <MageiaTJ> A reel of that quality, if you could even find one, would cost more than $300 today.
20:48:28 <wilcal> Ok anything else otherwise its countdown time
20:48:47 <wilcal> try to work those bugs
20:48:52 <wilcal> T-5
20:48:57 <wilcal> Thanks all for coming
20:48:58 <kekePower> Happy and prosperous new year to you all
20:49:12 <wilcal> And a successful M7 release soon
20:49:14 <wilcal> T-4
20:49:30 <wilcal> T-3
20:49:32 <rindolf> kekePower: thanks
20:49:35 <wilcal> T-2
20:49:37 <kekePower> that's thanks to you lot :-)
20:49:44 <wilcal> bye all
20:49:48 <wilcal> T-1
20:49:53 <wilcal> #endmeeting