20:09:19 <ennael> #startmeeting 20:09:19 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Mon Mar 2 20:09:19 2015 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:09:19 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:09:31 <ennael> so another council dedicated to coming Mageia 5 20:09:37 <ennael> thanks all for attending 20:10:52 <MrsB> o/ 20:11:06 <MrsB> not many of us here today 20:11:11 <ennael> yep 20:11:23 <ennael> so we may be able to make it short :) 20:11:41 <ennael> ok QA team, want to review first isos tests? 20:12:11 <MrsB> there was alot of feedback and many installer issues, which I understand are mostly now fixed 20:13:05 <MrsB> there are still one or two like the details screen not scrolling 20:13:33 <MrsB> dualdvd had issues, fixed in next ones i believe 20:13:51 <ennael> I hope so yes 20:14:24 <MrsB> mcc quitting has been widely discussed on qa-d 20:14:56 <ennael> yep and it seems luc proposal seems to fix this 20:15:08 <ennael> just need some more feedbacks/tests 20:15:14 <MrsB> I'd like us to include hexchat in gnome & lxde installs as IRC is needed by mageiawelcome and it tries to install hexchat if none are present 20:15:14 <tmb> the ones in updates_testing ? 20:15:33 <ennael> yep 20:15:56 <MrsB> no efi related moans recently, which is a good sign 20:16:04 <DavidWHodgins> Yep 20:16:19 <tmb> or people have given up ... 20:16:22 * tmb hides 20:16:27 <DavidWHodgins> lol 20:16:28 <MrsB> lol nooo surely not 20:16:40 <ennael> :) 20:16:49 <MrsB> I'll prod for efi feedback with next ISOs 20:17:00 <ennael> MrsB: so can you ensure we have some feedbacks for mcc bug? 20:17:14 <ennael> I've asked for some in bugzilla 20:17:25 <MrsB> Ok, i'll find the bug after 20:17:43 <ennael> if it's ok then we can move it to release for next set of isos 20:18:02 <DavidWHodgins> I think Luc's updates testing fix should be included in the next set of isos. 20:18:30 <ennael> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15375 20:18:32 <[mbot> [ Bug 15375 M5B3 MCC windows not closing properly (gtk+2.0-2.24.26 regression) ] 20:19:38 <DavidWHodgins> We've had one report confirming it fixes the problem, with no regressions, so I think it would be safe to include them. 20:20:26 <MrsB> Added something to the bug. I'll mail the list too 20:20:42 <ennael> wilcal (hope it's him :)) can also test it 20:20:50 <ennael> would be nice to have his feedbacks 20:21:36 <MrsB> I think we're at a stage now we're ready to test next ISOs but let's get some feedback for that one yeah 20:22:11 <MrsB> tmb: did you track down the draklive issue? 20:22:23 <MrsB> morning wilcal 20:22:24 <ennael> gtk updates are always a pain 20:22:37 <wilcal> After noon better late then never 20:22:50 <DavidWHodgins> Hi wilcal 20:22:52 <MrsB> It might be worth moving the installer to qt 20:23:18 <MrsB> wilcal could you try the mcc fix please https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15375 20:23:20 <[mbot> [ Bug 15375 M5B3 MCC windows not closing properly (gtk+2.0-2.24.26 regression) ] 20:23:31 <DavidWHodgins> What happened to the project to make drakx tools run with gtk, or qt, or curses? 20:23:46 <MrsB> ongoing, mga6 target i think 20:23:47 <ennael> MrsB: please don't propose that on ML :) 20:24:03 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:24:16 <wilcal> will do 20:24:19 <MrsB> thanks 20:24:20 <ennael> thanks wilcal 20:25:48 <Akien> Hi there (reading backlog) 20:26:10 <MrsB> morning Akien 20:27:13 <ennael> ok anything else ? 20:27:15 <DavidWHodgins> I haven't opened a bug report about it, but one thing I noticed, was that when adding media at the end of the install, there is now no feedback. It took long enough, I thought my network connection was probably down again, but then it finished, just as I was about to abort it. 20:27:33 <MrsB> we're slowly moving away from the 'omg everything is broken' comments to the 'this bit isn't working right' and 'this icon is missing' 20:27:42 <ennael> :) 20:28:26 <wilcal> on real hardware how we do'n with UEFI? 20:28:54 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Recent feedback has been good so far. 20:29:13 <MrsB> bit of a lack of feedback really, which is probably a good sign. I asked Vlad and Lewis to track it but lewis is away this week. I'll ask Vlad how it's looking 20:29:37 <MrsB> he gave a good summary previously 20:31:12 <ennael> thanks wilcal input on pending bugs? 20:31:16 <ennael> raaaa 20:31:26 <ennael> tmb: any input on pending bugs? 20:31:31 * ennael needs new fingers 20:31:56 <MrsB> there has been a bit of frustration with testers not seeing the bugs getting fixed so I think the next ISOs will be welcomed. I know there has been good progress 20:32:47 <tmb> tbh, I haven't done much since last qa meeting due to funeral last weekend 20:33:10 <DavidWHodgins> Ouch 20:33:20 <ennael> tmb: all my condolences btw... 20:33:25 <MrsB> sorry to hear it, yes 20:33:33 <wilcal> no problem I try to do something meaningful every day 20:34:58 <MrsB> there was one report of a kde install not able to shut down after resuming from sleep 20:35:17 <MrsB> shutdown from cli but not menu 20:36:52 <ennael> bug number ? 20:37:12 <MrsB> unknown, report from Brian Rockwell 20:39:45 <ennael> just saw your mail 20:39:46 <ennael> thanks 20:40:12 <ennael> looks like also gnome-icon bug should be solved and upgrade issue also 20:40:34 <MrsB> ok. If there are any issues like that just let me know 20:40:48 <ennael> ok 20:40:57 <MrsB> yes, hope so. I found testing difficult due to 195 failed transactions 20:41:04 <MrsB> bug for that somewhere 20:41:08 <ennael> yep 20:41:58 <ennael> anything else for testing? 20:42:23 <MrsB> thierry added a fix for perl-URPM so it should now report the correct package when there is a "scriptlet failed" 20:42:33 <ennael> ok 20:42:37 <DavidWHodgins> That should help 20:42:40 <MrsB> yeah 20:42:58 <MrsB> he's been busy recently 20:43:18 <MrsB> think we're just ready for new isos now ennael really 20:43:44 <ennael> yep just waiting for gtk from testing then it should be ok 20:43:49 <ennael> so we wait for wilcal test :) 20:43:56 <MrsB> yep 20:44:07 <wilcal> should be through it by this evening California time 20:44:45 <wilcal> did that package just get put in the M5 repo? 20:44:51 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: So within 9 hours? 20:44:57 <wilcal> Easy 20:45:24 <wilcal> By morning European time I should be through it 20:45:29 <MrsB> cool, thanks 20:45:52 <ennael> great 20:45:54 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: It's been there since yesterday. 20:46:18 <DavidWHodgins> In the cauldron core updates_testing repo. 20:47:10 <DavidWHodgins> Just install the *gtk* packages, from that repo. 20:49:22 <wilcal> gtk+2.0-2.24.26-2.mga5.i586.rpm 20:49:55 <DavidWHodgins> and the 4 lib{64}gtk* packages 20:50:26 <MrsB> rpms listed here https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15375#c14 20:50:28 <[mbot> [ Bug 15375 M5B3 MCC windows not closing properly (gtk+2.0-2.24.26 regression) ] 20:50:49 <ennael> ok anything else ? 20:51:01 <MrsB> all done, i think 20:51:16 <MrsB> lxde slow shutdown issue maybe 20:51:17 <wilcal> got it 20:51:23 <MrsB> ordering syscle 20:51:26 <MrsB> cycle 20:52:03 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15168 20:52:05 <[mbot> [ Bug 15168 5beta3: LXDE takes several minutes to shutdown/reboot (ordering cycle on display-manager-failure.service/start) ] 20:55:51 <ennael> ok 20:55:54 <Akien> This might need pinging colin 20:56:00 <ennael> indeed 20:56:59 <Akien> I'll see if I can reproduce, I think I have a LXDE VM 20:57:09 <MrsB> there was a btrfs issue in installer which will need Thomas input butthere is time for that yet 20:57:57 <Akien> What about vlad's big issues with the diskdrake auto-partitioning? 20:58:37 <Akien> It seems pretty critical since there could be important data loss 20:58:45 <Akien> Did he open a bug report for it? 20:59:28 <MrsB> not sure which you mean? 21:00:03 <Akien> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15242 21:00:05 <[mbot> [ Bug 15242 Suggested safety and usability improvements for installer (partitioner) in Mga5 Beta 3 Release 2(Classical iso) ] 21:00:28 <Akien> "Specifically, if the user selects a particular disk for partitioning, and invokes either the 'use entire disk' or 'auto-allocate', the partitioner can decide to use a disk other than the one selected by the user, without warning. The 'use entire disk' is particularly dangerous as it does the damage immediately and with no prior warning of any kind." 21:01:42 <MrsB> no work on it yet by the look of it 21:01:50 <Akien> I see vlad added a mention to the errata 21:02:41 <Akien> ennael seems to say it will have to wait for mga6 21:03:13 <MrsB> So it seems more that the partitioner touches disks it's not told to touch 21:03:21 <wilcal> And I think UEFI further complicates this 21:04:08 <MrsB> create a separate bug for it akien. The current bug contains too much info really, needs narrower focus 21:05:54 <Akien> MrsB: True, I was about to CC tv but such a bug might bug him :-p 21:06:00 <MrsB> so we still have release blockers but there should now be visible progress 21:06:09 <MrsB> yes he'll ask for separate bugs 21:06:52 <Akien> I'll ask vlad to create separate bugs (as ennael said the current one is a nice basis for suggestions for the mga6 specs, but hard to work with) 21:07:12 <MrsB> you brought it up :P 21:08:31 <Akien> It's his bug :-p 21:08:38 <ennael> :) 21:09:20 <ennael> ok are we done for this meeting? 21:09:37 <wilcal> I need to go get Groceries :-)) 21:09:37 <DavidWHodgins> I'm running a kde x86_64 install, and will test the mcc closing bug shortly. 21:09:44 <MrsB> think so, yes. I'll be available in the mornign for any early tests 21:09:53 <ennael> ok 21:10:00 <ennael> wilcal: we wait for your tests :) 21:10:07 <ennael> thanks everybody for attending 21:10:25 <ennael> let's go back to release hell :) 21:10:25 <MrsB> thanks anne 21:10:34 <ennael> #endmeeting