19:08:11 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 19:08:11 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Tue Sep 11 19:08:11 2018 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:08:11 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:08:32 <DavidWHodgins> #chair lebarhon MageiaTJ 19:08:32 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MageiaTJ lebarhon 19:08:52 <DavidWHodgins> Do we have enough people around for a meeting? 19:09:10 <lebarhon> Andi is missing 19:09:22 <marja> papoteur: are you areound? 19:09:36 <marja> DavidWHodgins: I'm 50% here 19:09:48 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 19:09:49 <papoteur> yes 19:09:55 <marja> I saw wilcal, tmb, MageiaTJ 19:10:07 <MageiaTJ> I'm here - when not waiting on farmstand customers. 19:10:17 <marja> filip_: you're here, right? 19:10:33 <wilcal> The gangs all here 19:11:34 <papoteur> Hello 19:11:47 <DavidWHodgins> Suggestions for topics?. Perhaps Andi will show up later. 19:11:49 <filip_> o/ 19:11:54 <papoteur> neoclust: ? Pharaoh_Atem ? 19:12:04 <wilcal> For sure status of M6.1 19:12:20 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 6.1 status 19:13:02 <DavidWHodgins> There is a problem with the iso generation such that the iso images do not always have the latest version of a given package from the updates repo. 19:13:28 <marja> tmb: would it be possible to create Mageia 6.1 repositories with only the latest version of the packages, only for usage with bcd? 19:13:50 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: on classical installer, you mean 19:14:00 <DavidWHodgins> papoteur: Yes 19:14:37 <DavidWHodgins> I'm not sure if live can be affected too, though I haven't seen that. 19:14:38 <papoteur> What about skipping them? 19:15:15 <DavidWHodgins> We could do that, but I really don't like the idea of releasing live iso images only. 19:15:15 <papoteur> and having only Live media 19:15:27 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, nope, live medias use urpmi to get the latest packages, so its not affected... 19:16:01 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, its just that bcd is not designed for handling updates, it was only designed to build release media 19:16:35 <tmb> so bcd needs hints through the config files to get it right 19:16:43 <marja> tmb: would creating special newest-mga6-packages only repositories, only for usage with bcd, help? 19:17:03 <MageiaTJ> I don't like the idea of just releasing the Lives, either. It won't help those who still need to upgrade from MGA5. 19:17:16 <tmb> marja, yep 19:17:31 <marja> tmb: would anyone have time to do that? 19:18:03 <wilcal> Is this process not in place for M7? 19:18:39 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: M7 will not need it. It will use the release media only, not updates 19:18:45 <papoteur> wilcal: Martin just created drakclassical to replace bcd. 19:19:40 <papoteur> s/drakclassic 19:19:42 <papoteur> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Drakclassic 19:20:02 <papoteur> But it is not ready for Mageia 6 19:20:32 <papoteur> Or not provided for. 19:21:30 <DavidWHodgins> Also doesn't look like it supports grub legacy, which Mageia 6 iso images are required to support. 19:22:01 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: yes, that the reason 19:22:31 <tmb> yes, drakclassic is not designed for mga6 (and untested) so we would pretty much switch pne problem for another... 19:22:43 <tmb> *one problem... 19:22:55 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: why would be a release with only Live not be good? 19:23:42 <DavidWHodgins> It's fairly easy to produce a list of packages with the list trimmed to only have the latest version of a given package be included. The problem is with packages that have new names where both the old name and the new name are available 19:24:04 <papoteur> In which state are Live media for the moment? 19:25:13 <DavidWHodgins> As mgaapplet has been enabled and is working for upgrading from Mageia 5 to 6, I guess we could go with live only. That would acheive the primary purpose of Mageia 6.1, which is to allow installation on hardware that is not supported by the Mageia 6 iso images. 