20:03:44 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:03:44 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Nov 29 20:03:44 2018 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03:44 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:51 <wilcal> AHh how bout that it works 20:04:05 <tarazed> Yippee! 20:04:11 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:04:20 <wilcal> anyone new here today 20:05:18 <wilcal> No one responds so lets move to something exciting 20:05:19 <MageiaTJ> Doesn't look like it. 20:05:37 <wilcal> #topic My how we doing? 20:06:02 <wilcal> I've had a few days on another project but what I have done it looks pretty good 20:06:19 <wilcal> I've created some bugs and added my name to a few 20:06:25 <tarazed> Agreed. nvidia now works properly. 20:06:51 <tarazed> Some people have had trouble with MageiaWelcome - not here though. 20:07:29 <wilcal> Overall this Beta has maybe been the best I've seen. It actually works quite well 20:07:31 <Benmc> Lives definitely look good - still some issues with CIs . Cinnamon 20:07:49 <tarazed> Must try that. 20:07:53 <rindolf> well, for some reason the classic isos install very slowly on vbox here while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manjaro_Linux installs fine 20:08:09 <Benmc> both install from CI and if upgrading from Mga6 20:08:39 <tarazed> Ahh. Upgrades. I had trouble there. 20:08:41 <wilcal> But we're all getting to functional desktops 20:08:48 <MageiaTJ> Classic i586 isos aren't working on older Intel processors. 20:09:24 <MageiaTJ> They won't even do the first boot after install. 20:10:03 <MageiaTJ> Live Xfce is OK, but install of Xfce from the classic is a no go. 20:10:03 <Benmc> install requires addition of " cinnamon-screensaver" after install, otherwise just the waiting to load mouse symbol, 20:10:11 <tarazed> rindolf: Could that be a mirror problem? 20:10:30 <wilcal> Ya, I've a low level campaign that I know I will loose and that is to abandon the i586 platform 20:10:33 <rindolf> tarazed: no 20:10:45 <tarazed> rindolf: forget that - stupid thought. 20:10:54 <MageiaTJ> So far, it's been seen on Pentium M and 32-bit Pentium 4. 20:10:55 <rindolf> tarazed: well, i downloaded a local .iso 20:10:57 <Benmc> Tj, have you tried booting in recovery 20:11:20 <kekePower> a lot of work has gone into the base system lately. perhaps these changes will be for the better in the next round of ISO's 20:11:56 <wilcal> If you havne't noticed I have shifted my testing of M7 to UEFI installs 20:12:06 <MageiaTJ> Not yet. I did install from the live, which uses the desktop586 kernel, then install the desktop kernel, which is the one the classic uses, and that worked OK. 20:12:14 <wilcal> I will do that in as much testing as I can 20:12:25 <bri_an> any luck on uefi? My attempt failed 20:12:44 <tarazed> rindolf: is the slow installation repeatable? 20:12:53 <bri_an> but I think I tried cinnamon 20:13:10 <MageiaTJ> I'll be back. Got to go outside and deliver a phone message to my brother. 20:13:28 <Benmc> bri_an: Lives seem ok for me, as do the x86_64 CI 20:13:38 <bri_an> ok 20:13:58 <bri_an> another install I seemed to have wifi issues. Anyone else? I posted to risepad 20:14:16 <wilcal> We are on the cusp of the Holiday Season so things typically slow down in a week or so 20:14:35 <tarazed> They already have 20:14:56 <wilcal> So no chance of this being released before the end of the year 20:14:57 <Bequimao> bri_an: I have always wifi issues. Did you try networkmanager? 