20:02:54 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:02:54 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Dec 27 20:02:54 2018 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02:54 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:17 <wilcal> welcome to the weekly QA meeting 20:03:31 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:03:37 <wilcal> anyone new here today? 20:04:21 <Benmc> cant see any new hands raised 20:04:29 <wilcal> #topic M7 Beta 1, Status & Testing. Serious Intel driver problem 20:04:40 <wilcal> so lets get to the one major issue here 20:04:55 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070 20:04:58 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ] 20:05:07 <bri_an> yes 20:05:18 <wilcal> Busted all my i915 installs 20:05:43 <wilcal> My Intel/nvidia platform with a netinstall is just fine 20:05:46 <kekePower> tmb: will r1345301 help fix these issues? 20:05:47 <bri_an> have you tried building from a netinstall with all udpates? 20:06:05 <wilcal> I just finished a netinstall to my Intel i915 plaform 20:06:20 <bri_an> that includes all of those plasma updates correct? 20:06:26 <wilcal> the install went fine then booted to a competely broken desktop 20:06:32 <bri_an> ohh 20:06:40 <wilcal> It appears to be only Plasma 20:06:47 <wilcal> Mate is fine 20:07:08 <wilcal> And M7 was going so well :-)) 20:07:16 <bri_an> so we wait for fixes and try again. 20:07:18 <wilcal> Xfce is fine 20:07:24 <Benmc> cauldron isnt "fixed", so I would expect this sort of thing. 20:07:25 <bri_an> After that we can count on an update from Martin? 20:07:35 <wilcal> And when it breaks it really breaks really bad 20:07:49 <kekePower> that's why we're cooking :) 20:07:50 <bri_an> 507 updates - no surprise 20:07:53 <wilcal> Ya this is going to need new isos 20:07:54 <bri_an> yes 20:08:00 <tmb> kekePower, you tell me... I dont use plasma... 20:08:04 <Benmc> there is that disclaimer on the downloads page 20:08:26 <kekePower> tmb: I just saw the commit and thought it might have some fix for those affected 20:08:38 <wilcal> The funky virtual keyboard instead of the log in page is a trip 20:08:52 <kekePower> wilcal: that has been fixed afaik 20:09:07 <wilcal> rats that was soooooo koool 20:09:20 <bri_an> tmb: any news on the realtek wifi? 20:09:22 <tmb> for those affected, does the x11-driver-video-intel-2.99.917-50.mga7 change anything ? 20:09:58 <tmb> bri_an, sorry, I have not had time to poke that yet :/ 20:10:05 <bri_an> tmb: no issues 20:10:38 <MageiaTJ> Better late than never, I guess... 20:10:45 <wilcal> Hi Mag 20:10:51 <kekePower> hi TJ 20:10:58 <wilcal> we're talking about you know what 20:11:15 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24070 20:11:17 <[mbot> [ 24070 – After a 507-package update on 25 December, Plasma desktop display is unusable. ] 20:11:29 <MageiaTJ> Yeah, I see that. 20:11:33 <wilcal> Blew up one of my installs :-) 20:12:31 <wilcal> so far it seems to only effect Plasma/Intel Graphics 20:12:38 <MageiaTJ> I almost panicked when I first saw it. 20:12:51 <wilcal> Mate in a Vbox client is uneffected 20:13:20 <wilcal> My Intel/Nvidia platform installs from a netinstall and works just fine 20:13:21 <tmb> Also the big QT/Plasma was expected to break somewhwere as that's usually the case with theese big updates... that's why we wanted to get it in beta cycle, so we dont have to do it at RC stage or post mga7 release 20:13:30 <MageiaTJ> Change to the "modesetting" driver, and it goes away for me. 20:14:50 <MageiaTJ> tmb: Yep. It hasn't been so long since the "Grand Update" that I have forgotten. 20:15:36 <MageiaTJ> I suppose we should be happy it isn't worse. 20:16:09 <bri_an> it's the right time to do the big update. Glad that choice was made 20:16:21 <wilcal> I think it also effects an M7 Vbox Plasma client as its simulates the Intel graphics 20:16:38 <tmb> There are some known issues with QT stack upstream too, but since it's a LTS we wanted it as it will be supported for ~ 3 years, so longer than Mga7 is :) 20:17:26 <wilcal> So status for now is "working on it" 20:17:37 <tmb> yep 20:17:49 <kekePower> One reviewer of DW called Mageia "a boring distro" :-) 20:18:01 <wilcal> I won't be updating anything here. It'll all be new netinstalls to a blank drive 20:18:23 <Benmc> kekePower: the best sort - breakage wise 20:18:29 <tmb> Martinw will probably be building beta2 isos from next saturday... 20:18:37 <MageiaTJ> I kinda like "boring" in my OS. 20:19:16 <kekePower> one thing I'd like you to test is converting images from a recent iPhone using Imagemagick. I've added support for the HEIF format in tainted. 20:19:35 <wilcal> kool 20:20:03 <wilcal> For my serious video capture I use a Sony Sport camera. 20:21:33 <wilcal> So we'll wait for a posting to the bug to start testing again 20:22:43 <wilcal> so lets move on. Should be short meeting today 20:22:44 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports 20:22:59 <wilcal> Some things in there I've never seen before 20:23:49 <wilcal> I've started looking at graphicsmagick 20:24:56 <wilcal> Anything in there that's going to cause a problem 20:25:41 <kekePower> wilcal: not that I know of 20:26:15 <wilcal> so lets move on 20:26:17 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 20:26:43 <wilcal> I have nothing else 20:27:36 <wilcal> If there's nothing else let's count it down. Have a Happy and Safe New Years everyone 20:27:40 <Benmc> not here -appart from hope you guys had a Happy Chrismas 20:27:42 <wilcal> T-5 20:27:45 <MageiaTJ> I'd like to wish everybody a Happy New Year. 20:27:54 <wilcal> T-4 20:28:05 <wilcal> T-3 20:28:11 <bri_an> yes Happy New Year everyone 20:28:14 <wilcal> T-2 20:28:21 <wilcal> T-1 20:28:26 <wilcal> #endmeeting