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20:03:51 <wilcal> AHh how bout that it works
20:04:05 <tarazed> Yippee!
20:04:11 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:04:20 <wilcal> anyone new here today
20:05:18 <wilcal> No one responds so lets move to something exciting
20:05:19 <MageiaTJ> Doesn't look like it.
20:05:37 <wilcal> #topic My how we doing?
20:06:02 <wilcal> I've had a few days on another project but what I have done it looks pretty good
20:06:19 <wilcal> I've created some bugs and added my name to a few
20:06:25 <tarazed> Agreed.  nvidia now works properly.
20:06:51 <tarazed> Some people have had trouble with MageiaWelcome - not here though.
20:07:29 <wilcal> Overall this Beta has maybe been the best I've seen. It actually works quite well
20:07:31 <Benmc> Lives definitely look good - still some issues with CIs . Cinnamon
20:07:49 <tarazed> Must try that.
20:07:53 <rindolf> well, for some reason the classic isos install very slowly on vbox here while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manjaro_Linux installs fine
20:08:09 <Benmc> both install from CI and if upgrading from Mga6
20:08:39 <tarazed> Ahh.  Upgrades.  I had trouble there.
20:08:41 <wilcal> But we're all getting to functional desktops
20:08:48 <MageiaTJ> Classic i586 isos aren't working on older Intel processors.
20:09:24 <MageiaTJ> They won't even do the first boot after install.
20:10:03 <MageiaTJ> Live Xfce is OK, but install of Xfce from the classic is a no go.
20:10:03 <Benmc> install requires addition of " cinnamon-screensaver" after install, otherwise just the waiting to load mouse symbol,
20:10:11 <tarazed> rindolf: Could that be a mirror problem?
20:10:30 <wilcal> Ya, I've a low level campaign that I know I will loose and that is to abandon the i586 platform
20:10:33 <rindolf> tarazed: no
20:10:45 <tarazed> rindolf: forget that - stupid thought.
20:10:54 <MageiaTJ> So far, it's been seen on Pentium M and 32-bit Pentium 4.
20:10:55 <rindolf> tarazed: well, i downloaded a local .iso
20:10:57 <Benmc> Tj, have you tried booting in recovery
20:11:20 <kekePower> a lot of work has gone into the base system lately. perhaps these changes will be for the better in the next round of ISO's
20:11:56 <wilcal> If you havne't noticed I have shifted my testing of M7 to UEFI installs
20:12:06 <MageiaTJ> Not yet. I did install from the live, which uses the desktop586 kernel, then install the desktop kernel, which is the one the classic uses, and that worked OK.
20:12:14 <wilcal> I will do that in as much testing as I can
20:12:25 <bri_an> any luck on uefi?  My attempt failed
20:12:44 <tarazed> rindolf: is the slow installation repeatable?
20:12:53 <bri_an> but I think I tried cinnamon
20:13:10 <MageiaTJ> I'll be back. Got to go outside and deliver a phone message to my brother.
20:13:28 <Benmc> bri_an: Lives seem ok for me, as do the x86_64 CI
20:13:38 <bri_an> ok
20:13:58 <bri_an> another install I seemed to have wifi issues.  Anyone else?  I posted to risepad
20:14:16 <wilcal> We are on the cusp of the Holiday Season so things typically slow down in a week or so
20:14:35 <tarazed> They already have
20:14:56 <wilcal> So no chance of this being released before the end of the year
20:14:57 <Bequimao> bri_an: I have always wifi issues. Did you try networkmanager?
20:15:22 <bri_an> benquimao:  yeah, no luck
20:16:30 <bri_an> went back to mga6 - clean wifi, easy install
20:16:58 <wilcal> Wifi in general of one specific platform
20:17:21 <wilcal> I can try one of the Live's on my laptop
20:17:53 <wilcal> Also has a bug been raised for it
20:18:32 <bri_an> laptop wifi worked, it was specific, to a usb wifi device
20:18:45 <wilcal> Ah
20:19:16 <bri_an> finding it
20:19:18 <rindolf> tarazed: yes
20:19:57 <bri_an> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express
20:20:36 <Bequimao> I am somewhat disappointed that networkmanager still is not default in Mga7.