20:15:22 <bri_an> benquimao: yeah, no luck 20:16:30 <bri_an> went back to mga6 - clean wifi, easy install 20:16:58 <wilcal> Wifi in general of one specific platform 20:17:21 <wilcal> I can try one of the Live's on my laptop 20:17:53 <wilcal> Also has a bug been raised for it 20:18:32 <bri_an> laptop wifi worked, it was specific, to a usb wifi device 20:18:45 <wilcal> Ah 20:19:16 <bri_an> finding it 20:19:18 <rindolf> tarazed: yes 20:19:57 <bri_an> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express 20:20:36 <Bequimao> I am somewhat disappointed that networkmanager still is not default in Mga7. 20:21:10 <wilcal> Atheros AR9285 on my laptop seems to be pretty generic 20:21:18 <bri_an> Bequimao: I may be confused by networkmanager versus Network then. 20:21:49 <bri_an> should I try installing that and see if it fixes things? 20:22:59 <Bequimao> Mageia net_applet never worked on my 2 notebooks with atheros cards. No problem with networkmanager. 20:23:21 <wilcal> brb 20:24:15 <bri_an> interesting - works on mga6. I will try it on next m7 build 20:26:30 <MageiaTJ> Back. 20:26:52 <wilcal> Me too 20:27:13 <wilcal> So anything else on M7 20:27:25 <wilcal> Other then we're kinda waiting for the next isos 20:27:40 <Bequimao> Kde Plasma did not improve. 20:28:24 <MageiaTJ> Bequimao: I have two different Atheros cards. Bothe "just work" with the net applaet. 20:29:04 <wilcal> Lets move on 20:29:07 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:29:08 <bri_an> ok 20:29:40 <wilcal> LIst is short and after being distracted here for the last week or so I see there's some kernel testing an Vbox in there 20:30:48 <MageiaTJ> The kernel is a backport, probably to support newer hardware. 20:31:17 <wilcal> Vbox update is minor so I should get through that in the next days 20:31:31 <wilcal> Get me back into testing Mageia stuff 20:31:36 <MageiaTJ> Works OK for me so far. 20:31:51 <wilcal> I've been distracted and will explain in the next section 20:33:03 <wilcal> Nextcloud a complete mystery to me 20:33:15 <wilcal> anything else 20:33:29 <kekePower> wilcal: topic is "Who's new?" 20:33:41 <Benmc> indeed 20:34:15 <wilcal> hello keke :-)) 20:34:44 <MageiaTJ> Bug 23541 has been there a long time, and it's a critical update. 20:34:50 <kekePower> wilcal: Nextcloud is wonderful. I've started using it and I love it 20:35:23 <wilcal> Could you test: 20:35:25 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23290 20:35:27 <[mbot> [ 23290 – Our nextcloud-client 2.3.2 have known bugs and is old. 2.5.0 is out. ] 20:35:40 <bri_an> I use it sometimes, mainly to feed tablets, phones. 20:35:45 <wilcal> Kool 20:36:13 <tarazed> Three of the updates have been languishing in the grey zone for weeks. 20:36:13 <bri_an> :kekepower - go for it. I'm pretty tied up 20:36:24 <wilcal> thanks 20:36:31 <kekePower> I use the Android apps to chat with my son, listen to music and put in notes while on the run 20:36:38 <tarazed> python-charm is ready to go but there is some doubt about where it belongs. 20:37:06 <kekePower> tarazed: Yes, some belive it should be in core while others think it should be in nonfree 20:37:10 <kekePower> it's in core in Cauldron 20:37:56 <MageiaTJ> Lewis took a look at apache-mod_perl, but didn't get anywhere. 20:38:10 <tarazed> Is it a new package as far as mga6 is concerned? 20:38:16 <MageiaTJ> I know less than nothing of apache. 20:38:53 <kekePower> tarazed: I think so. neoclust or akien, I think, asked me to backport it to mga6. 20:39:09 <tarazed> Thanks Stig 20:39:51 <wilcal> one of those if it installs without error move it on? 20:40:16 <kekePower> tarazed: r1228298 | kekepower | 2018-05-11 11:31:47 +0200 (Fri, 11 May 2018) | 1 line 20:40:18 <kekePower> tarazed: Backport from Cauldron 20:41:51 <wilcal> anything else on updates 20:42:09 <bri_an> nada 20:43:05 <tarazed> I might have a look at apache_perl-mod - there might be a PoC - if not send it on 20:43:11 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 20:43:23 <wilcal> It's raining in Sin City USA 20:43:29 <Benmc> no......... 20:43:36 <wilcal> Only happens a couple times a year 20:43:46 <Benmc> ! 20:43:53 <bri_an> so the roads are skating rinks then 20:43:58 <MageiaTJ> Been snowing here for three days. Happens every year. :) 20:44:28 <wilcal> Temp here is 53F 20:44:40 <wilcal> So I share 20:44:43 <wilcal> Along with my shift to UEFI I have purchased a new Qnap 4-bay NAS and have been hard at work getting that running on my all Mageia LAN. 20:44:57 <wilcal> A Christmas gift to myself 20:45:04 <bri_an> oh cool - keep us updated on how it does 20:45:31 <wilcal> Got it here on Sunday and it's fully functional today with 3x 1TB drives 20:45:43 <wilcal> 4x Seagate 4TB drives on the way 20:45:57 <wilcal> Seagate Irongate NAS drives 20:46:08 <wilcal> 4 4TB HD's really end up being something around 9TB available to the LAN 20:46:27 <bri_an> nice 20:46:29 <wilcal> Takes more then a few hours to understand it 20:46:31 <Benmc> that much overhead? 20:46:41 <wilcal> If you do it right yes 20:46:59 <bri_an> raid-5 20:47:00 <bri_an> ? 20:47:01 <wilcal> also I've come to believe 4 drives is probably not enough 20:47:16 <wilcal> Yes the three 1TB drive are running RAID-5 20:47:22 <kekePower> wilcal: I have a nas with 2x2TB drives :O 20:47:27 <wilcal> This is one slick device 20:47:31 <MageiaTJ> Can you ever have TOO many drives??? 20:47:52 <bri_an> lol - not when you qa test 20:47:53 <wilcal> I was told Qnap integrates with Linux very well and it does 20:47:58 <kekePower> I love the ReadyNAS because I can ssh into it and maintain it to my liking 20:48:25 <wilcal> The NFS is a little confusing to get going but once I get it going it's great 20:48:37 <kekePower> only issue I have with it is that is has only 100Mbps ethernet 20:48:51 <wilcal> The DLNA is pretty easy to get going. Every device here sees it 20:49:16 <wilcal> This Qnap box has two 1GB connections 20:49:22 <bri_an> sweet - yeah 100Mbs - start backup and walk away 20:49:40 <bri_an> that works are they used in tandem or fail-back? 20:50:02 <wilcal> One very very nice feature is USB ports for external backup of it 20:50:05 <kekePower> hehe. a friend of mine thought his nas was very slow and couldn't understand why 20:50:23 <kekePower> it turned out the cable was kind of broken and only gave him 10Mbps 20:50:47 <wilcal> This gets upwards of 100Mbs easily 20:51:17 <kekePower> I'm lucky if I see 12MB/s 20:52:09 <wilcal> Throw all your mulitmedia files at it an my two HDTV's see it, my Android phone sees it, my Raspberry Pi OSMC box sees it and all my Mageia boxes see it 20:52:42 <wilcal> FTP or rsync to it's NFS shares 20:52:58 <bri_an> sweet it supports rsync 20:53:17 <wilcal> Yes 20:53:28 <wilcal> i think it's Debian inside 20:54:25 <wilcal> The biggest challange it setting the directory permissions but once you figure that out everything sees it 20:55:09 <wilcal> anyway anything eles 20:56:09 <bri_an> I'll try networkmanager on my next build. Any anticipated new builds on m7? 20:57:02 <MageiaTJ> I'm already tired of moving snow, and winter isn't even here yet. 20:57:21 <wilcal> OMG 20:57:41 <wilcal> Time for count down 20:57:52 <wilcal> thanks all for coming keep up the good work 20:57:58 <wilcal> T-5 20:58:08 <wilcal> T-4 20:58:16 <wilcal> T-3 20:58:19 <wilcal> Bye all 20:58:24 <wilcal> T-2 20:58:28 <wilcal> T-1 20:58:33 <wilcal> #endmeeting