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20:43:48 <ennael> #topic Mageia 5 beta2
20:44:12 <ennael> ok let's go then
20:44:17 <sebsebseb> hi
20:44:27 <ennael> do we have QA guys around?
20:44:34 <wilcal> I'm here
20:44:39 <ennael> hi :)
20:44:54 <wilcal> I thought that the last go was more then adequite to turn loose
20:45:14 <wilcal> but I think you want to go one more time for qa to look at it
20:45:36 <ennael> sorry I don't understand
20:46:13 <wilcal> The last set of ISO's I got looked to me just fine for general release as M5B2
20:46:31 <wilcal> But I see TMB and you want to go one more test release
20:46:46 <ennael> well would be nice to have very last updates
20:46:56 <ennael> it fixed some issues at least
20:47:02 <wilcal> It's been what 3-weeks since the last release
20:47:14 <wilcal> so probably best to go one more round
20:47:24 <ennael> yep ok
20:47:34 <ennael> I've tested some isos today and it looks not bad
20:47:42 <ennael> will rebuild it just after meeting
20:47:49 <ennael> tmb: any feedback on isos ?
20:47:55 <sebsebseb> is the new artwork in there now?
20:48:03 <wilcal> There's some stuff in there that's gotta see a wider release
20:49:14 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11969
20:49:16 <[mbot> [ Bug 11969 embedded rpmdrake in MCC is rendering black with some non-english locales ]
20:49:20 <grenoya> sebsebseb: please don't go off topic
20:49:24 <wilcal> gotta see a wider testing
20:49:35 <ennael> ok
20:49:48 <wilcal> I don't think that has anything to do with a language
20:49:50 <tmb> well, I have not made much progress due to health issues, but I'm getting there... but I wont promisa any ETA for now as I go on a ay to day basis for now...
20:50:00 <Akien> Hi and happy new year :)-
20:50:10 <wilcal> It's a release blocker too
20:50:14 <wilcal> Hello Akien
20:50:53 <tmb> then we have the gnome bug not following configured keyboard/language
20:53:16 <ennael> can we help you? we can ask other people about some specific bugs
20:55:30 <tmb> well, the gnome bug is not live media specific, just upgrade from mga4 to cauldron and watch gnome loose its settings
20:56:12 <tmb> ah, found it: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14476
20:56:15 <[mbot> [ Bug 14476 gdm and gnome fail to use the right keyboard layout ]
20:56:54 <ennael> ok I take it with matches and will hunt for volunteer :à
20:56:55 <ennael> :)
20:57:52 <ennael> what about EFI? shall we release as it.
20:57:53 <ennael> ?
20:59:02 <Akien> Personally I'd be tempted to release Mageia 5 final only when we have EFI support. But that's a lot of weight on tmb's shoulders, so I'm not sure it would be the best way to go to let him take care of his health.
20:59:20 <Akien> But at least on forums, we see more and more users with EFI that struggle to install Mageia.
20:59:50 <tmb> for EFI I'll try to get it working on live medias first, and if it works out merge the stuff with drakx so classical installer can use it too
21:00:56 <ennael> ok so we can release beta2 without it for now
21:00:59 <tmb> I've squashed some bugs in both efibootmgr and in grub2-efi so I can focus on the installer part
21:01:10 <ennael> ok
21:01:44 <tmb> then we have the fact that the installer is not capable of creating gpt partitioning on a clean disk
21:02:26 <tmb> I had one version almost working on an older system that died on me, so I have to "recreate it from memory" :/
21:02:35 <ennael> arf
21:03:11 <tmb> thats the downside of ssds... when they die, it's all gone :/
21:03:34 <ennael> indeed
21:04:46 <tmb> anyway, if we sync repo tonight, I will rebuild isos after that and we'll see how it works out
21:05:02 <ennael> ok let's do that then
21:05:26 <tmb> Akien, yes I agree we need EFI in Mga5
21:06:24 <tmb> that's all for me for now
21:06:34 <ennael> ok thanks tmb
21:06:46 <ennael> so next set of isos coming for tonight and tomorrow morning
21:06:50 <ennael> wilcal: be ready :)
21:07:10 <wilcal> I have an open day tomorrow remember I'm 9-hours behind you guys
21:07:21 <ennael> great :)
21:08:33 <wilcal> Open bug list waiting for validating is modest at the present time, manageable
21:09:03 <ennael> :)
21:09:20 <wilcal> We got some good workers in QA  :-))
21:09:20 <ennael> ok so planned date is for tomorrow let see how it goes
21:10:30 <ennael> anything else about this?
21:10:43 <ennael> ah last piece of design should be integrated thursday
21:10:53 <ennael> very few missing (KDE splash)
21:18:50 <ennael> argh
21:18:59 * ennael hopes they are still alive
21:19:07 <filip> /me is
21:19:21 <ennael> ok :)
21:19:25 <wilcal> just finished lunch here
21:19:38 <ennael> #topic FOSDEM todo list
21:19:56 <Akien> :-)
21:21:21 <ennael> ok
21:21:26 <ennael> Akien, grenoya ?
21:22:04 <grenoya> Akien: I let you talk about the goodies :)
21:22:17 <Akien> Ok, so basically we have three items that we want for FOSDEM: T-shirts, Stickers and (possibly) USB sticks
21:22:38 <Akien> I've just put grenoya back on the stickers side :-p and I've had a look at the T-shirts
21:22:49 <Akien> You can see my WIP here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/mga-tshirts
21:22:50 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
21:23:34 <Akien> That's to confirm with the treasurer, but for now we're looking at 300 T-shirts (225 for men, 75 for women)
21:24:19 <Akien> With this amount we can get them for ~7€ per T-shirt (VAT included), with the logo on the front (heart) and a big A4 cauldron on the back
21:24:37 <Akien> (the design is not definitive, but I had to start with an idea)
21:24:53 <ennael> we had it previously for 5,5€
21:24:54 <Akien> We can also drop the cauldron on the back, and it should be ~25% cheaper
21:25:07 <Akien> Yeah but I think it was before tax
21:25:39 <ennael> nope I bought some for the company
21:25:53 <Akien> Ah...
21:25:54 <ennael> anyway it's too late now because of the FOSDEM
21:25:58 <ennael> we have to move on :)
21:26:18 <Akien> Well if you still have your contacts I can try that
21:26:30 <ennael> nope they ask for 1 month at least
21:26:35 <Akien> Ok
21:26:37 <ennael> we will not have it on time
21:27:24 <Akien> If I only put the logo on the front, I can have them for ~5,5 €
21:27:37 <ennael> well I think we can have the full one
21:27:54 <Akien> But yes if we sell them ~15€, that's still a good plus for the treasury
21:28:34 <ennael> what is the delay?
21:28:39 <Akien> If the sizes and total amount that I put on my draft sound right to you, I'll contact the firm and try to get specifics
21:28:57 <papoteur> I think that we should consider also the quality, not only the price.
21:29:24 <ennael> yep
21:29:48 <ennael> Akien: it should be done really quickly. usually they ask for 2 weeks to do it
21:29:48 <Akien> I don't know yet for the delay :-/ but I'll phone them tomorrow in the morning
21:29:55 <ennael> ok
21:29:56 <Akien> Yep, I'll try to get this out asap
21:30:06 <ennael> and I can take it
21:30:06 <Akien> I'll get in touch with you for the billing address, payment, etc.
21:30:18 <ennael> I'm going to FOSDEM by car
21:30:23 <Akien> Ah great
21:32:08 <Akien> We'll try to arrange the other things (stickers first, maybe USB too) in the comings days
21:32:45 <Akien> And to make sure that the existing stuff (kakemono, etc.) will make it to Anne's or to the FOSDEM directly
21:33:00 <Akien> grenoya: Do you have a good oversight of where everything is currently?
21:33:51 <grenoya> more or less
21:33:56 <ennael> see https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2015
21:34:05 <Akien> When this is done I'll probably take some time off (or part-time at least), I need to focus on finding a job ;-)
21:34:09 <ennael> epilip seems to have table clothe and kakemono
21:34:24 <ennael> and I have CDs
21:34:41 <grenoya> and Alien has the money box
21:35:01 <lebarhon> it is sure about epilip
21:35:15 <ennael> ok
21:35:25 <ennael> we still need to have proper flyers
21:35:37 <grenoya> ennael: indeed!
