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20:08:41 <ennael> hi all
20:08:45 <MrsB> o/
20:08:52 <ennael> so we have 2 topics, FOSDEM and Mageui5
20:09:01 <ennael> #topic FOSDEM 2015
20:09:11 <ennael> so quick sum up about it. grenoya ?
20:09:43 <DavidWHodgins> As I'm in Canada, Fosdem doesn't mean anything to me.
20:09:58 <MrsB> will there be a blog post for it this week?
20:10:18 <grenoya> stickers and T-shirt have been received
20:10:18 <ennael> yep would be nice at least to announce mageia booth
20:10:26 <grenoya> flyers should be OK
20:10:34 <ennael> yep printed last friday
20:10:57 <grenoya> ennael: what about the kakemono?
20:11:10 <ennael> I got it together with table clothe from epilip
20:11:15 <ennael> so now car is full :)
20:11:17 <grenoya> good :)
20:11:31 <tmb> (and driver...)
20:12:02 <grenoya> what is there more to say?
20:12:33 <DavidWHodgins> Let's move on, and keep this meeting short.
20:12:33 <ennael> still waiting for localization for booth and general assembly
20:12:38 <ennael> tmb: :)
20:14:06 <grenoya> ennael: next topic?
20:14:18 <ennael> ok then just after FOSDEM we will have to start process for voting
20:14:21 <ennael> for all teams
20:14:47 <MrsB> team leader elections
20:14:58 <ennael> well whatever the name they give but yes :)
20:15:10 <ennael> ok
20:15:20 <ennael> #topic Mageia 5 todo list
20:15:59 <MrsB> just over a week until first builds for beta 3
20:16:42 <ennael> indeed
20:16:50 <MrsB> in fact should be having them now, release is just over a week away
20:17:02 <ennael> we can start with first build
20:17:03 <DavidWHodgins> I don't plan on running for any positions. That will mean I will no longer be a qa team deputy leader, which  will also remove  me from the council. I think I should also resign from the board.
20:17:35 <ennael> MrsB: we can start it at least to give a general status
20:17:51 <MrsB> yes. I'll email everybody tomorrow
20:17:57 <wilcal> Better late then never
20:18:12 <MrsB> morning wilcal
20:18:15 <wilcal> Any momentious decision
20:18:19 <wilcal> Just afternoon
20:19:33 <MrsB> none yet, we just discussed fosdem stuff
20:20:02 <wilcal> So I'm not late for the M5 stuff
20:20:06 <ennael> nope
20:20:22 <ennael> tmb: anything to speak about isos ? EFI and live isos ?
20:20:49 <wilcal> I'm really happy with the M5B2 isos right now
20:21:13 <wilcal> Did a complete install of the i586 CI yesterday on real hardware. Went great
20:21:26 <ennael> good to hear
20:21:37 <Luigi12_work> yeah, some minor polish issues in the installer, and amarok is unusable, but other than that Cauldron appears to be in great shape
20:21:45 <wilcal> You saw my post on qa-discuss about the CUPS testing i did
20:21:52 <Luigi12_work> yeah that was nice to see
20:22:16 <wilcal> There are still a few outstanding, known, blockers
20:22:20 <Luigi12_work> are we going to start reviewing release blocker bugs with the dev/packaging team at some point?
20:22:42 <wilcal> The black MCC windows thingy and the UEFI thingy
20:22:55 <ennael> so I've started about installer one
20:23:03 <Luigi12_work> haven't seen any black windows, is that hardware-specific?
20:23:04 <ennael> with guys like tv, pterjan and blino
20:23:14 <Luigi12_work> ennael: I see
20:23:19 <wilcal> It's kinda all over the place Luigi
20:23:27 <ennael> it's going slowly but we may have some results soon
20:23:30 <wilcal> not consistant enough to put your finger on it
20:23:42 <MrsB> l10n thing in gnome too is a biggy
20:23:43 <ennael> luc has identified the pb with rpm
20:23:55 <Luigi12_work> yep, I saw that
20:24:00 <wilcal> My laptop does it all the time with the 64-bit KDE Live-DVD so that's a good test platform
20:24:03 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: I think it's video driver specific, from what I've read.
20:24:12 <Luigi12_work> I don't really consider that rpm bug a big issue, other than the packages it may have broken
20:24:31 <ennael> #15691
20:24:35 <Luigi12_work> honestly it's probably a good thing that rpm does that, but we just need to make sure packages are adapted to it
20:24:35 <ennael> oups
20:24:40 <ennael> #14691
20:24:51 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: that makes sense
20:24:55 <wilcal> Take out the oxygen-gt2 ( or something ) theme and it goes away
20:25:05 <ennael> well if you have some input about it Luigi12_work please comment on bugzilla
20:25:13 <ennael> at least for the reporter
20:25:33 <ennael> wilcal: so you confirm it's linked to oxygen?
20:25:43 <Luigi12_work> actually I was the reporter
20:25:46 <DavidWHodgins> I've seen no problems on my two radeon/fglrx systems.
20:26:09 <wilcal> Others have confirmed it I'd have to erase my laptops M4.1 os and I ain't gonna do that
20:26:14 <Luigi12_work> Luc filed the bug, but I reported it first in the dev ml, as Luc pointed out in the bug report.  Anyway, I guess it's mostly being handled upstream.  For Mageia, the only issue is any affected packages
20:26:22 <ennael> oh ok did not know
20:26:42 <wilcal> Many thanks for the discussion last week. IMO it's gonna come down to UEFT
20:26:45 <wilcal> UEFI
20:26:48 <ennael> Luigi12_work: so can you please add this in bug so that packages affected can be fixed ?
20:27:13 <Luigi12_work> ennael: I don't know which packages are affected.  IIRC tv posted a list of "possible" ones on the ml
20:27:43 <Luigi12_work> yeah it's the first reply to my ml post that Luc linked in the bug report
20:27:45 <ennael> ok so this has to be added in bug
20:27:48 <ennael> will have a look
20:27:58 <ennael> tmb: still around ?
20:28:22 <tmb> yep... the connection is not the best... but..
20:30:01 <tmb> for efi I think I now know the missing pieces to get efi partitioning to work
20:31:02 <wilcal> When you get done with this tmp your gonna be an UEFI expert
20:31:18 <Luigi12_work> I think he already is...
20:31:30 <ennael> :)
20:31:39 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: That sounds like mine. From 1700 to 1900, the connection wil drop 2 or 3 times per hour. The rsync trying to maintain my local repo really doesn't handle that well.
20:32:28 <tmb> and I have a grub2-efi image booting the iso so it will find the kernel outside the efi stub, meaning the isos will gain some free space as I dont need to duplicate kernel and initrd anymore
20:32:31 <DavidWHodgins> It keeps dropping until at least 0700
20:32:52 <ennael> great to hear as size is becoming a pb
20:34:25 <tmb> I'm currently fixing some issues with the build process, but I hope to have new system done by tomorrow.
20:34:34 <MrsB> great news
20:34:46 <tmb> after that we should be able to build first set of beta3 isos
20:35:05 <MrsB> when should i tell people to expect isos?
20:35:29 <MrsB> i think it's safe to say we can expect alot of feedback on efi stuff
20:35:40 <ennael> I should be able to have some tomorrow afternoon without EFI for now
20:35:51 <ennael> at least for general state of installer
20:35:55 <ennael> a,d content
20:36:28 <tmb> I hope to build isos tomorrow, or wednesday at the latest
20:36:38 <MrsB> if I say Wednesday but possibly sooner then
20:36:45 <ennael> yep
20:36:54 <MrsB> i'll send emails in the morning
20:37:04 <MrsB> thanks tmb, looking forward to it
20:37:11 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Perhaps we should also build a zip file, for people running windows.
20:37:21 <wilcal> Do you test in Vbox or real hardware tmb?
20:38:04 <tmb> wilcal, currently I work on vbox, but I will verify it on real hw too
20:38:19 <wilcal> Super I'll also do the same thing here
20:39:06 <MrsB> leaves us tomorrow to clear the updates list wilcal so all ahnds to the pump!
20:39:09 <MrsB> hands
20:39:24 <wilcal> Tues is usually an open day for me to test updates
20:39:42 <MrsB> see if we can clear the list, it'd be an achievement if we can do
20:41:22 <MrsB> morning papoteur-
20:41:32 <ennael> ok I need to get olav for several bugs on GNOME and gtk
20:41:37 <papoteur-> hi
20:41:41 <MrsB> yep
20:41:49 <tmb> good luck with that :)
20:41:56 <ennael> yep :/
20:42:07 <MrsB> it's going to be a bit awkward with fosdem in the middle, but also an opportunity to poke in person
20:42:24 <ennael> yep It may be the occasion
20:42:41 <tmb> bring a big stick and a lot of matchess
20:42:44 <ennael> I'm planning a bug review with people
20:42:48 <ennael> :)
20:42:51 <MrsB> team beers
20:43:31 <ennael> well meeting people can help sometimes
20:44:11 <ennael> oh btw grenoya we need your help :)
20:44:18 <grenoya> oh?
20:44:27 <ennael> grenoya: can you just ping schulz for the final piece of design
20:44:32 <ennael> still missing KDE splash
20:44:35 <grenoya> oh yes!
20:44:44 <ennael> thanks for that
20:45:00 <Akien> Ah yes I still have to comment on the ksplash-qml version
20:45:22 <MrsB> only a few days to get it in beta 3
20:45:40 <Akien> Ok, will try to get it done tomorrow.
20:46:02 <ennael> thanks Akien
20:46:07 <Akien> For now it's mostly a duplicate of the plymouth theme, I'd like to experiment with something else to break the monotony :)
20:46:27 <ennael> as long as you don't break KDE :)
20:46:48 <Luigi12_work> yes we don't need to make it even with GNOME :o)
20:47:27 <ennael> evil troller :)
20:48:18 <ennael> ok anything else in todo list except hell, matches and troll ? :)
20:48:18 <Akien> Hehe
20:49:10 <MrsB> ready for hell
20:49:50 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: It shouldn't be that bad.
20:50:02 <MrsB> touch wood
20:50:44 <Luigi12_work> be careful it's not a torch
20:50:56 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: in Canada, we say (and do), knock on wood.
20:51:10 <Luigi12_work> yeah that's the expression here too
20:51:14 <ennael> ok thanks for attending all and let's cross fingers for next isos
20:51:18 <MrsB> i'm sure it'll be fine
20:51:20 <Luigi12_work> w00t
20:51:26 <MrsB> thanks ennael
20:51:34 <grenoya> thanks
20:51:38 <ennael> #endmeeting