20:08:37 <ennael> #startmeeting 20:08:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Mon Jan 26 20:08:37 2015 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:08:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:08:41 <ennael> hi all 20:08:45 <MrsB> o/ 20:08:52 <ennael> so we have 2 topics, FOSDEM and Mageui5 20:09:01 <ennael> #topic FOSDEM 2015 20:09:11 <ennael> so quick sum up about it. grenoya ? 20:09:43 <DavidWHodgins> As I'm in Canada, Fosdem doesn't mean anything to me. 20:09:58 <MrsB> will there be a blog post for it this week? 20:10:18 <grenoya> stickers and T-shirt have been received 20:10:18 <ennael> yep would be nice at least to announce mageia booth 20:10:26 <grenoya> flyers should be OK 20:10:34 <ennael> yep printed last friday 20:10:57 <grenoya> ennael: what about the kakemono? 20:11:10 <ennael> I got it together with table clothe from epilip 20:11:15 <ennael> so now car is full :) 20:11:17 <grenoya> good :) 20:11:31 <tmb> (and driver...) 20:12:02 <grenoya> what is there more to say? 20:12:33 <DavidWHodgins> Let's move on, and keep this meeting short. 20:12:33 <ennael> still waiting for localization for booth and general assembly 20:12:38 <ennael> tmb: :) 20:14:06 <grenoya> ennael: next topic? 20:14:18 <ennael> ok then just after FOSDEM we will have to start process for voting 20:14:21 <ennael> for all teams 20:14:47 <MrsB> team leader elections 20:14:58 <ennael> well whatever the name they give but yes :) 20:15:10 <ennael> ok 20:15:20 <ennael> #topic Mageia 5 todo list 20:15:59 <MrsB> just over a week until first builds for beta 3 20:16:42 <ennael> indeed 20:16:50 <MrsB> in fact should be having them now, release is just over a week away 20:17:02 <ennael> we can start with first build 20:17:03 <DavidWHodgins> I don't plan on running for any positions. That will mean I will no longer be a qa team deputy leader, which will also remove me from the council. I think I should also resign from the board. 20:17:35 <ennael> MrsB: we can start it at least to give a general status 20:17:51 <MrsB> yes. I'll email everybody tomorrow 20:17:57 <wilcal> Better late then never 20:18:12 <MrsB> morning wilcal 20:18:15 <wilcal> Any momentious decision 20:18:19 <wilcal> Just afternoon 20:19:33 <MrsB> none yet, we just discussed fosdem stuff 20:20:02 <wilcal> So I'm not late for the M5 stuff 20:20:06 <ennael> nope 20:20:22 <ennael> tmb: anything to speak about isos ? EFI and live isos ? 20:20:49 <wilcal> I'm really happy with the M5B2 isos right now 20:21:13 <wilcal> Did a complete install of the i586 CI yesterday on real hardware. Went great 20:21:26 <ennael> good to hear 20:21:37 <Luigi12_work> yeah, some minor polish issues in the installer, and amarok is unusable, but other than that Cauldron appears to be in great shape 20:21:45 <wilcal> You saw my post on qa-discuss about the CUPS testing i did 20:21:52 <Luigi12_work> yeah that was nice to see 20:22:16 <wilcal> There are still a few outstanding, known, blockers 20:22:20 <Luigi12_work> are we going to start reviewing release blocker bugs with the dev/packaging team at some point? 20:22:42 <wilcal> The black MCC windows thingy and the UEFI thingy 20:22:55 <ennael> so I've started about installer one 20:23:03 <Luigi12_work> haven't seen any black windows, is that hardware-specific? 20:23:04 <ennael> with guys like tv, pterjan and blino 20:23:14 <Luigi12_work> ennael: I see 20:23:19 <wilcal> It's kinda all over the place Luigi 20:23:27 <ennael> it's going slowly but we may have some results soon 20:23:30 <wilcal> not consistant enough to put your finger on it 20:23:42 <MrsB> l10n thing in gnome too is a biggy 20:23:43 <ennael> luc has identified the pb with rpm 20:23:55 <Luigi12_work> yep, I saw that 20:24:00 <wilcal> My laptop does it all the time with the 64-bit KDE Live-DVD so that's a good test platform 20:24:03 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: I think it's video driver specific, from what I've read. 20:24:12 <Luigi12_work> I don't really consider that rpm bug a big issue, other than the packages it may have broken 20:24:31 <ennael> #15691 20:24:35 <Luigi12_work> honestly it's probably a good thing that rpm does that, but we just need to make sure packages are adapted to it 20:24:35 <ennael> oups 20:24:40 <ennael> #14691 20:24:51 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: that makes sense 20:24:55 <wilcal> Take out the oxygen-gt2 ( or something ) theme and it goes away 20:25:05 <ennael> well if you have some input about it Luigi12_work please comment on bugzilla 20:25:13 <ennael> at least for the reporter 20:25:33 <ennael> wilcal: so you confirm it's linked to oxygen? 20:25:43 <Luigi12_work> actually I was the reporter 20:25:46 <DavidWHodgins> I've seen no problems on my two radeon/fglrx systems. 20:26:09 <wilcal> Others have confirmed it I'd have to erase my laptops M4.1 os and I ain't gonna do that 20:26:14 <Luigi12_work> Luc filed the bug, but I reported it first in the dev ml, as Luc pointed out in the bug report. Anyway, I guess it's mostly being handled upstream. For Mageia, the only issue is any affected packages 20:26:22 <ennael> oh ok did not know 20:26:42 <wilcal> Many thanks for the discussion last week. IMO it's gonna come down to UEFT 20:26:45 <wilcal> UEFI 20:26:48 <ennael> Luigi12_work: so can you please add this in bug so that packages affected can be fixed ? 20:27:13 <Luigi12_work> ennael: I don't know which packages are affected. IIRC tv posted a list of "possible" ones on the ml 20:27:43 <Luigi12_work> yeah it's the first reply to my ml post that Luc linked in the bug report 20:27:45 <ennael> ok so this has to be added in bug 20:27:48 <ennael> will have a look 20:27:58 <ennael> tmb: still around ? 20:28:22 <tmb> yep... the connection is not the best... but.. 20:30:01 <tmb> for efi I think I now know the missing pieces to get efi partitioning to work 20:31:02 <wilcal> When you get done with this tmp your gonna be an UEFI expert 20:31:18 <Luigi12_work> I think he already is... 20:31:30 <ennael> :) 20:31:39 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: That sounds like mine. From 1700 to 1900, the connection wil drop 2 or 3 times per hour. The rsync trying to maintain my local repo really doesn't handle that well. 20:32:28 <tmb> and I have a grub2-efi image booting the iso so it will find the kernel outside the efi stub, meaning the isos will gain some free space as I dont need to duplicate kernel and initrd anymore 20:32:31 <DavidWHodgins> It keeps dropping until at least 0700 20:32:52 <ennael> great to hear as size is becoming a pb 20:34:25 <tmb> I'm currently fixing some issues with the build process, but I hope to have new system done by tomorrow. 20:34:34 <MrsB> great news 20:34:46 <tmb> after that we should be able to build first set of beta3 isos 20:35:05 <MrsB> when should i tell people to expect isos? 20:35:29 <MrsB> i think it's safe to say we can expect alot of feedback on efi stuff 20:35:40 <ennael> I should be able to have some tomorrow afternoon without EFI for now 20:35:51 <ennael> at least for general state of installer 20:35:55 <ennael> a,d content 20:36:28 <tmb> I hope to build isos tomorrow, or wednesday at the latest 20:36:38 <MrsB> if I say Wednesday but possibly sooner then 20:36:45 <ennael> yep 20:36:54 <MrsB> i'll send emails in the morning 20:37:04 <MrsB> thanks tmb, looking forward to it 20:37:11 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Perhaps we should also build a zip file, for people running windows. 20:37:21 <wilcal> Do you test in Vbox or real hardware tmb? 20:38:04 <tmb> wilcal, currently I work on vbox, but I will verify it on real hw too 20:38:19 <wilcal> Super I'll also do the same thing here 20:39:06 <MrsB> leaves us tomorrow to clear the updates list wilcal so all ahnds to the pump! 20:39:09 <MrsB> hands 20:39:24 <wilcal> Tues is usually an open day for me to test updates 20:39:42 <MrsB> see if we can clear the list, it'd be an achievement if we can do 20:41:22 <MrsB> morning papoteur- 20:41:32 <ennael> ok I need to get olav for several bugs on GNOME and gtk 20:41:37 <papoteur-> hi 20:41:41 <MrsB> yep 20:41:49 <tmb> good luck with that :) 20:41:56 <ennael> yep :/ 20:42:07 <MrsB> it's going to be a bit awkward with fosdem in the middle, but also an opportunity to poke in person 20:42:24 <ennael> yep It may be the occasion 20:42:41 <tmb> bring a big stick and a lot of matchess 20:42:44 <ennael> I'm planning a bug review with people 20:42:48 <ennael> :) 20:42:51 <MrsB> team beers 20:43:31 <ennael> well meeting people can help sometimes 20:44:11 <ennael> oh btw grenoya we need your help :) 20:44:18 <grenoya> oh? 20:44:27 <ennael> grenoya: can you just ping schulz for the final piece of design 20:44:32 <ennael> still missing KDE splash 20:44:35 <grenoya> oh yes! 20:44:44 <ennael> thanks for that 20:45:00 <Akien> Ah yes I still have to comment on the ksplash-qml version 20:45:22 <MrsB> only a few days to get it in beta 3 20:45:40 <Akien> Ok, will try to get it done tomorrow. 20:46:02 <ennael> thanks Akien 20:46:07 <Akien> For now it's mostly a duplicate of the plymouth theme, I'd like to experiment with something else to break the monotony :) 20:46:27 <ennael> as long as you don't break KDE :) 20:46:48 <Luigi12_work> yes we don't need to make it even with GNOME :o) 20:47:27 <ennael> evil troller :) 20:48:18 <ennael> ok anything else in todo list except hell, matches and troll ? :) 20:48:18 <Akien> Hehe 20:49:10 <MrsB> ready for hell 20:49:50 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: It shouldn't be that bad. 20:50:02 <MrsB> touch wood 20:50:44 <Luigi12_work> be careful it's not a torch 20:50:56 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: in Canada, we say (and do), knock on wood. 20:51:10 <Luigi12_work> yeah that's the expression here too 20:51:14 <ennael> ok thanks for attending all and let's cross fingers for next isos 20:51:18 <MrsB> i'm sure it'll be fine 20:51:20 <Luigi12_work> w00t 20:51:26 <MrsB> thanks ennael 20:51:34 <grenoya> thanks 20:51:38 <ennael> #endmeeting