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19:02:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello
19:02:25 <DavidWHodgins> Welcome to another qa team irc meeting.
19:02:38 <wilcal> MeetBot still only works here?
19:02:47 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:02:50 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Yes
19:02:55 <wilcal> :-(
19:03:17 <Benmc> no new hands
19:03:21 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * M6.1 iso images are officially released
19:03:56 <Benmc> hiya
19:04:04 <DavidWHodgins> I've now get ktorrent seeding the 6.1 iso images, and they are available from the mirrors
19:04:17 <wilcal> Super deal
19:04:27 <wilcal> Finally
19:04:28 <DavidWHodgins> No leachers yet. Only two of us seeding so far
19:05:03 <Benmc> not yet on the blog
19:05:12 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone for all the work getting it out
19:05:27 <wilcal> So within 24-hours they'll be everywhere
19:05:36 <DavidWHodgins> Net yet. I've let atellier know they are now on the mirrors and torrents are available.
19:05:54 <wilcal> Biggest thing it turns resources loose on M7
19:06:10 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 7
19:06:41 <DavidWHodgins> Did my first test install of m7 yesterday using the netinstall nonfree iso
19:06:45 <wilcal> Any estimate on when netinstall will boot to a GUI?
19:06:53 <Benmc> yahoo
19:07:45 <DavidWHodgins> X didn't start. mingetty wasn't installed so no command line. After I got mingetty installed and enabled/started, it would not accept my password even though the same password works if I boot to run level 1
19:08:37 <Bequimao> Hi all! I cannot upgrade my cauldron install with # dnf upgrade because of multiple checksum errors since about 2 weeks.
19:08:54 <DavidWHodgins> So not much in the way of further testing at this time. Haven't checked to see if the mingetty problems have been reported. I'll do that later today or some time tomorrow.
19:09:35 <DavidWHodgins> Bequimao: That may be a result of the mass rebuild that was in progress.
19:09:58 <DavidWHodgins> The mass rebuild has now finished. Now the debugging of the build failures is in progress.
19:10:20 <Bequimao> urpmi --auto-update works. So something must be broken.
19:10:49 <DavidWHodgins> I still only use dnf when I'm actively testing it.
19:10:56 <mageian> Hi; late but I expected it on #mageia-qa
19:11:15 <Bequimao> I was told that # dnf and # urpmi use the same data or meta data.
19:12:00 <Benmc> sorry dave, was on the phone.  there is a bug report for the non gui start
19:13:19 <Benmc> bug#19871
19:13:33 <DavidWHodgins> Not quite. dnf uses data from repodata dir. urpmi uses the data from the media_info dir
19:13:58 <DavidWHodgins> It should be in sync as I understand it.
19:14:40 <Benmc> try again: Bug 19871 - Eliminate prefdm and use display manager service units directly
19:14:51 <Bequimao> DavidWHodgins: It is not.
19:15:14 <DavidWHodgins> Open a bug report, for the sysadmins
19:15:45 <Benmc> sorry folks, got to go.
19:15:56 <DavidWHodgins> Ok Benmc. Thanks for being here.
19:16:53 <mageian> Bye Benmc
19:17:01 <wilcal> Bye
19:17:04 <DavidWHodgins> The next steps for Mageia 7 will be for the council to set a schedule. We've already set a tenetive release date of new years eve.
19:17:32 <DavidWHodgins> We have to set the dates for version and release freeze
19:17:48 <wilcal> Comparing M6.1 to M7 any really big changes like KDE -> Plasma?
19:18:02 <DavidWHodgins> The version freeze date determines which versions of the packages will be included.
19:18:34 <DavidWHodgins> No really big changes planned for Mageia 7. It's intended to get a release out wih as close to up-to-date packages included as possible.
19:18:34 <mageian> Actually is there any progress on Optimus in MGA7?
19:19:01 <wilcal> More maintenance release then anything else
19:19:05 <rindolf> hi all
19:19:08 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Yes
19:19:14 <mageian> hi rindolf
19:19:15 <tarazed> Evening, Shlomi
19:19:26 <DavidWHodgins> mageian: I'm not familar with optimus, so I don't know.
19:20:09 <mageian> More and more those discrete GPUs are causing much of trouble on new laptops
19:20:38 <Luigi12> mingetty isn't used since Mageia 1, agetty is used under systemd
19:21:17 <DavidWHodgins> On my m6 system, "rpm -qa|grep getty" only shows mingetty
19:21:54 <Luigi12> agetty isn't its own package.  mingetty isn't needed
19:22:16 <Luigi12> agetty is part of util-linux
19:22:52 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Just checked another m6 system where there is no getty package installed. Guess the presense of mingetty on my main system is due to it having been upgraded from release to release
19:23:07 <Luigi12> yeah.  Not sure why we haven't dropped the mingetty package actually.
19:24:33 <DavidWHodgins> Found out systemctl --enable can not be run in run level 1, or a chroot env. Learned to use "systemd-nspawn -D /mountpoint" instead of chroot to be able to make changes to the system.
19:25:18 <DavidWHodgins> I'll retest later today to try and figure out why agetty is not working after a network install.
19:25:45 <DavidWHodgins> Any questions or comments on m7 at this point?
19:26:18 <mageian> not on my side
19:26:29 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any questions or problems
19:26:53 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Did you see my question about php-smarty version/mirror in bug 23592
19:26:55 <[mbot> Bug: ['php-smarty new security issue CVE-2018-13982', 'NEW', 'QA Team'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23592
19:28:46 <wilcal> Lemme look at what mirror I'm using hold a sec
19:29:14 <DavidWHodgins> The command urpmq --list-url should show it
19:29:21 <wilcal> mirror.math.princeton.edu
19:29:41 <wilcal> For some reason kernel.org was getting really really slow and i changed
19:29:48 <wilcal> so far it seems ok
19:30:02 <wilcal> Very good data rates
19:30:18 <Bequimao> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23370
19:30:20 <[mbot> [ 23370 – yum-utils new security issue CVE-2018-10897 ]
19:30:55 <wilcal> So that was my question for today. Status of phb-smarty
19:31:03 <DavidWHodgins> I've removed the oks then, as the version on that mirror does not match what Marc wrote to have been submitted.
19:31:08 <wilcal> php-smarty
19:31:23 <wilcal> Easy to test for me
19:31:42 <Bequimao> why is it there? I use dnf regularly. Of course I won't test yum. Never used yum anywhere.
19:31:44 <DavidWHodgins> The version that you tested still has the incorrect fix
19:31:49 <wilcal> ok
19:31:50 <tarazed> And the PoC works
19:33:25 <DavidWHodgins> Bequimao: Looking at the timestamps of the media info and repodata directories on princeton mirror for m6, they match, so it isn't that they are not being synced, just not being built properly
19:34:16 <Bequimao> DavidWHodgins: Thanks
19:34:19 <DavidWHodgins> Bequimao: Mageia is still a urpmi based distro with most of our tools such as rpmdrake relying on it. dnf was added to make it easier for people used to other distros
19:34:46 <Bequimao> So am I. Used to other distros.
19:35:01 <mageian> Actually there is a problem using DNF in mga6
19:35:20 <DavidWHodgins> mageian: That's what Bequimao just reported
19:35:49 <mageian> whenever i update the system with dnf, I try to make sure using urpmi and there are still updates; is that the reported problem? sorry..
19:36:15 <DavidWHodgins> Sorry, he was reporting the problem for cauldron, not for 6.
19:36:44 <DavidWHodgins> Are the same repos enabled for both?
19:37:09 <mageian> dnf and urpmi are not synced correctly
19:37:13 <DavidWHodgins> If you have the testing repos enabled for urpmi, but not for dnf, that would explain it.
19:37:31 <mageian> DavidWHodgins: yes they are
19:37:34 <Bequimao> mageian: There was probably the same problem in mga6 some week ago. Now it works here.
19:37:56 <mageian> I'll make sure to test again
19:38:06 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks.
19:38:56 <DavidWHodgins> Not a lot of updates to test remaining on the list this week. Let's try and get them cleared.
19:39:10 <Bequimao> mageian: You should use either urpmi or dnf. Using both leads to not reproducible problems.
19:40:05 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
19:40:07 <mageian> Bequimao: I would love to use only dnf, but I still do not trust it as it does not update the system as it should
19:40:40 <Bequimao> mageian: It does. At least in mga6-
19:41:24 <mageian> Bequimao: I'll try harder testing that
19:41:29 <DavidWHodgins> mageian: Probably best to post to the ml about the problem. If it can be confirmed, then open a bug report.
19:41:30 <wilcal> Oh New kernels are expected?
19:42:13 <DavidWHodgins> I saw today about a bug that caused kernel mem to be dumped to dmesg
19:43:03 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like tmb has left
19:43:10 <wilcal> Ya I saw something too so we kinda await for those
19:43:49 <DavidWHodgins> Guess we'll just have to wait and see. I see they are building according to https://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/
19:43:51 <[mbot> [ Build system status ]
19:44:19 <wilcal> ok so maybe by this weekend
19:44:42 <DavidWHodgins> Wait and see. :-) May just be tmb testing some more minor changes.
19:45:04 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time
19:45:09 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
19:45:12 <DavidWHodgins> 4
19:45:15 <DavidWHodgins> 3
19:45:15 <wilcal> bye all
19:45:18 <DavidWHodgins> 2
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19:45:21 <mageian> bye
19:45:33 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone. I'll post the links to the logs to the ml.
19:45:39 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting