19:12:36 <ennael> #startmeeting 19:12:36 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Mon Sep 14 19:12:36 2015 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:12:36 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:12:43 <ennael> hi all and thanks for attending! 19:12:55 <marja> ennael: thx for chairing :-) 19:13:18 <ennael> #chair marja MrsB 19:13:18 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: MrsB ennael marja 19:13:24 <ennael> girls power! 19:13:32 <MrsB> oops missed the start 19:13:36 <MrsB> hi :) 19:13:38 <ennael> :) 19:13:43 <Akien> Hi everyone :) 19:14:20 <ennael> ok so let start 19:14:21 <marja> ennael: I'm not a good chair, I don't see good enough, yet 19:14:45 * ennael will not sit on marja 19:14:49 <marja> lol 19:14:56 <ennael> :) 19:15:10 <ennael> #topic mageia financial review 19:15:19 <ennael> ok first point will be quick 19:15:37 <ennael> we have about 16k€ on Mageia accounts 19:15:58 <MrsB> wow that's a record isn't it? 19:16:18 <ennael> well we did not do big expenses 19:16:29 <DavidWHodgins> How much are we expecting to spend on new hardware? 19:16:37 <ennael> that was my point 19:16:43 * grenoya sees lots of new servers :) 19:16:46 <ennael> we have some money available 19:16:57 <MrsB> time to order goodies grenoya 19:16:58 <ennael> sysadmins made some proposals 19:17:14 <ennael> we cannot add more servers in Marseille but we can renew one of them 19:17:23 <papoteur> our goal is not to accimulate money. 19:17:28 <ennael> old one that was given in the first days of Mageia 19:17:58 <ennael> we may have to buy hardware for about 5000 to 6000€ 19:18:09 <ennael> still needs to be finalized 19:18:36 <ennael> also they spoke about having some other solution to get some more backups in case of pb in datacenter 19:19:36 <MrsB> it'd be make those kind of purchases now 19:19:40 <MrsB> ^good 19:19:55 <ennael> yep so I need to ask sysadmins to go on that subject 19:20:03 <marja> perfect 19:20:15 <ennael> tmb is partly away but coling and neoclust want to help 19:20:16 <papoteur> OK 19:20:23 <DavidWHodgins> As soon as the specs are ready, and approximate prices totalled I say, go ahead. 19:20:26 <ennael> and we will ask maat to to go in Marseille 19:20:27 <MrsB> let them know they can go a bit crazy with it, over specify so we have redundant capacity 19:20:35 <ennael> :) 19:20:45 <ennael> second point is goodies 19:21:12 <ennael> we have for now more than enough tee-shirts 19:21:26 <ennael> but we can think about some other kind of goodies 19:21:43 <grenoya> like USB sticks ? 19:21:51 <ennael> whatever it is :) 19:21:56 <grenoya> we were late in February for that 19:21:57 <MrsB> mugs too 19:22:06 <ennael> yep we should do it *now* 19:23:26 <wilcal> Do note that likely I will have a space at SCALE https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x 19:23:28 <[mbot> [ SCALE 14x | 14x ] 19:23:40 <wilcal> that is the weekend before FOSDEM 19:23:54 <ennael> so we need to plan this 19:24:04 <wilcal> We'll have to see if theirs some thing I can use 19:24:12 <ennael> maybe you can have a look with atelier 19:24:27 <ennael> sending items can cost a lot maybe it's cheaper to make some locally 19:24:27 <wilcal> having been to FOSDEM I'd say SCALE is maybe 20x bigger 19:25:01 <ennael> things are always much bigger in the US :p 19:25:29 <wilcal> Making things like banners here is much easier 19:25:45 <wilcal> If I give things away I gotta have a boat load of them 19:26:08 <grenoya> wilcal: you can do stickers (we must have the design somewhere) 19:26:09 <wilcal> I'd say 1/3 of the booths don't really give free things awway 19:26:18 <MrsB> work with atelier wilcal, there's no reason not to have a boatload where needed 19:27:00 <wilcal> I gotta get with the marketing team and see if we can put together a pdf for a 8 1/2in x 10 trifold 19:27:12 <Akien> wilcal: Are there Mageia contributors in the region that could help you? 19:27:29 <wilcal> At least one has said that he will help me 19:27:49 <wilcal> first gotta secure the space and I think I should see that by Novemberish 19:27:50 <Akien> wilcal: If you give us the dimensions in SI units, we can manage something :P 19:27:57 <wilcal> k 19:28:08 * coling doesn't know two much about the physical machines, but I can certainly try and help migrate things generally. Will just crack on and do as much as I can with alamut -> sucuk but I'll be fairly busy this month sadly. 19:28:10 <MrsB> I can help with scribus stuff :) 19:29:25 <ennael> coling: anyway buying and installong new hardware will take some time 19:29:32 * coling also indeed 19:29:43 <coling> erm, s/also *// 19:32:20 <marja> wb Schultz 19:33:09 <MrsB> Anything else about this? 19:33:10 <ennael> ok so please wilcal can you check with atelier, also atelier can you try to evaluate what we need for the goodies? 19:34:13 <grenoya> ennael: I think your the one with the stocks of goodies: can you tell us if you feel we're missing something? 19:34:15 <wilcal> I will thanks 19:34:23 * grenoya lost her notes from FOSDEM /o\ 19:35:00 <ennael> grenoya: basically we have TS and blank CDs 19:35:22 * marja thinks we should get blank DVDs 19:35:23 <grenoya> no more stickers? 19:35:40 <marja> even if they take longer to burn 19:35:43 <ennael> not more then 20 or 30 19:36:39 <grenoya> OK, thanks for the informations :) 19:36:59 <ennael> ok :) 19:37:21 <ennael> #topic Atelier : coming events, how to plan it 19:38:07 <ennael> so we havve for now SCALE and FOSDEM in january 19:38:31 <ennael> and a french event in november 19:38:33 <wilcal> Truly International 19:38:40 <wilcal> World wide 19:38:43 <ennael> (new Solution Linux) 19:39:04 <marja> Latte: doktor5000_: do you know whether Mageia will be present at OpenRheinRuhr again? 19:39:06 <ennael> can you in atelier check with french guys for Solution Linux ? 19:39:26 <marja> Stormi: wb 19:39:34 <Stormi> hi :) 19:39:37 <Latte> OpenRheinRuhr 19:39:44 <Stormi> yeah, I almost didn't miss this one! 19:40:06 <MrsB> o/ 19:40:08 <Latte> marja: but I'm not sure 19:40:24 <Latte> since I moved far away 19:40:40 <grenoya> ennael: do we already have people would said they'll come ? 19:40:43 <marja> Latte: yes .... it was planned, but since FrOSCon didn't see a Mageia stand (IIUC), I thought our presence at ORR was maybe in danger, too 19:41:18 <ennael> grenoya: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Solutions_Linux_2015 19:41:47 <Latte> I never liked FrOSCon 19:41:58 <papoteur> grenoya: epilip and librePC/Daniel 19:42:14 <ennael> would be nice to add them on the wiki 19:42:25 <grenoya> ennael: that was for the canceled one in May :p 19:42:35 <ennael> oups indeed... 19:43:03 <ennael> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Paris_Open_Source_Summit_2015 19:43:05 <ennael> better 19:43:12 <Latte> is there a central wiki page for meetings? 19:43:34 <marja> Latte: there's a category: Events 19:44:26 <grenoya> ennael: we can contact them. Will you be there? (to know how to organise the goodies moves) 19:44:45 <ennael> I need to check my calendar :) 19:44:57 <Latte> marja: thx, OpenRheinRuhr in in there 19:45:05 <ennael> also as a side note we do not have yet formal confirmation for the booth 19:45:31 <marja> Latte: nice (I can't check, now) 19:46:28 <grenoya> ennael: OK, let us know as soon as you have it. During that time we can work on spending all Mageia money into goodies :D 19:46:41 <MrsB> mmmm goodies 19:46:58 <ennael> :) 19:47:15 <ennael> ok can we plan the wiki page for all coming events ? 19:47:18 <marja> chocolates with Mageia logo ;-) 19:47:38 <MrsB> you're a genius marja :) 19:47:54 <ennael> if you are ok I can plan (for real) to make some beer for the fosdem 19:48:10 <marja> MrsB: I'm not a genius, I'm a chocolate addict ;-) 19:48:34 <MrsB> still a good idea 19:48:43 <marja> ennael: fine with me (since OpenSuse stopped) 19:48:49 <ennael> really ? 