20:21:10 <wilcal> Atheros AR9285 on my laptop seems to be pretty generic
20:21:18 <bri_an> Bequimao:  I may be confused by networkmanager versus Network then.
20:21:49 <bri_an> should I try installing that and see if it fixes things?
20:22:59 <Bequimao> Mageia net_applet never worked on my 2 notebooks with atheros cards. No problem with networkmanager.
20:23:21 <wilcal> brb
20:24:15 <bri_an> interesting - works on mga6.  I will try it on next m7 build
20:26:30 <MageiaTJ> Back.
20:26:52 <wilcal> Me too
20:27:13 <wilcal> So anything else on M7
20:27:25 <wilcal> Other then we're kinda waiting for the next isos
20:27:40 <Bequimao> Kde Plasma did not improve.
20:28:24 <MageiaTJ> Bequimao: I have two different Atheros cards. Bothe "just work" with the net applaet.
20:29:04 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:29:07 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:29:08 <bri_an> ok
20:29:40 <wilcal> LIst is short and after being distracted here for the last week or so I see there's some kernel testing an Vbox in there
20:30:48 <MageiaTJ> The kernel is a backport, probably to support newer hardware.
20:31:17 <wilcal> Vbox update is minor so I should get through that in the next days
20:31:31 <wilcal> Get me back into testing Mageia stuff
20:31:36 <MageiaTJ> Works OK for me so far.
20:31:51 <wilcal> I've been distracted and will explain in the next section
20:33:03 <wilcal> Nextcloud a complete mystery to me
20:33:15 <wilcal> anything else
20:33:29 <kekePower> wilcal: topic is "Who's new?"
20:33:41 <Benmc> indeed
20:34:15 <wilcal> hello keke :-))
20:34:44 <MageiaTJ> Bug 23541 has been there a long time, and it's a critical update.
20:34:50 <kekePower> wilcal: Nextcloud is wonderful. I've started using it and I love it
20:35:23 <wilcal> Could you test:
20:35:25 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23290
20:35:27 <[mbot> [ 23290 – Our nextcloud-client 2.3.2 have known bugs and is old. 2.5.0 is out. ]
20:35:40 <bri_an> I use it sometimes, mainly to feed tablets, phones.
20:35:45 <wilcal> Kool
20:36:13 <tarazed> Three of the updates have been languishing in the grey zone for weeks.
20:36:13 <bri_an> :kekepower - go for it.  I'm pretty tied up
20:36:24 <wilcal> thanks
20:36:31 <kekePower> I use the Android apps to chat with my son, listen to music and put in notes while on the run
20:36:38 <tarazed> python-charm is ready to go but there is some doubt about where it belongs.
20:37:06 <kekePower> tarazed: Yes, some belive it should be in core while others think it should be in nonfree
20:37:10 <kekePower> it's in core in Cauldron
20:37:56 <MageiaTJ> Lewis took a look at apache-mod_perl, but didn't get anywhere.
20:38:10 <tarazed> Is it a new package as far as mga6 is concerned?
20:38:16 <MageiaTJ> I know less than nothing of apache.
20:38:53 <kekePower> tarazed: I think so. neoclust or akien, I think, asked me to backport it to mga6.
20:39:09 <tarazed> Thanks Stig
20:39:51 <wilcal> one of those if it installs without error move it on?
20:40:16 <kekePower> tarazed: r1228298 | kekepower | 2018-05-11 11:31:47 +0200 (Fri, 11 May 2018) | 1 line
20:40:18 <kekePower> tarazed: Backport from Cauldron
20:41:51 <wilcal> anything else on updates
20:42:09 <bri_an> nada
20:43:05 <tarazed> I might have a look at apache_perl-mod - there might be a PoC - if not send it on
20:43:11 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:43:23 <wilcal> It's raining in Sin City USA
20:43:29 <Benmc> no.........
20:43:36 <wilcal> Only happens a couple times a year
20:43:46 <Benmc> !
20:43:53 <bri_an> so the roads are skating rinks then
20:43:58 <MageiaTJ> Been snowing here for three days. Happens every year. :)
20:44:28 <wilcal> Temp here is 53F
20:44:40 <wilcal> So I share
20:44:43 <wilcal> Along with my shift to UEFI I have purchased a new Qnap 4-bay NAS and have been hard at work getting that running on my all Mageia LAN.
20:44:57 <wilcal> A Christmas gift to myself
20:45:04 <bri_an> oh cool - keep us updated on how it does
20:45:31 <wilcal> Got it here on Sunday and it's fully functional today with 3x 1TB drives
20:45:43 <wilcal> 4x Seagate 4TB drives on the way
20:45:57 <wilcal> Seagate Irongate NAS drives
20:46:08 <wilcal> 4 4TB HD's really end up being something around 9TB available to the LAN
20:46:27 <bri_an> nice
20:46:29 <wilcal> Takes more then a few hours to understand it
20:46:31 <Benmc> that much overhead?
20:46:41 <wilcal> If you do it right yes
20:46:59 <bri_an> raid-5
20:47:00 <bri_an> ?
20:47:01 <wilcal> also I've come to believe 4 drives is probably not enough
20:47:16 <wilcal> Yes the three 1TB drive are running RAID-5
20:47:22 <kekePower> wilcal: I have a nas with 2x2TB drives :O
20:47:27 <wilcal> This is one slick device
20:47:31 <MageiaTJ> Can you ever have TOO many drives???
20:47:52 <bri_an> lol - not when you qa test
20:47:53 <wilcal> I was told Qnap integrates with Linux very well and it does
20:47:58 <kekePower> I love the ReadyNAS because I can ssh into it and maintain it to my liking
20:48:25 <wilcal> The NFS is a little confusing to get going but once I get it going it's great
20:48:37 <kekePower> only issue I have with it is that is has only 100Mbps ethernet
20:48:51 <wilcal> The DLNA is pretty easy to get going. Every device here sees it
20:49:16 <wilcal> This Qnap box has two 1GB connections
20:49:22 <bri_an> sweet - yeah 100Mbs - start backup and walk away
20:49:40 <bri_an> that works are they used in tandem or fail-back?
20:50:02 <wilcal> One very very nice feature is USB ports for external backup of it
20:50:05 <kekePower> hehe. a friend of mine thought his nas was very slow and couldn't understand why
20:50:23 <kekePower> it turned out the cable was kind of broken and only gave him 10Mbps
20:50:47 <wilcal> This gets upwards of 100Mbs easily
20:51:17 <kekePower> I'm lucky if I see 12MB/s
20:52:09 <wilcal> Throw all your mulitmedia files at it an my two HDTV's see it, my Android phone sees it, my Raspberry Pi OSMC box sees it and all my Mageia boxes see it
20:52:42 <wilcal> FTP or rsync to it's NFS shares
20:52:58 <bri_an> sweet it supports rsync
20:53:17 <wilcal> Yes
20:53:28 <wilcal> i think it's Debian inside
20:54:25 <wilcal> The biggest challange it setting the directory permissions but once you figure that out everything sees it
20:55:09 <wilcal> anyway anything eles
20:56:09 <bri_an> I'll try networkmanager on my next build.  Any anticipated new builds on m7?
20:57:02 <MageiaTJ> I'm already tired of moving snow, and winter isn't even here yet.
20:57:21 <wilcal> OMG
20:57:41 <wilcal> Time for count down
20:57:52 <wilcal> thanks all for coming keep up the good work
20:57:58 <wilcal> T-5
20:58:08 <wilcal> T-4
20:58:16 <wilcal> T-3
20:58:19 <wilcal> Bye all
20:58:24 <wilcal> T-2
20:58:28 <wilcal> T-1
20:58:33 <wilcal> #endmeeting