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20:16:35 <ennael> hi all thanks for attending
20:18:12 <ennael> so first topic
20:18:21 <ennael> #topic Mageia 6 development and planning
20:18:41 <ennael> so as you may have seen we are late :)
20:18:55 <ennael> thanks guys for the blog post
20:18:56 <papoteur> sure ?
20:19:53 <ennael> we have some major issues on installer and some DEs
20:20:15 <ennael> and also some packaging items that causes scriplets to fail
20:21:08 <papoteur> ennael: are issues well identified?
20:21:40 <wilcal> I would say no papo due to the fact that so many things have issues
20:21:47 <ennael> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17217
20:21:49 <[mbot> [ Bug 17217 numerous ERROR: 'script' failed for messages without rpm name ]
20:21:53 <ennael> is one of the bug reports about ir
20:21:54 <ennael> it
20:22:41 <ennael> some work have already been done to fix installer for sddm/plasma5 changes
20:22:53 <ennael> and everything should be ok on that side.
20:23:09 <ennael> still we have issues with X server hanging when starts
20:23:15 <ennael> scriplet failed
20:23:23 <ennael> tv is on it
20:23:26 <wilcal> I do get a successful install using boot.iso but with tons of script errors going in
20:23:28 <ennael> neoclust on KDE side
20:23:33 <ennael> indeed
20:23:33 <Son_Goku> I know that in my case, I’m kinda blocked by infra issues
20:24:04 <ennael> so the plan is to ask together pterjan, coling, tmb, tv about pending issue
20:24:05 <Son_Goku> I can’t complete my particular feature until we’ve got rpm-md repos being made regularly by the buildsystem and that we can get MirrorBrain going for mirrorlists
20:24:29 <Son_Goku> then I can wrap up everything and call my feature ready for testing and use in the dev snapshots
20:25:08 <Son_Goku> the rpm-md bug: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17057
20:25:11 <[mbot> [ Bug 17057 Request for cmocka, drpm, and createrepo_c built for infra_5 and createrepo_c metadata generation for Cauldron ]
20:26:08 <ennael> well for now unfortunatelly this one is not a priority as isos are completely stalled because of other issues
20:26:54 <ennael> december is always quite a busy week on job side and people were not that available
20:26:59 <Son_Goku> yeah, but I figure it would be good to bring up
20:27:09 <ennael> so the point is to ping them now and try to solve these issues
20:27:54 <ennael> hi MrsB
20:28:12 <MrsB> Morning :) Sorry I'm late getting here
20:28:25 <Son_Goku> if I’m lucky and things get resolved, I’d like to switch PackageKit to use it
20:29:09 <ennael> so crossing fingers, the target is to get all this solved before christmas
20:29:27 <papoteur> OK
20:29:28 <ennael> to be able to find isos under christmas tree :)
20:29:40 <papoteur> \o/
20:30:21 <Son_Goku> that would be nice
20:31:47 <MrsB> Have those implied in features been made aware yet?
20:31:59 <ennael> ?
20:32:02 <MrsB> I don't think we have a definitive list yet do we
20:32:27 <ennael> oh
20:32:34 <ennael> should be on the wiki let me check
20:32:55 <MrsB> I haven't seen discussion on dev, don't think it's widely known
20:33:09 <ennael> indeed page is not written
20:33:15 <MrsB> so people can get started dev'ing stuff
20:33:21 <ennael> I can do it after meeting, no kids and husband tonight :)
20:33:27 <MrsB> Woo how come?
20:33:35 <sebsebseb> hi
20:33:40 <MrsB> morning sebsebseb
20:33:50 <sebsebseb> evening MrsB
20:34:08 <ennael> MrsB: working in west of france for 2 days
20:34:28 * ennael did nothing bad to them :)
20:34:39 <blino> I hope you like rain
20:34:40 <MrsB> ahh, well a break is as good as a rest, they say
20:34:40 <papoteur> ennael: ouf
20:34:52 <ennael> so are there other bugs detected that we should know/underline?
20:35:20 <MrsB> I've asked everyone to ensure they're all reported and have 6dev1 added to the whiteboard
20:35:59 <MrsB> I've been a bit of a spare wheel this time, working long days
20:36:51 <ennael> ok
20:37:20 <ennael> anything else regarding mageia6 ?
20:37:40 <MrsB> Lewis sent a big document to qa-discuss regarding possible improvements
20:37:48 <wilcal> I think there are things we don't know about because there is so many things broken right now
20:37:59 <wilcal> for me that's testing plasma5
20:38:04 <MrsB> yes that's quite likely wilcal
20:38:15 <wilcal> i don't know if it's afeature or broken kinda stuff
20:38:28 <MrsB> Hopefully openQA will help with that
20:38:38 <Son_Goku> oh, having openQA would be awesome
20:38:38 <MrsB> Vlad is working on it and in touch with adamw now
20:38:57 <wilcal> until we get a bootable live media we won't know what it's supposed to do
20:39:03 <ennael> what about having a guy from KDE team answering your question at one moment ?
20:39:12 <ennael> if we agree on a given date
20:39:17 <Akien> back, sorry for the delay
20:39:47 <MrsB> sounds like fedora have a few packages missing to use openqa natively but use a COPR (fedora ppa) - we should be able to package it quite easily from there
20:39:51 <wilcal> If someone could point me to another distro with a working plasma5 that would help
20:40:05 <MrsB> copr for the missing packages i mean
20:40:07 <Son_Goku> Fedora KDE seems to finally have it going in Plasma 5.5
20:40:32 <wilcal> thks
20:41:04 <Son_Goku> wilcal: I recommend using a Workstation netinstall image to install, so you go straight to Plasma 5.5
20:42:17 <wilcal> is ubuntu using plasma5?
20:42:54 <Akien> What we need also is to have DE maintainers trying to install their own DE from scratch, as soon as we have bootable installers
20:43:09 <MrsB> yes agreed
20:43:16 <Akien> They're the best placed to know what are obvious issues and what would just be "ah ok I'm not familiar with plasma5/gnome 3.20 yet)
20:43:45 <Akien> Though I'd expect the DEs to be relatively easy to use for newcomers, so if QA testers find them weird, there's probably something off
20:43:59 * MrsB looks at packging team leaders
20:44:28 * Akien looks at MrsB, and gives her a minion figure.
20:44:51 <MrsB> is that similar to a middle finger?
20:44:58 <Akien> Hehe no :)
20:45:03 <ennael> that's what at least neoclust is trying to do at the moment
20:45:19 <ennael> I also tested KDE based on minimal install
20:45:31 <ennael> install task-plasma5 was ok on my sode
20:45:32 <ennael> side
20:45:33 <Akien> I also need to test some installs myself, I've been lagging behind a bit lately
20:45:52 <Akien> So I can't complain too much about the other devs yet :D
20:45:59 <ennael> :)
20:46:16 <ennael> but we can ping all of them indeed
20:46:29 <MrsB> that would speed things up i think
20:46:35 <Akien> Do we currently have a viable solution to install cauldron from scratch?
20:46:47 <Akien> eg. does boot.iso work?
20:46:53 <ennael> yep
20:47:03 <ennael> choose minimal install
20:47:19 <Akien> Ok, then I can send an email to dev@ asking everyone to try a minimal install with boot.iso to see how a "from scratch" system behaves
20:47:28 <Son_Goku> wilcal: Ubuntu’s Ubuntu is borked
20:47:36 <Son_Goku> err, KDE
20:47:47 <wilcal> Well that's encouraging :-(
20:47:48 <Akien> I guess many devs are either still on mga5, or on custom cauldrons that they fixed for themselves little by little
20:48:20 <Akien> Son_Goku: Nice slip of the tongue :p
20:49:06 <MrsB> OpenQA will also help to get devs/packagers testing i think
20:49:24 <MrsB> If we can do regular iso builds it will provide a good base for people to test with
20:49:37 <Akien> Yep, especially the video feature is quite useful IMO so that devs can seem easily what's going wrong
20:49:49 <MrsB> it'll also show ahead of time when things break
20:50:27 <papoteur> Akien: video can be done from Virtualox.
20:50:39 <MrsB> Part of ubuntu qa is for maintainers to try their package on a nightly build
20:51:04 <MrsB> they have a application that makes it easy, syncing the iso and booting a VM with it
20:51:28 <MrsB> forget the name of it now
20:53:20 <ennael> ok can we sum up actions for coming days ,
20:53:21 <ennael> ?
20:54:02 <MrsB> fix features, fix bugs, get DE maintainers to try their DE
20:54:10 <Akien> I'll ping devs about testing ISOs (especially DE maintainers)
20:54:22 <Akien> s/ISOs/minimal install/
20:54:44 <MrsB> Could somebody please look at what's involved in importing openqa from fedora too
20:55:06 <ennael> would be nice if vlad can answer
20:55:14 <ennael> I set him a contact name in SUSE
20:55:20 <ennael> no idea if he got it
20:55:35 <MrsB> i'll forward an email from adamw - he's been in contact with him.
20:55:50 <MrsB> putting alot of time into it
20:56:27 <Akien> Can someone provide a saved search for 5dev1 bugs?
20:56:33 <Akien> I can put it in the /topic on #mageia-dev
20:56:51 <ennael> Akien: you mean 6dev1 ? :)
20:56:53 <Akien> And start reviewing the bugs and make sure they are being looked at
20:57:05 <Akien> Aren't we going to re-release mga5? :p
20:57:09 <Akien> Yeah 6dev1 :)
20:57:20 <ennael> :)
20:57:23 <ennael> ok
20:57:38 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=56521&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&v1=6dev1
20:57:44 <Akien> Thanks MrsB
20:57:53 <MrsB> should be 6dev1 in whiteboard
20:57:59 <Akien> As we've speaking about it, olav is testing the GNOME LiveDVDs :)
20:58:04 <Akien> we're*
20:58:13 <MrsB> there is also probably the tracker bug which may be useful
20:58:51 <Akien> 20 bugs already, nice job QA :)
20:59:02 <Akien> And nice job packagers for breaking cauldron so well :P
20:59:06 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15527
20:59:08 <[mbot> [ Bug 15527 [Tracker] Mageia 6 release critical ]
21:00:05 <Akien> Son_Goku: I understand your eagerness regarding your feature but infra bugs are not blocking for 6dev1 no...
21:00:14 <MrsB> It's actually good to see it so broken at this early stage though. Encouraging. We just need to ensure it moves forward and doesn't put prevent others development
21:00:23 <Son_Goku> Akien: it was an accident, I removed it
21:00:28 <Son_Goku> I meant to add it to the tracker for release
21:00:40 <MrsB> -put
21:00:44 <Akien> Son_Goku: Ok thanks :) Yeah mga6 release blocker sounds good for this.
21:01:15 <Akien> What about the release schedule?
21:01:33 <Akien> Schultz made a proposal to move everything a bit by 3 weeks or so
21:01:53 <Akien> I think it's sensible since apparently we're going for Gnome 3.20, and the previous schedule was a bit tight for this
21:02:00 * ennael finds it a bit early to announce a new schedule
21:02:05 <MrsB> yes
21:02:16 <MrsB> let's see how development develops first
21:02:28 <Akien> Well we do need at least to update https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_6_Development
21:02:30 <ennael> why not waiting for having working isos then decide
21:02:37 <Akien> A random guy changed the dates already...
21:02:55 <MrsB> stay vague for now, first few weeks of 2016 in the blog post was the right tone imho
21:02:59 <Akien> He just changed November for December when seeing that dev1 was not arriving...
21:03:38 <Son_Goku> Akien: so should I go ahead and file the bugs for the other infra stuff we agreed to at the feature meeting?
21:03:39 <Son_Goku> I don’t see any other records of our decisions anywhere else
21:03:42 <Akien> Then I'd propose to rework the schedule on the wiki based on Schultz proposed weeks, but make all those vague months
21:03:56 <Son_Goku> brb as Pharaoh_Atem
21:04:28 <Akien> Like dev2 in February, final release aimed around May
21:05:36 <Akien> Pharaoh_Atem: Yep you can go on with your feature, it's approved. Still need to summarize approved features in a wiki page, but the meeting minutes are binding :D
21:07:33 * Akien brings cookies for everyone.
21:08:04 <ennael> miam
21:08:13 <ennael> ok anything else about mga6 ?
21:08:19 <wilcal> not from me
21:08:35 <MrsB> that about covers it for now i think
21:08:58 <ennael> ok :)
21:09:05 <ennael> #topic blog posts process
21:09:19 <ennael> quick discussion about this
21:09:31 <ennael> to avoid having people getting nervous on ML :)
21:09:50 <papoteur> ;)
21:10:28 <MrsB> Schultz:  stormi
21:10:44 <ennael> so we need to define who is doing what and how
21:10:52 <Schultz> yeah im here sortof
21:11:03 <MrsB> it's your bit :)
21:11:09 <Akien> Well most of the time the process is working fine: draft proposal, some reviewing, and then it's published. Last week this was mostly a misunderstanding about how dire was the need for a quick blog post explaining that we're not meeting our deadline
21:13:24 <MrsB> sums it up i think
21:14:09 <Akien> I guess we could just say that unless there is a real urgency, we should not publish articles too fast :)
21:14:34 <Akien> But again I'm pretty sure Schultz considered it was quite urgent this time. :)
21:15:13 <Akien> I'm not sure we could better the process much, some articles are relatively simple and can be proofread and posted in a matter of hours, e.g. the upcoming article about hplip backport shouldn't need 10 reviews
21:15:42 <Schultz> yep, that one was on me, not sure why I felt the need to be so fast, but it seemed urgent so apologies for that
21:15:59 <Akien> For articles about releases it's a bit more touchy as we want to give off the good vibe, so that people know we're still alive and working on our preferred distro :)
21:16:19 <MrsB> that's a good point
21:16:30 <Akien> In the end I think we came up with a pretty good article :)
21:16:31 <ennael> can we define a process that says a blog post must be proofread by at least one other guy before publishing it.
21:16:33 <ennael> ?
21:16:42 <ennael> whatever post it is
21:16:57 <MrsB> Council posts could maybe be sent to council ML first
21:17:37 <Schultz> looks good to me
21:17:57 <MrsB> regular general posts atelier have their own process
21:18:13 <ennael> would be nice to formalize this and send to ML
21:18:17 <Akien> MrsB: Yes good idea. Release-related posts would be "council posts" then
21:18:59 <Schultz> yep, I can write if you want
21:19:15 <MrsB> If the blog post is regarding a decision made at council then it should be sent to council ML before publishing - to both proof read and put a buffer between person and public
21:19:33 <Akien> MrsB: +1
21:20:08 <Schultz> yeah, sounds good, thats pretty close to what happens on many things, so formalising it would be good
21:20:11 <papoteur> +1
21:20:22 <ennael> thanks Schultz
21:21:02 <Schultz> no worries
21:22:01 <ennael> anything else on that point ?
21:22:23 <Akien> Not from me
21:22:30 <MrsB> Just to say thanks Schultz for showing the initiative in the first place
21:22:45 <MrsB> we should never penalise that
21:23:19 <ennael> indeed that's why it was important rather to define a process so that people can work together
21:23:45 <ennael> next topic then
21:23:48 <Schultz> english, do we have a policy on which one? I'm getting tired of fixing americanisms and not knowing if I should
21:24:07 <MrsB> wiki policy is either is OK as long as the whole page is the same one
21:24:18 <Akien> Schultz: I think we're more or less using US spellings, even though I prefer UK :)
21:24:21 <Schultz> ok, sounds good
21:24:28 <Akien> On the other hand I remove double spaces after dots, I find this silly :p
21:25:11 <Akien> (no offense to people who put two spaces after dots of course ;))
21:25:19 <MrsB> silly people :P
21:26:23 <Akien> Schultz: But yeah rule of thumb, if the spelling and language is coherent in the post, it's fine IMO
21:26:44 <Schultz> ok, ill make it all britsih then :)
21:26:52 <Akien> FIne by me :)
21:26:54 <MrsB> \o/
21:27:10 <ennael> great :)
21:27:11 <Schultz> maybe Scottish if you're all lucky :)
21:27:25 <MrsB> I'll de-scot when ready ;)
21:27:47 <ennael> ok next topic?
21:28:04 <Akien> yep
21:28:16 <Schultz> yep
21:29:54 <Akien> coming events, according to the agenda?
21:30:03 <ennael> #topic coming events
21:31:23 <sebsebseb> FOSDEM!
21:31:43 <Akien> Fosdem indeed :)
21:31:55 <Akien> I plan to be there this year, just need to make the arrangements
21:31:56 * sebsebseb wonders about the stands
21:32:02 <sebsebseb> Akien: oh awesome nice :)
21:32:15 <sebsebseb> FOSDEM hasn't actsaully confirmed the stands publically yet, but ennael might have been emailed about the stand it seems
21:32:27 <MrsB> wilcal: scale?
21:32:29 <ennael> still wiating for answer I will mail them again about it
21:32:37 <wilcal> i have a verbal go from SCALE 14x I should see the exhibitors pack probably 1st week in Jan
21:32:38 <wilcal> I have a verbal go from SCALE 14x. I should see the exhibitors pack probably 1st week in Jan
21:32:40 <wilcal> https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x
21:32:42 <[mbot> [ SCALE 14x | 14x ]
21:32:51 * sebsebseb already has his plane ticket booked
21:32:59 <sebsebseb> so get it slightly cheaper than last time
21:33:07 <wilcal> You'd get to see lovely Pasadena
21:33:31 <ennael> we must have some divination talent
21:33:34 <ennael> "Your stand proposal for FOSDEM 2016 has been accepted"
21:33:36 <wilcal> It's a very upscale convention center
21:33:38 <ennael> just received
21:33:44 <sebsebseb> ennael: ok awesome :) and thought it would have been :)
21:33:46 <Akien> I've been emailed to make a talk about game development at FOSDEM, but well... I'll stick to Mageia :D
21:34:06 * sebsebseb remembers to get any Mageia t-shirts on Saturday in case  they go back to France on Sunday early hmm
21:34:20 <wilcal> Wow Mageia is gone to represented big time in 2016
21:34:37 <sebsebseb> Akien: a talk hmm, I  am not sure, but I think the distro devs room might be looking for talks stll
21:34:38 <ennael> The FOSDEM stands team is glad to be able to inform you that your request
21:34:41 <ennael> for a stand for 'Mageia.Org' has been accepted.
21:34:43 <ennael> There will be one table reserved for you.
21:34:44 <sebsebseb> maybe we could have another round table :d like what Oliver did or something :d
21:34:46 <ennael> Like most years, we received roughly twice as many requests for stands
21:34:48 <ennael> as we have tables available. We have aimed to grant as many requests as
21:34:51 <ennael> feasible and to increase the diversity of the accepted stands. Because
21:34:53 <ennael> of this, we have unfortunately had to reduce the space available for a
21:34:56 <ennael> number of regular attendees, as well as reject some projects that have
21:34:58 <ennael> been present in previous years years.
21:35:01 <ennael> sorry for the flood
21:35:17 <MrsB> They maybe just saw the blog post
21:35:33 <MrsB> Wilcal will need some goodies for Scale in the US btw
21:36:09 <Akien> Goodies-wise, I guess it's cheaper to have some produced in the US than shipping them from France?
21:36:12 <sebsebseb> MrsB: which blog post?
21:36:19 <sebsebseb> Akien: indeed
21:36:22 <MrsB> would imagine so yes
21:36:38 <wilcal> I am going to go very simple at this show because of it's size
21:36:44 <MrsB> do we have designs etc he could take to a shop to get prices?
21:36:53 <ennael> so we will have usb keys, TS
21:37:10 <ennael> do we have a flyer written and ready to be used
21:37:10 <sebsebseb> could we maybe get some pens sorted out to or something like that :) ?
21:37:11 <ennael> ?
21:37:12 <wilcal> I'll just print some one page data sheets and put those on the table. I'll have a laptop and desktop running M5
21:37:35 <wilcal> If you have something that would be fine but they'd be going in a couple hours
21:37:50 <sebsebseb> wilcal can have flyers in French to ( joking )
21:37:52 <Akien> We have this flyer that Stormi made for the JDLL: http://stormi.lautre.net/fichiers/jdll/2015/mageia-jdll-flyer.EN.pdf
21:38:03 <wilcal> If we have something in French that would be great
21:38:13 <Akien> (there's also a version in French)
21:38:24 <ennael> shall we use it for FOSDEM?
21:38:26 <sebsebseb> wilcal: if your near Qubec yeah maybe so actually
21:38:30 <wilcal> That's just fine
21:38:31 <ennael> if so I will make copies
21:39:11 <wilcal> Is there a link to the french or german version of this?
21:39:18 <MrsB> looks a good flyer
21:39:24 <wilcal> It's fine
21:39:26 <Akien> wilcal: http://stormi.lautre.net/fichiers/jdll/2015/
21:39:28 <[mbot> [ Index of /fichiers/jdll/2015 ]
21:39:37 <Akien> wilcal: the "tract" version is in French
21:40:37 <sebsebseb> and doing Live DVD's I think now instaed of CD's as well?
21:41:01 <MrsB> mga5 has cd's
21:41:21 <sebsebseb> ok  CD for Mageia 5, but for 6 onwards DVD's I guess it will be
21:41:22 <wilcal> got it. There are quick print places near the Convention Center. Print 500 and if i need more I'll get'em
21:41:22 <Akien> But better go with DVDs IMO to be consistent with our dropping of the CDs for mga6
21:41:48 <MrsB> dvd's give a better experience though so better to use for giving out
21:41:58 <sebsebseb> ok DVD's then :)
21:42:14 <MrsB> why didn't you think of that ;)
21:42:24 <sebsebseb> who? :D
21:43:08 <Akien> ennael: So yeah I think you can go with this flyer
21:43:38 <Akien> Do we have a wiki page about FOSDEM?
21:43:45 <sebsebseb> not yet it seems
21:43:52 <Akien> So that contributors can start adding themselves to the list of attendants
21:44:38 <sebsebseb> indeed
21:45:07 * sebsebseb waits for someone not him to start one :d
21:45:21 * sebsebseb then later messes around with getting Mageia idetnfiy account password reset hmm
21:46:02 <Akien> Alright I'll see that a wiki is created
21:46:16 <sebsebseb> Akien: yeah you can base it on the  ones for previous years
21:46:23 <sebsebseb> that will be on there still some where
21:46:52 <Akien> I think we're more or less done with this topic. Any other topic to discuss?
21:47:23 <sebsebseb> Akien: this  was the one for this year: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2015
21:47:31 <sebsebseb> uhmm swag/merchandice
21:47:37 <sebsebseb> isn't it time we have something else to really? such as pens?
21:47:52 * sebsebseb always finds the Mageia stand a bit disapointing to be honest compared to other stands at FOSDEM
21:48:01 <MrsB> Who do we know in Atelier?
21:48:11 <sebsebseb> MrsB: who do we know in France :d
21:48:13 <sebsebseb> or Belgium
21:48:36 <sebsebseb> who have access to the Mageia funds to
21:48:55 <MrsB> somebody first has to come up with some prices
21:49:00 <MrsB> suggestions etc
21:49:01 <wilcal> FWIW sebsebseb is a great salesperson for Mageia person to person. He does really well
21:50:02 <sebsebseb> wilcal: yep that year I was :)
21:50:25 <Akien> Well most other stands have people who can arrange goodies on work hours... :)
21:50:32 <ennael> it would cost about 100€ to get a personnalized table clothe
21:50:36 * sebsebseb won't be brinign pens or whatever from UK to FOSDEM, but if someone can from France for example, that's good :)
21:50:43 <Schultz> maybe as you are wanting to add to what we have you can look for some options :)
21:50:45 <ennael> I will propose some price on council ML
21:50:52 <ennael> would be nice to have one for FOSDEM
21:50:57 <MrsB> yes
21:51:03 <sebsebseb> ennael: indeed
21:51:14 <ennael> will check this
21:51:16 <Akien> sebsebseb: FOSDEM is not much farther from France than UK :)
21:51:26 <Akien> (er, the other way around :p)
21:51:44 <ennael> anything else on that topic?
21:52:10 <sebsebseb> nope
21:52:42 <MrsB> how are mageia funds btw?
21:52:57 <ennael> I'm in the middle of a great battle number :)
21:53:05 <ennael> but thins are rather good
21:53:17 <MrsB> good time for some goodies then
21:53:20 <ennael> I've just committed this we some updates on donations
21:53:23 <ennael> indeed
21:53:33 <sebsebseb> indeed if got enough funds, then good to have  more goodies sorted out :)
21:54:00 <ennael> just think about other things we could propose, it's now or never :)
21:54:07 <ennael> will also order some stickers
21:54:15 <MrsB> pens, mugs, keyrings
21:54:28 <sebsebseb> hats maybe even
21:54:46 <MrsB> plastic bags to put stuff in
21:54:47 <ennael> mugs may be hard to manage but pens can be done at rather low price
21:54:59 <ennael> can ask for a price and I'll you know
21:55:01 <Akien> Mageia pens could definitely be cool
21:55:04 <sebsebseb> yeah carrier bags for event
21:55:12 <sebsebseb> a Mageia event bag, not plastic, but better mateiral is good :)
21:55:34 * sebsebseb has one for KDE, has one for Free BSD, has one for Libre OFfice, has one for an event
21:55:46 <ennael> ok I can mail some price and we will see then
21:55:53 <MrsB> great :)
21:56:04 <ennael> other topic for this meeting ?
21:56:05 <sebsebseb> ennael: awesome :)
21:56:11 <wilcal> i'm done
21:56:16 <sebsebseb> nope that's it I think
21:56:36 <MrsB> enjoy the rest of your night
21:56:40 <ennael> :)
21:56:46 <wilcal> bye all
21:56:47 <ennael> so thanks all for attending
21:56:48 <Akien> Thanks everyone for attending :)
21:56:54 <sebsebseb> and Akien is apparnatly coming awesome :)
21:56:56 <ennael> now going to catch the cookies :)
21:57:07 <ennael> #endmeeting