21:35:54 <grenoya> I'll ping atelier to have content
21:35:58 <ennael> ok
21:36:08 <Akien> Time presses indeed!
21:36:17 <grenoya> do we still have first flyers for example?
21:36:26 <Akien> We should tell to the FOSDEM guys to make it in Spring :-)
21:36:35 <ennael> grenoya: I may have it
21:37:06 <grenoya> ennael: could you send me electronic version or scan if you have only papaer, please?
21:38:09 <ennael> I have the fr one
21:38:35 <grenoya> ennael: good enough for me :)
21:39:09 <ennael> sent
21:39:31 <ennael> ok I will try to get a restaurant for FOSDEM diner
21:39:33 <grenoya> ennael: thanks :)
21:40:42 <ennael> anything else for FOSDEM?
21:41:09 <grenoya> I don't think of anything more
21:41:12 <lebarhon> do we know where is our booth ?
21:41:18 <ennael> not yet
21:41:34 <wilcal> Sorry I won't be making the trip this year. Airfares have almost doubled since last year.
21:43:32 <grenoya> wilcal: don't be sorry: it was already very great you could do it last year! we can't expect to see you every year, we do know it's pretty expensive :)
21:44:44 <wilcal> Try again next year
21:44:56 <wilcal> Maybe the Berlin show that looked really interesting
21:45:12 <ennael> different one
21:46:08 <grenoya> ennael: next topic?
21:46:30 <ennael> yep sorry
21:46:49 <ennael> #topic Linux Voice interview
21:47:01 <ennael> grenoya: want to take that one ?
21:47:07 <grenoya> yep!
21:47:41 <grenoya> so, most of you must have the email from Linux Voice
21:48:07 <wilcal> "Linux Voice" is officially located where?
21:48:48 <grenoya> we need to answer, but in Atelier, we don't feel like answering for every team, as we are not working on same bugs/difficulties as every one :)
21:49:38 <grenoya> so I prepared a pad so each team could put some words (I'm not asking you to make great litterature, that's our work) so we (Atelier) could compute the final answer
21:49:52 <grenoya> here is the pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/Mageia_answer_LinuxVoice
21:49:53 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
21:50:13 <filip> #link https://pad.riseup.net/p/Mageia_answer_LinuxVoice
21:50:14 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
21:50:32 <ennael> I will have a look tomorrow also
21:50:35 * filip failed ;)
21:50:40 <grenoya> wilcal: I'd say UK as prices are in £
21:50:49 <wilcal> It's a British publication just looked it up
21:50:51 <grenoya> filip: :)
21:51:53 <grenoya> any question?
21:52:02 <grenoya> did I kill you all?
21:52:19 <ennael> naughty girl :)
21:52:21 * filip is alive albeit sleppy ;)
21:53:20 <wilcal> Ulverston England way up North
21:53:33 <ennael> nothing else for me
21:53:37 <ennael> questions ? comments ?
21:53:49 <wilcal> If it was here I would have visited them but that's would be a long time ago
21:54:00 <wilcal> Is it still a printed magazine?
21:54:01 <grenoya> could everyone put some workds on the pad before wednesday evening, please?
21:54:14 <wilcal> where is the pad
21:54:28 <grenoya> wilcal: https://pad.riseup.net/p/Mageia_answer_LinuxVoice
21:54:29 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
21:55:10 <filip> Akien: I put some items for l10n team on the pad. can you do a review please?
21:55:19 <Akien> Sure
21:57:26 <grenoya> Are we finished?
21:57:31 <wilcal> I'm done
21:57:50 <ennael> ok
21:58:06 <ennael> thanks for sleep^w^wattending :)
21:58:09 <grenoya> :))
21:58:25 <ennael> shall we have our next meeting next week?
21:58:29 <ennael> a short one
21:58:34 <Akien> Sounds good
21:58:35 <grenoya> why not :)
21:58:39 <wilcal> sure see where M5 is at
21:58:49 <ennael> ok see you next week then
21:58:52 <ennael> #endmeeting