19:49:01 <grenoya> ennael: what a good idea :) 19:49:13 <marja> ennael: or I misunderstood 19:49:57 <papoteur> how many hl ? ;) 19:50:33 <marja> papoteur: 5k hl... we'll need a truck 19:50:42 <ennael> ok so on events front we need wiki pages and check goodies needs 19:52:13 <Schultz> morning all 19:52:15 <grenoya> if we're still talking about Atelier, we have another need 19:52:41 <grenoya> we talked last year about hosting Mageia background contest 19:53:00 <grenoya> would it be possible to have that for Mga6 contest? 19:53:19 <ennael> what is the precise need ? 19:53:26 <ennael> just to remember 19:54:07 <MrsB> start it early 19:54:07 <papoteur> a gallery? 19:54:13 <Schultz> an image gallery that we can use to allow the public to submit images at the most basic 19:54:30 <Schultz> if we could also have the ability to add catagories and such it would be great 19:54:30 <ennael> hi Schultz :) 19:54:36 <ennael> ok 19:55:04 <MrsB> we've talked about that the last 2 releases IIRC 19:55:23 <Akien> coling already created a git space for us, but we're not using it currently (it's still on my todo list to import our existing assets in it) 19:55:25 <Schultz> iirc there was discussion about using wordpress but I dont know if anything came from that 19:55:40 <grenoya> what whanged late release is that flickr is now using yahoo account for login 19:55:48 <Akien> But indeed for the artwork submission we'd need something where ideally users could log in with an identity accout, and upload their artwork 19:55:53 <MrsB> maybe mediagoblin 19:56:09 <Schultz> if a webdrop for git exisited would that work? 19:56:11 <Akien> mediagoblin could work, piwigo too I think 19:56:13 <grenoya> we need something where users could log with our LDAP account 19:56:31 <MrsB> mg allows that 19:56:46 <MrsB> may be somethign simpler 19:56:59 <MrsB> coling ^^ 19:57:02 <Schultz> I'm not sure about the login part, it migh deter some people but I will give you that having proper tracking of who submitted what would be very nice 19:58:24 <Akien> For most infra needs though, I think the prerequisite is hardware and OS upgrade 19:58:31 <Akien> Same thing for an updated mediawiki, etc. 19:58:48 <grenoya> that was the answer last year :) 19:58:50 <Akien> So I guess we need to really put the focus on this for a while :) 19:59:24 <Akien> Maybe we should consider putting a server in a DC in Scotland or Sweden? ;-) 19:59:41 <MrsB> we have the server now though, so it just requires the people 19:59:45 <Schultz> as a plan b does anyone know of a site thats better than flickr? WE could maybe use google drive but it isnt really ideal either 19:59:47 <marja> Akien: Finland ;-) 20:00:01 <Akien> marja: Or Denmark :p 20:00:15 <Akien> Schultz: I'd say that's worse :) 20:00:23 <marja> Akien: well, I was thinking of places where our sysadmins live 20:00:39 <MrsB> it involves people more to host it ourselves imho. better for the community. 20:00:41 <Akien> marja: Who lives in Finland? :) 20:00:58 <marja> Akien: tmb 20:01:09 <Akien> marja: Ah I thought he was in Sweden... /me hides 20:01:17 <Akien> MrsB: Yes I agree 20:01:28 <Schultz> Akien: maybe, but you can at least drop stuff there without needing an email from a specific providor 20:01:43 <Akien> Schultz: Well you need a gmail account no? :) 20:01:54 <Akien> If sysadmins are busy with other stuff, we could try to setup a first instance of mediagoblin for example on a non-Mageia server 20:02:09 <Schultz> Akien: nope, you need one to host the drive but not to submit to it iirc 20:02:09 <Akien> Maybe Stormi could find us some space on madb's server :) 20:02:30 <Stormi> Space is not a problem, the web interface is what requires configuration 20:02:31 <MrsB> people would object to us using google i think 20:03:18 <Schultz> whither the objection is larger than yahoo is probably splitting hairs, but ideally we should avid both 20:03:29 <grenoya> yes, they were objecting on using yahoo