19:26:20 <DavidWHodgins> Does anyone object to dropping the classical installers for Mageia 6.1, and only releasing Live iso images? 19:26:29 <lebarhon> what about netinstall? 19:26:43 <filip_> DavidWHodgins, I like that reason 19:26:55 <marja> DavidWHodgins: what does neoclust think? 19:27:29 <papoteur> lebarhon: netinstall use always current repos, thus is not modified with 6.1 19:27:48 <DavidWHodgins> lebarhon: We should test and release that too. It's like the live iso images in that it uses urpmi rather then bcd, so should be ok. 19:27:50 <tmb> 6.1 netinstall isos are on the mirrors since Aug 18th, (but I haven't announced them in case they need to be updated again) 19:28:12 <DavidWHodgins> papoteur: It is modified to be able to boot on newer hardware. 19:28:44 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: OK. 19:29:23 <lebarhon> In a way, we have netinstall + live, it should be enough to reach Mga 7 19:29:30 <DavidWHodgins> That was the original reason for creating a 6.1 release. To allow installing Mageia 6 on hardware too new to boot with the Mageia 6 iso images. 19:30:04 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: I think it is the good way. 19:30:16 <DavidWHodgins> neoclust: Are you available? 19:31:37 <DavidWHodgins> Everyone ok with that then? Mageia 6.1 will only have live and netinstall iso images 19:31:59 <filip_> I am 19:32:12 <papoteur> OK 19:32:14 <marja> DavidWHodgins: unless neoclust is very motivated to make the 6.1 classical work 19:32:27 <filip_> but we should leave CL at 6 19:32:53 <MageiaTJ> It'll do. 19:32:55 <DavidWHodgins> CL ? 19:33:08 <tmb> filip_, we dont remove isos from mirrors, so they are there 19:33:19 <wilcal> I'm ok with that 19:33:36 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Classic. Yes. those will not be removed. 19:33:38 <wilcal> As long as the netinstall works I'm good 19:34:16 <DavidWHodgins> #info Decision taken that Magiea 6.1 release will include Live and Net install iso images only. 19:34:34 <MageiaTJ> We'll have to explain the difference in the various versions for those that download isos from the website. 19:34:41 <filip_> DavidWHodgins, and leave CI as is 19:34:46 <wilcal> Yes 19:34:48 <DavidWHodgins> Yes 19:35:01 <lebarhon> Do we have an idea if that decision can produce Mga7 sooner 19:35:19 <wilcal> I just did a CI and update Vbox install testing the latest kernel and it installs and updates just fine 19:35:20 <papoteur> Are the Live isos in the good shape? 19:35:41 <DavidWHodgins> We'll need to explain clearly that for new hardware, not supported by the Mageia 6 iso images, only the live 6.1 iso images (or net install) should be used. 19:35:46 <wilcal> 800+ updates 19:36:08 <DavidWHodgins> I've been focused on the classical first, so haven't reviewed them much yet. 19:36:08 <MageiaTJ> We've had several updates since Martin's original versions. 19:36:55 <DavidWHodgins> We'll review the status of the live and netinstall during this weeks qa meeting this Thursday. 19:37:01 <lebarhon> We should add a warning in the download webpage 19:37:13 <DavidWHodgins> Yes 19:37:30 <tmb> I think we should try to release Mga7 before the end of the year to be somewhat current with updated packages... 19:37:54 <filip_> tmb, +1 19:38:27 <filip_> lebarhon, I agree. Any idea of sentence formulation? 19:38:30 <DavidWHodgins> Let's get 6.1 out first, then confirm what we want to include in Mageia 7 before setting the dates for it. 19:38:32 <lebarhon> Mga 7 for fossdem 19:38:48 <filip_> lebarhon, ;) 19:38:55 <papoteur> :D 19:39:01 <lebarhon> filip_: ask Trish for that, she is better than me 19:39:17 <DavidWHodgins> When is fosdem? February? 19:39:23 <tmb> and a lot of spectre related security fixes are rolling in upstream low-level packages / compilers/... that would be a pain to fix in our "outdated" mga6 ... 19:39:35 <filip_> lebarhon, she's not around lately 19:40:04 <tmb> fosdem is first weekend of february usually 19:40:38 <lebarhon> 3 and 4 of feb 19:40:49 <lebarhon> sorry, it was last year 19:40:50 <filip_> sometimes we plan big chunks for new release and then we underdeliver. let's go simple this time. 19:40:50 <tmb> fosdem is 2-3 Feb 2019 19:41:18 <DavidWHodgins> Let's aim for two weeks from today to have 6.1 ready to release, with download pages ready to publish, with the warnings that for newer hardward, only the live or net install iso images should be used. 19:41:43 <filip_> DavidWHodgins, I agree 19:41:44 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Can we get a list of new hardware the 6.1 kernels support that 6.0 does not? 19:41:45 <papoteur> Fine 19:42:07 <tmb> yeah, I think mga7 should focus on new packages, and features only if they dont delay release 19:42:29 <DavidWHodgins> Don't need all newly supported hardware in that list, just the cpus 19:43:27 <DavidWHodgins> I agree m7 should be very little more than what is currently in cauldron 19:44:05 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, well, we overshot initial 6.1 target with 9 months, so there is not any point in talking much about "new kernels"... but they will install on pretty much any hw (but you need 4.17/18 to support latest radeon and intel gpus 19:44:32 <tmb> So I'm landing a 4.18 set in backports for those.... 19:45:13 <tmb> but I guess I can give a "short list" of the hw that should work... 19:45:14 <papoteur> tmb: thanks for this info 19:45:23 <DavidWHodgins> #info Target date for approval of Mageia 6.1 release is Tuesday, September 25th, 2018 19:45:35 <MageiaTJ> When is the next Plasma long-term release? Will we run into that before or after M7 is released? 19:45:36 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan 19:46:14 <wilcal> Ask me what the next issue should be :-)) 19:46:46 <DavidWHodgins> After 6.1 is out, we should confrim what versions of kde and gnome we intend to have have Mageia 7, then set our target release dates. 19:47:03 <DavidWHodgins> s /confrim/confirm/ 19:47:18 <filip_> sounds great 19:47:26 <wilcal> Pushing M7 before end of year would be a push 19:47:41 <wilcal> Maybe fosdem maybe 19:48:08 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed. Christmas/New Years is not a good target date. Fosdem should be ok. 19:48:14 <tmb> Gnome 3.30 is currently landing and will be the base if we release this year... 3.32 should land in march next year, but that might be a gtk4 beast, so I'd rather use 3.30 for next stable release 19:48:32 <MageiaTJ> Yeah, the last two releases both got bogged down in testing the isos. 19:48:55 <tmb> No, Xmas/NY is good target... then we might actually hit Fosdem :) 19:49:05 <DavidWHodgins> lol 19:49:24 <filip_> tmb, I agree :D 19:49:35 <papoteur> tmb :) 19:50:05 <filip_> less is more. or at least faster ;) 19:50:40 <DavidWHodgins> Let's leave the decisions on targets for M7 till a meeting after 6.1 is out, but accept that the quicker, the better. 19:51:01 <filip_> I agree 19:51:12 <tmb> yeah 19:51:30 <papoteur> Yep 19:51:39 <MageiaTJ> As long as it's ready... 19:51:42 <lebarhon> OK, don't we write some actions before going on? 19:53:16 <lebarhon> I think to one thing, with Live only for 6.1, we don't have all the DE 19:53:25 <DavidWHodgins> #action Have documentation and release announcements for Mageia 6.1 ready to publish as soon as release approved. Target date is Sept. 25th 19:54:20 <DavidWHodgins> lebarhon: People who want other then kde/gnome/xfce will have to use net install 19:54:29 <DavidWHodgins> Or wait for m7 19:54:57 <papoteur> Or update from 6.0 19:55:04 <lebarhon> that will be quick 19:56:05 <DavidWHodgins> #action Confirm versions of Gnome, KDE, etc., to be included for Mageia 7, if we target a release by Dec. 31st. 19:56:50 <DavidWHodgins> With the expectation that actual release will be sometime between new years and fosdem. :-) 19:57:08 <filip_> we have mga6 live xfce 19:57:26 <filip_> so there should also be 6.1 I guess 19:57:37 <DavidWHodgins> Yes 19:58:23 <DavidWHodgins> For 6.1 xfce we have both i586 and x86_64 19:58:36 <DavidWHodgins> Same with netinstall iso images 19:58:48 <DavidWHodgins> Next topic? 