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20:03:17 <wilcal> welcome to the weekly QA meeting
20:03:31 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:03:37 <wilcal> anyone new here today?
20:04:21 <Benmc> cant see any new hands raised
20:04:29 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 1, Status & Testing. Serious Intel driver problem
20:04:40 <wilcal> so lets get to the one major issue here
20:04:55 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070
20:04:58 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ]
20:05:07 <bri_an> yes
20:05:18 <wilcal> Busted all my i915 installs
20:05:43 <wilcal> My Intel/nvidia platform with a netinstall is just fine
20:05:46 <kekePower> tmb: will r1345301 help fix these issues?
20:05:47 <bri_an> have you tried building from a netinstall with all udpates?
20:06:05 <wilcal> I just finished a netinstall to my Intel i915 plaform
20:06:20 <bri_an> that includes all of those plasma updates correct?
20:06:26 <wilcal> the install went fine then booted to a competely broken desktop
20:06:32 <bri_an> ohh
20:06:40 <wilcal> It appears to be only Plasma
20:06:47 <wilcal> Mate is fine
20:07:08 <wilcal> And M7 was going so well :-))
20:07:16 <bri_an> so we wait for fixes and try again.
20:07:18 <wilcal> Xfce is fine
20:07:24 <Benmc> cauldron isnt "fixed", so I would expect this sort of thing.
20:07:25 <bri_an> After that we can count on an update from Martin?
20:07:35 <wilcal> And when it breaks it really breaks really bad
20:07:49 <kekePower> that's why we're cooking :)
20:07:50 <bri_an> 507 updates - no surprise
20:07:53 <wilcal> Ya this is going to need new isos
20:07:54 <bri_an> yes
20:08:00 <tmb> kekePower, you tell me... I dont use plasma...
20:08:04 <Benmc> there is that disclaimer on the downloads page
20:08:26 <kekePower> tmb: I just saw the commit and thought it might have some fix for those affected
20:08:38 <wilcal> The funky virtual keyboard instead of the log in page is a trip
20:08:52 <kekePower> wilcal: that has been fixed afaik
20:09:07 <wilcal> rats that was soooooo koool
20:09:20 <bri_an> tmb:  any news on the realtek wifi?
20:09:22 <tmb> for those affected, does the x11-driver-video-intel-2.99.917-50.mga7 change anything ?
20:09:58 <tmb> bri_an, sorry, I have not had time to poke that yet :/
20:10:05 <bri_an> tmb:  no issues
20:10:38 <MageiaTJ> Better late than never, I guess...
20:10:45 <wilcal> Hi Mag
20:10:51 <kekePower> hi TJ
20:10:58 <wilcal> we're talking about you know what
20:11:15 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070
20:11:17 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ]
20:11:29 <MageiaTJ> Yeah, I see that.
20:11:33 <wilcal> Blew up one of my installs :-)
20:12:31 <wilcal> so far it seems to only effect Plasma/Intel Graphics
20:12:38 <MageiaTJ> I almost panicked when I first saw it.
20:12:51 <wilcal> Mate in a Vbox client is uneffected
20:13:20 <wilcal> My Intel/Nvidia platform installs from a netinstall and works just fine
20:13:21 <tmb> Also the big QT/Plasma was expected to break somewhwere as that's usually the case with theese big updates... that's why we wanted to get it in beta cycle, so we dont have to do it at RC stage or post mga7 release
20:13:30 <MageiaTJ> Change to the "modesetting" driver, and it goes away for me.
20:14:50 <MageiaTJ> tmb: Yep. It hasn't been so long since the "Grand Update" that I have forgotten.
20:15:36 <MageiaTJ> I suppose we should be happy it isn't worse.
20:16:09 <bri_an> it's the right time to do the big update.  Glad that choice was made
20:16:21 <wilcal> I think it also effects an M7 Vbox Plasma client as its simulates the Intel graphics
20:16:38 <tmb> There are some known issues with QT stack upstream too, but since it's a LTS we wanted it as it will be supported for ~ 3 years, so longer than Mga7 is :)
20:17:26 <wilcal> So status for now is "working on it"
20:17:37 <tmb> yep
20:17:49 <kekePower> One reviewer of DW called Mageia "a boring distro" :-)
20:18:01 <wilcal> I won't be updating anything here. It'll all be new netinstalls to a blank drive
20:18:23 <Benmc> kekePower: the best sort - breakage wise
20:18:29 <tmb> Martinw will probably be building beta2 isos from next saturday...
20:18:37 <MageiaTJ> I kinda like "boring" in my OS.
20:19:16 <kekePower> one thing I'd like you to test is converting images from a recent iPhone using Imagemagick. I've added support for the HEIF format in tainted.
20:19:35 <wilcal> kool
20:20:03 <wilcal> For my serious video capture I use a Sony Sport camera.
20:21:33 <wilcal> So we'll wait for a posting to the bug to start testing again
20:22:43 <wilcal> so lets move on. Should be short meeting today
20:22:44 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:22:59 <wilcal> Some things in there I've never seen before
20:23:49 <wilcal> I've started looking at graphicsmagick
20:24:56 <wilcal> Anything in there that's going to cause a problem
20:25:41 <kekePower> wilcal: not that I know of
20:26:15 <wilcal> so lets move on
20:26:17 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:26:43 <wilcal> I have nothing else
20:27:36 <wilcal> If there's nothing else let's count it down. Have a Happy and Safe New Years everyone
20:27:40 <Benmc> not here  -appart from hope you guys had a Happy Chrismas
20:27:42 <wilcal> T-5
20:27:45 <MageiaTJ> I'd like to wish everybody a Happy New Year.
20:27:54 <wilcal> T-4
20:28:05 <wilcal> T-3
20:28:11 <bri_an> yes Happy New Year everyone
20:28:14 <wilcal> T-2
20:28:21 <wilcal> T-1
20:28:26 <wilcal> #endmeeting