already 20:04:48 <Schultz> exactly, so either an independant service or our own would be ideal 20:05:41 <Akien> Note that one can test a demo of mediagoblin online, without installing it: https://demo.sandstorm.io/appdemo/70awyqss6jq2gkz7dwzsnvumzr07256pzdt3hda9acfuxwh6uh7h 20:06:14 <Akien> Last time we talked about this (last year), I tried it and it was doing fine for our needs 20:08:15 <Stormi> Maybe in order to be efficient we should mission one or two people to look for solutions and make a proposal, or two proposals (one in our infra, one out of it) 20:09:52 * Akien notices that coling went /away :p 20:10:06 <papoteur> If the critical point is the usage of external identity, we have to install our own site to use our ldap? 20:11:35 <MrsB> yes afaik. tmb had some suggestions last time we talked, but he's broken atm 20:13:25 <MrsB> let's add it to ToDo list for now. Somebody email sysadmins about it? 20:15:57 <MrsB> any volunteers? 20:17:26 <marja> MrsB: an action for atelier team? 20:17:38 <MrsB> Schultz: grenoya 20:18:02 * MrsB notices everyone has gone /away :p 20:18:09 <Stormi> indeed 20:18:12 <Akien> I guess I'll do it then 20:18:16 <Schultz> i can email sysadmin about this 20:18:42 * Akien takes back what he just said. 20:18:48 <Akien> Phew, one thing less on my todo list :p 20:18:53 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:18:55 <MrsB> that's your homework then Schultz 20:19:32 <MrsB> what's next ennael? 20:20:23 <DavidWHodgins> The blog being reloaded? 20:20:24 <ennael> ok 20:20:31 <ennael> some more homework coming :) 20:20:36 <ennael> #topic Mageia blog reloaded 20:20:43 <MrsB> \o/ 20:21:12 <ennael> sooooooo.... 20:21:34 <ennael> we need to resuscitate it :) 20:21:35 <MrsB> Lewis mentioned in QA meeting that he intends to finish some posts, he was going to get in touch with atelier 20:21:59 <MrsB> mga5 release posts that didn't get done 20:22:00 <Akien> So basically we had some blog posts in the making, then we forgot about them during Summer, and then the pads were wiped out... 20:22:01 <Stormi> He did rework a small isodumper blog post 20:22:17 * Akien goes checking whether archive.org might have the old WIPs. 20:22:19 <Stormi> yeah my bad, I started it and let it die :) 20:23:06 * MrsB looks at atelier 20:23:18 <maat> hi there 20:23:20 <Schultz> thats something else that would be nce to have, an internal pad system that doesnt get wiped, but its very low priority 20:23:29 <Stormi> Lewis tended to send me drafts directly because he didn't want to join the atelier ML 20:23:35 <Stormi> Has he changed his mind? 20:23:54 <maat> the only day i can hello you is when i'm ill and stunk in bed :-( 20:24:06 <maat> marja: thaks for the ping 20:24:20 <maat> +n 20:24:24 <MrsB> morning maat 20:24:29 <marja> maat: we don't wish for you to fall ill 20:24:36 <Schultz> there was also more recent discussion on it and I think we settled on an order to publish them in - ill try and find the thread 20:25:02 <MrsB> not sure Stormi, drop an email and see. He's away for a couple fo weeks now though 20:26:07 <Stormi> He sent the isodumper draft to papoteur 20:26:21 <MrsB> we really need continual blog postings, at least one a week 20:26:27 <Stormi> so atelier should see with him for the continuing of that blog post 20:26:29 <MrsB> magazine style 20:26:51 <papoteur> I replied with my part 20:26:53 <Akien> MrsB: Yes I agree 20:27:03 <Akien> Not that for pads, we could use https://annuel.framapad.org to make sure they don't get nuked 20:27:05 <[mbot> [ Framapad annuel ] 20:27:10 <Akien> "annuel" means "yearly" 20:27:31 <Akien> So if we manage to finish our work in less than 365 days, it should be fine 20:27:36 <Stormi> Akien: there's also framapads without a limit 20:27:40 <ennael> sorry no more connexion 20:27:48 <Akien> Stormi: Or that yes :D 20:27:52 <MrsB> could maybe change the wordpress theme to somethign more accommodating of magazine style postings, to take away the feeling of it being annoucnements 20:27:54 <Schultz> well a year should be ok, even for us 20:28:02 <ennael> hosting our own pad will eat a lot of resources 20:28:08 <Stormi> I'm the one who chose one-month limit /o\ 20:29:12 <MrsB> nothing about mga5 happened on time 20:29:13 <Schultz> looking at the order we half chose, we shoul publish on an as ready basis with the isodumper post coming out with the eol post 20:30:58 <MrsB> can you rev people up Schultz, get some ideas together. 20:31:20 <Schultz> will try, shouldnt be too hard hopefully 20:31:33 <MrsB> hoping this could be something to keep atelier ticking over 20:33:24 <Akien> We should also write a They Make Mageia I think 20:33:44 <MrsB> need a victim 20:34:41 <MrsB> have you been a victim yet akien? 20:35:03 <Akien> I can't, I'm the one publishing the articles :p 20:35:05 * ennael pushes Akien in front of MrsB 20:35:11 <Schultz> yeah I was just going to suggest Akien 20:35:19 <MrsB> that 3-1 so far 20:35:28 <Schultz> I can publish it if it helps :) 20:35:35 <MrsB> that's decided then 20:35:45 <MrsB> well volunteered Akien 20:36:34 <MrsB> what's next ennael? 20:36:37 <Stormi> Well I'm sure he would have but doesn't want to suggest it himself, would look like "hey talk about me talk about me" :) 20:36:55 <Stormi> So you had to volunteer him yourself :) 20:37:55 <ennael> next one is stormi 20:38:00 <Akien> :p 20:38:05 <ennael> gnarc 20:38:06 <Stormi> too late 20:38:08 <MrsB> we had a stormi 20:38:14 <ennael> damned 20:38:20 <MrsB> think he was first 20:38:22 <Akien> Next one is ennael... 20:38:40 <ennael> next topic ! 20:38:45 <Schultz> yep, we could probably do 4 or 5 on her 20:38:45 <ennael> #topic Teams review 20:39:40 <MrsB> QA team has had a busy few months, coping wonderfully well with a largely absent leader 20:39:53 <wilcal> Many thanks to all the team 20:40:16 <ennael> yep you did it :) 20:40:30 <Stormi> in spite of luigi 20:40:34 <MrsB> lol 20:40:59 <MrsB> there have been a ton of updates since mga5 release 20:41:14 <ennael> yep so we planned a packager meeting for tomorrow 20:41:19 <Stormi> do we know how many? 20:41:37 <ennael> one of the topic will be about the tasks of a packager including security updates 20:41:44 <MrsB> we're quite looking forward now to mga4 eol and will be clearing as many of the remaining mga4 updates before it goes. 20:42:18 <Stormi> so that you're ready for the next 78 rounds of ISOs 20:42:32 <MrsB> http://advisories.mageia.org/ gives you an idea 20:42:33 <[mbot> [ Mageia Advisories ] 20:42:58 <MrsB> most updates are for both releases so take the number and roughly double it 20:43:46 <MrsB> I owe a debt of thanks to DavidWHodgins, wilcal, lewis and everybody who kept things going admirably, growing in the process 20:44:13 <MrsB> and luigi12 and akien 20:44:16 <DavidWHodgins> I've barely done anything. 20:44:31 <MrsB> just doing the advisories is a task in itself 20:44:39 <Stormi> dozens of advisories 20:46:03 <MrsB> QA team done :) 20:46:17 <Stormi> I can do bugteam 20:46:27 <ennael> ok :) 20:47:19 <Stormi> Teams is not organized in any way except marja and me talking on IRC (my fault mainly), but most new bugs get triaged 20:47:28 <Stormi> either from the team or from packagers 20:47:47 <MrsB> blog post for new team members maybe? 20:48:09 <Stormi> team leaders making the ML alive first I think :) 20:48:37 <Stormi> We had an apprentice, but haven't followed the subject closely so I don't know at what state it is 20:48:55 <Stormi> But as I said, globally bugs are triaged at least once 20:49:13 <Stormi> sometimes with several days, sometimes (more rarely) weeks 20:49:22 <Stormi> of delay 20:49:39 <marja> there were two apprentices, one of them disappeared silently, the other is waiting for an operation and is on too heavy medication or in too much pein to contribute 20:50:09 <grenoya> sorry, I have to go. good night 20:50:14 <Stormi> night grenoya 20:50:17 <MrsB> nite grenoya 20:50:17 <marja> I'll try to contact the second one again, haven't talked to him in a long time 20:50:22 <marja> grenoya: night 20:50:38 <Stormi> Now where we have to improve is on the visibility of what there is to do 20:50:48 <Stormi> QA has the madb updates page 20:50:54 <marja> s/pein/pain/ 20:51:02 <MrsB> couldn't cope without that page now 20:51:19 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed 20:51:33 <Stormi> bugsquad has wiki pages but no "alive" page, except from shared searches 20:51:45 <DavidWHodgins> It not only shows what needs to be done, but the priority of the updates. 20:51:52 <Stormi> so I plan to try and develop something to see if it helps 20:52:01 <MrsB> ahh nice idea 20:52:08 <marja> :-D 20:52:43 <Stormi> And it's been one week since I don't work anymore on mondays, so that's the day when I can do that kind of stuff 20:52:56 <marja> \o/ 20:53:06 <Stormi> I've started with fixing some issues in madb and next step is tools for bugsquad 20:53:07 <MrsB> we can fill your mondays 20:53:42 <Stormi> Now, about bugsquad, is there something that other teams would like to see improved? 20:53:48 <Stormi> Packagers for example 20:54:30 <ennael> well we need to improve the way packagers work in team 20:54:53 <ennael> but having bugsquad team in meetings would be nice 20:54:59 <ennael> to have feedbacks 20:55:06 <Stormi> in packager meetings you mean? 20:55:13 <ennael> yep 20:55:25 <MrsB> tomorrow 20:55:28 <Stormi> Since I'm also a packager I guess I've got now 2 reasons to attend them 20:55:28 <marja> it would be nice if bugs got auto-reassigned when the maintainer of a package changes 20:56:30 <MrsB> that sounds like it could be doable 20:56:42 <Stormi> or at least that we would get notifications about such changes 20:56:58 <Stormi> I'm not fond of automated changes, they often do mistakes 20:56:59 <marja> Stormi: yes, that would be much better than what we have now 20:57:22 <Stormi> I think madb could do it too, but there's some work 20:57:46 <Stormi> I've long wanted to add maintainers in madb so that we can see packages (and bugs) of a given maintainer 20:57:54 <marja> nice 20:57:57 <Stormi> but enough for tonight, next team! 20:58:06 <Akien> Regarding packaging needs in bug triage, I think we need to add one or several categories for bugs in the Mageia tools 20:58:24 <Akien> Currently sorting everything by checking if the RPM field is drakx* is not really convenient 20:58:36 <Akien> But we'll discuss that more in detail tomorrow 20:58:39 <Stormi> ok 20:58:58 <ennael> yep 20:59:23 <wilcal> Note: I've something to share before this meeting closes 20:59:47 <marja> wilcal: what's the topic? 21:00:16 <wilcal> KInda a marketing thing but may also effect our choice of server usage 21:00:47 <marja> ennael: do you want to hear more team reviews, or can wilcal's topic come now? 21:01:34 <Latte> just to tell: I don't have any news on i18n 21:02:04 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Looks like you may as well go ahead. 21:02:06 <ennael> ok any words about docteam ? 21:03:29 <marja> ennael: the docteam leaders are not here and I don't have anything new (except that pasmatt might need a hand, there's two languages for which the documentation didn't yet get packaged) 21:03:39 <ennael> ok no pb :) 21:03:45 <ennael> wilcal: your turn then 21:03:56 <wilcal> Something for all to think about 21:04:03 <wilcal> There's been an out reach to Mageia from Amazon Web Services (AWS) from: 21:04:05 <wilcal> Matthew Freeman, Partner Development Manager, Amazon Web Services 21:04:06 <wilcal> https://aws.amazon.com/ 21:04:07 <[mbot> [ Amazon Web Services (AWS) - Cloud Computing Services ] 21:04:08 <wilcal> Matt attempted to make contact (contact@mageia.org ) several times with Mageia about 5 months ago and got no response. 21:04:09 <wilcal> Remco Rijnders brought this up a some days ago and I took it upon myself to investigate what's going on. 21:04:11 <wilcal> I have successfully contacted Matt, he's for real, and I will have a conference call with him tomorrow. 21:04:12 <wilcal> I will neither promise, nor commit, to anything and will report back here what comes out of that meeting. 21:04:14 <wilcal> Think of AWS as a super gargantuan VirtualBox where the Clients can be accessed by anyone on the web. 21:04:15 <wilcal> And the Clients can be almost infinitely large and fast. AWS is the largest service of its kind in the world. 21:04:17 <wilcal> I won't speculate until after the meeting as to what's in this for AWS and Mageia. 21:04:18 <wilcal> I now have my own AWS account that I've been tinkering with. Nothing Mageia has been run in there. 21:04:20 <wilcal> For a peek as to what AWS offers: 21:04:21 <wilcal> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/ 21:04:22 <[mbot> [ AWS Marketplace: Find and Buy Server Software and Services that Run on the AWS Cloud ] 21:04:23 <marja> #topic AWS 21:04:55 <ennael> ah damned... indeed I've seen that mails 21:04:55 <marja> (see what wilcal said above) 21:05:03 <ennael> I was not sure it was really for real :) 21:05:10 <wilcal> If anyone has any experience with AWS please share 21:05:17 <wilcal> Ya it's real 21:05:23 <MrsB> Wasn't there some work on this before? 21:05:49 <Stormi> Well yes AWS is a nice service 21:06:05 <ennael> it's a good way to spread mageia 21:06:16 <MrsB> it'd be nice to spin up some mageia instances for testing/QA maybe 21:06:18 <marja> Luigi12_work: the topic is AWS now (see where wilcal started talking, ± two minutes ago) 21:06:21 <wilcal> IMO they're a little light on their core OS's and they may be reaching out to us for another partner 21:06:38 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like they charge for some of the linux distros, but not for others. 21:06:59 <wilcal> The real costing is in the AWS usage charges 21:07:12 <wilcal> I'm wondering if it's a little like YouTube 21:07:21 <DavidWHodgins> Ubuntu and Centos are free. The rest all have charges. 21:07:30 <wilcal> you get your OS's on there and get paid if someone uses them 21:07:41 <ennael> wilcal: think about virtual machines you can rent 21:07:44 <wilcal> well not exactly free you got to pay AWS for usage charges 21:07:55 <ennael> you choose an OS and then you buy some resoureces and disk space 21:07:55 <wilcal> Ya kinda like watching youtube videos 21:08:15 <wilcal> I'm thinking they may want to add Mageia to their listing of OS's 21:08:38 <MrsB> We'd like mageia to be available on AWS presumably too 21:08:43 <wilcal> One thing I want to make sure of is someone else using "Free" Mageia and getting paid for us and not Mageia 21:09:00 <MrsB> find out what technical challenges there are and procedural stuff 21:09:13 <wilcal> Ya if Mageia was say a desktop choice 21:09:15 <DavidWHodgins> Depends on what's required on our end. I'm not a big fan of Amazon. 21:09:35 <wilcal> theirs only one Ubuntu desktop on AWS and that's not from Connical and it costs 21:09:59 <wilcal> Well AWS is the Super Gorilla in the Store 21:10:12 <MrsB> they're 3rd party for others too 21:10:15 <ennael> having server would be great 21:10:30 <wilcal> anyway I'll find out what's going on their and report back 21:10:45 <ennael> thanks for managing it 21:10:48 <MrsB> could they donate us some resources ask too 21:11:06 <wilcal> that's it from me 21:11:11 <Stormi> maybe not in the first interview :) 21:11:19 <ennael> :) 21:11:51 <MrsB> well done wilcal 21:12:23 <ennael> ok any other comment, question ? 21:12:38 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here. 21:12:51 <Akien> Not from me. 21:12:57 <MrsB> all done 21:13:09 <MrsB> thanks for the meeting ennael 21:13:11 <ennael> ok thanks all for being there 21:13:13 <marja> nothing here 21:13:13 <Latte> no - almost sleeping 21:13:18 <ennael> :) 21:13:31 <ennael> have a good night and see you for next meeting 21:13:35 <ennael> #endmeeting