19:59:01 <lebarhon> ok 19:59:09 <lebarhon> There is the new board topic 19:59:14 <filip_> i586 DVD is rare among distros so it's a huge + 19:59:33 <wilcal> We need to officialize into the Council meeting log the status of M5 20:00:12 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12: Ready to stop producing updates for Mageia 5? 20:00:38 <filip_> wilcal, why? mga5 is EOL 20:00:59 <wilcal> That's not been officially noted in the Council log 20:01:31 <filip_> wilcal, but it was in a blog so .. 20:01:44 <DavidWHodgins> filip_: We extended support for it with limited updates due to spectre and friends coming so soon after eol, and the problems that existed upgrading 20:01:46 <marja> DavidWHodgins: could some QA testers test the mga6.1 network iso 20:01:57 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Yes 20:02:02 <marja> DavidWHodgins: thx 20:02:15 <wilcal> But I have said that all should stop 20:02:21 <tmb> So, basically.. I will lockdown mga5 now and wipe testing if no-one objects... ?? 20:02:22 <wilcal> It's EOL 20:02:36 <wilcal> make it official in the Council Log 20:02:38 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone object to ending all updates for Magiea 5 now? 20:02:45 <marja> Luigi12: see tmb's comment ^^^ 20:02:49 <wilcal> Thanks David 20:03:20 <filip_> I agree with EOL. 20:03:38 <wilcal> Agree here 20:03:52 <marja> me too, but I'm not against Luigi12 pushing some very last packages to 5 20:03:57 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: no objectionq 20:04:11 <wilcal> It really just makes it super stable and very usable 20:04:31 <filip_> marja, yeah we should respect his huge work 20:04:35 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Would be nice to be able to let qa people know it's ok to wipe out their Mageia 5 installs, to make room for m7 testing 20:04:51 <MageiaTJ> I'm good with EOL on M5. 20:04:55 <tmb> marja, well, every package pushed im mga5 could be a potential upgrade breaker to mga6 too, so its not so simple... 20:05:14 <marja> tmb: forgot about that :-/ 20:05:42 <filip_> are there many mga5 pckgs lately? 20:05:44 <DavidWHodgins> I'd like to officially issue a thanks to Luigi12 for his outstanding effort to keep Mageia 5 usable 20:05:51 <filip_> DavidWHodgins, +1! 20:05:54 <marja> +1 20:05:59 <DavidWHodgins> filip_: Latest one was last week 20:06:18 <MageiaTJ> +1\ 20:06:53 <wilcal> Agreed 20:07:07 <DavidWHodgins> #info The limited extended support for Mageia 5 has now officially ended. There will be no further Mageia 5 updates. 20:08:21 <DavidWHodgins> #action Announce to the public that the limited extended support for Mageia 5 has now ended. Please include a big thank you in that announcement for David Walser, aka Luigi12 20:08:29 <wilcal> It's over :-)) 20:09:04 <filip_> whole QA did a great job for mga5 also 20:09:11 <marja> indeed 20:09:40 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Board election and new Chair 20:09:40 <filip_> and tmb and many others as well 20:12:01 <DavidWHodgins> Does anyone know how we can get a list of association members to discuss the election process? 20:12:41 <DavidWHodgins> We're supposed to elect the board at a meeting of association members at Fosdem, but that isn't practical for most people to attend 20:13:03 <tmb> http://people.mageia.org/g/mga-association-members.html 20:13:05 <[mbot> [ people.mageia.org: g/mga-association-members ] 20:13:13 <lebarhon> Do we know the candidates 20:13:56 <lebarhon> ... if any 20:14:11 <DavidWHodgins> Wow. That list is much shorter than I was thinking it would be. 20:15:09 <papoteur> For what I remember, members elect board, and board designs president, treasorer and secretary in its members 20:15:19 <DavidWHodgins> lebarhon: Currently 6 candidates 20:15:22 <marja> DavidWHodgins: yes, we need many more association members 20:15:48 <lebarhon> Who are the six, I only know two of them 20:15:55 <DavidWHodgins> Anne is stepping down as Chair, but will still be on the board 20:16:14 <marja> DavidWHodgins: there hasn't been an official call for candidates, afaik, only the current board members have been asked whether they want to stay on... or did I miss something? 20:16:56 <DavidWHodgins> Anne Nicolas, me, Remi Verschelde, Samuel Verschelde, Donald Shultz, and William Kenny 20:17:06 <papoteur> marja: I think you"re right 20:17:21 <lebarhon> Samuel sais he coulldn't stay 20:17:26 <lebarhon> *said 20:17:37 <DavidWHodgins> marja: There was a call for new members sent to the council list, but no new candidates volunteered. 20:17:39 <papoteur> Thus we have to complete/clean the list of members 20:18:02 <DavidWHodgins> lebarhon: I missed that 20:18:13 <papoteur> And repeat the call to candidates. 20:18:28 <marja> DavidWHodgins: ah, I missed that 20:18:57 <marja> lebarhon: and I missed that, too :-( 20:19:37 <filip_> yeah. Versh brths were strong ;) 20:19:46 <DavidWHodgins> And we need someone willing to take over as Chair. Anne posted that she would stay on as Treasurer 20:19:51 <lebarhon> And I don't understand Anne because she sent a form on the ML about POSS 20:19:59 <marja> No, stormi said: "Still here but not quite active at the moment, so could leave my seat if need be. 20:20:02 <marja> " 20:20:08 <lebarhon> usually she filled it herself 20:20:08 <marja> so he could also stay on! 20:20:11 <filip_> marja, nice 20:22:40 <DavidWHodgins> lebarhon: What's the POSS? 20:22:59 <lebarhon> Paris Open Source Summit 20:23:27 <lebarhon> BTW, it is mandatory by the law to have at least a meeting each year with report 20:24:26 <DavidWHodgins> So the person who replaces Anne as Chair pretty well has to be in France, or be able to travel there easily. 20:24:45 <wilcal> Same kinda thing here in the States 20:25:06 <papoteur> Yes, could halp 20:25:10 <wilcal> Probably speak some French too :-)) 20:25:12 <filip_> is a meeting in person required? 20:25:12 <papoteur> s/help 20:25:20 <lebarhon> I don't know if a stranger can be a president 20:25:35 <papoteur> lebarhon: why not? 20:25:37 <DavidWHodgins> Does the meeting have to be an in person meeting? 20:25:51 <DavidWHodgins> I.E. Can it be an online meeting? 20:25:51 <tmb> According to ennael you dont need to be french to be president 20:26:05 <wilcal> That happens here in the States. A person can be "President" of a Company with no power 20:26:07 <lebarhon> papoteur: I will check 20:26:45 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, afaik online is enough 20:27:00 <lebarhon> French non profit associations have special rules 20:27:22 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: we don't have mean to do it otherwise. 20:28:12 <lebarhon> I think online meeting are OK 20:28:44 <DavidWHodgins> How about we first review who should be added to the association members list, then call for a meeting here on irc to elect the board? 20:28:59 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan 20:29:04 <filip_> +1 20:29:32 <lebarhon> I have the answer, anyone can be president 20:29:53 <marja> DavidWHodgins: review, then ask again for candidates, then elect 20:29:55 <DavidWHodgins> And if no one volunteers for the position of Chair/President, then we nominate someone during that meeting and vote them into it. :-) 20:30:47 <marja> I suppose association members can be candidates, too? 20:30:54 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: council have not to choice the president, but the board. 20:30:55 <DavidWHodgins> The chair/president's job in my understanding is to "hold the whip", and handle some PR. 20:30:57 <wilcal> Forced conscription :-) 20:31:49 <lebarhon> DavidWHodgins: you are right 20:32:07 <DavidWHodgins> So association elects board, board elects chair/president? 20:32:36 <tmb> and secretary and treasurer 20:33:23 <lebarhon> and a report must be writen 20:33:30 <DavidWHodgins> Who is the current secretary? 20:33:59 <papoteur> tmb? 20:34:35 <marja> DavidWHodgins: since board members are chosen "from and by the Mageia association active members", after the association members list is updated, the call for candidates should be sent there, too (and not only to board/council) 20:34:52 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Agreed 20:36:18 <lebarhon> +1 20:36:34 <filip_> yaeh 20:36:41 <wilcal> I'm good with that 20:37:24 <papoteur> We have to look at new members on forums, devs, and so on... 20:37:49 <papoteur> to propose them as new members. 20:38:22 <lebarhon> members are founders+council one year after 20:38:39 <marja> papoteur: not to forget the old active contributors who we never added to the association 20:38:51 * Pharaoh_Atem waves 20:38:55 <marja> lebarhon: no, board can decide to add people who did a lot for the project 20:39:02 <filip_> Pharaoh_Atem, o/ 20:39:08 <DavidWHodgins> The association members can als be elected by the board 20:39:19 <DavidWHodgins> s /als/also/ 20:39:21 <marja> lebarhon: on top of those who you mentioned ;-) 20:39:25 <marja> DavidWHodgins: yes 20:39:46 <lebarhon> marja: yes, but which one is in these case? 20:40:19 <filip_> should we wrap up? I'm low on fuel so I have to ;) 20:40:32 <DavidWHodgins> How about each team leader ask the members of their team, if they would like to be added as association members? 20:41:09 * filip_ thinks that Atelier is decimated lately 20:41:51 <marja> DavidWHodgins: and outside my team? I'd, for instance, like to propose Bit Twister, who's been very actively helping people on 20:41:56 <marja> alt.os.linux.mageia 20:42:05 <Pharaoh_Atem> we have a nntp group? 20:42:12 <marja> DavidWHodgins: since the beginning, and Doug Laidlaw, too 20:42:19 * filip_ misses trishf42 for blog especially 20:42:20 <DavidWHodgins> And that's the team we really need to use to get the word out that we need more people. :-( 20:42:49 <filip_> marja, I agree with adding Bit Twister 20:42:51 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Agreed. I'll ask him. I'm still fairly active on that usenet group too. 20:42:57 <DavidWHodgins> Pharaoh_Atem: Yep 20:43:10 <marja> DavidWHodgins: thx 20:43:27 <MageiaTJ> I check into the newsgroup every now and then. 20:44:27 <lebarhon> What about Dtux who worked on the arm OS on rasberry pi 20:44:27 <MageiaTJ> I think BT would be great. 20:44:53 <filip_> lebarhon, yeah. that would be great. 20:45:08 <marja> DavidWHodgins: I agree with lebarhon about adding DTux alias PCLinux 20:45:15 <lebarhon> he is also present in each exhibition in France 20:45:22 <marja> oops 20:45:39 <marja> DavidWHodgins: s/PCLinux/LibrPC/ 20:45:45 <marja> LibrePC 20:46:15 <filip_> sory. I'm flat 20:46:30 <papoteur> We have new active member also in docteam : Antony, cmoifp, stroibe... 20:46:30 <marja> DavidWHodgins: I guess we're all getting too tired now 20:46:46 <DavidWHodgins> #action Each team leader come up with a list of willing/deserving new assocation members by next week, and submit their names to the council ml 20:46:59 <wilcal> Time for countdown. Kudos to David for being in charge :-)) 20:47:07 <DavidWHodgins> Let's end this for now then. 20:47:08 <marja> papoteur: it's not about just started members, I think 20:47:21 <papoteur> I think we will need epoll working, isn't it, and it's not the case today? 20:47:44 <marja> papoteur: it doesn't work, afaik 20:48:00 <lebarhon> each team propose some names looks good 20:48:11 <DavidWHodgins> I'd prefer we just vote on the mailing list. Guarenteed record that way. 20:48:37 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Let's wrap up. 20:48:44 <papoteur> DavidWHodgins: we need a list were each member can post. 20:49:00 <marja> papoteur: association members have an alias 20:49:17 <marja> papoteur: all association members receive the mails that are sent to it 20:49:33 <tmb> epoll seems to be up 20:50:06 <DavidWHodgins> Let's decide on the voting method next week. 20:50:10 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 20:50:12 <marja> tmb does creating a poll work now? 20:50:14 <DavidWHodgins> 4 20:50:21 <DavidWHodgins> 3 20:50:25 <DavidWHodgins> 2 20:50:28 <DavidWHodgins> 1 20:50:34 <papoteur> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22867 20:50:34 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming every one 20:50:35 <[mbot> [ 22867 – Epoll doesn't work as expected. ] 20:50:44 <wilcal> bye all 20:50:46 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting