20:15:47 <ennael> #startmeeting 20:15:47 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Mon Sep 8 20:15:47 2014 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:15:47 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:15:55 <ennael> #chair tmb MrsB 20:15:55 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: MrsB ennael tmb 20:16:02 <MrsB> oooh eck 20:16:32 <ennael> :) 20:16:41 <ennael> #topic financial review 20:16:48 <ennael> quick topic just to let you know 20:17:01 <ennael> so everything is now ok with paypal and bank account 20:17:18 <ennael> we have about 10 500€ for now 20:17:30 <MrsB> even after purchasing the server? 20:17:35 <ennael> yep 20:17:42 <MrsB> that's pretty good then 20:17:43 <DavidWHodgins> Good! 20:17:48 <ennael> yep sure :) 20:17:59 <ennael> it's quite stable for now 20:18:34 <MrsB> i think grenoya has plans for a chunk of it 20:18:41 <ennael> so just keep this in mind for marketing side 20:18:44 <ennael> yes indeed :) 20:19:13 <ennael> to get an event box and basic goodies inside for events 20:19:26 <ennael> looks sensitive for me 20:19:32 <MrsB> sensible 20:19:45 <grenoya> are we allowed to spend everything? :D 20:19:53 * grenoya hides 20:19:53 <DavidWHodgins> lol 20:20:08 <MrsB> a mageia bus 20:20:18 <tmb> a jet :) 20:20:35 <grenoya> a huge cauldron with wheels :) 20:20:41 <MrsB> :D 20:20:58 <ennael> phew you started to drink before meeting wiothout me ! 20:21:02 <ennael> raaaa too bad :) 20:21:18 <MrsB> we never anticipated you would come sober :P 20:21:24 <wilcal> The Mageia Caravan over here we call them Trailers 20:21:25 <grenoya> :)) 20:21:27 <ennael> tssss 20:21:39 <ennael> grenoya: could you start a list on the wiki of needed items? 20:21:57 <ennael> maybe there is already one 20:22:00 <grenoya> yep, that's the plan for tomorrow (Akien +me) 20:22:01 <DavidWHodgins> I think we should set a regular budget for marketing stuff, with exceptions for special events. 20:22:22 <ennael> grenoya: also a list of existing stuff and where we can find it :) 20:22:24 <ennael> (slap me) 20:22:36 <Akien> Hi there :) 20:22:50 <grenoya> ennael: indeed :) you're the only one not to have conted the T-shirts :) 20:23:06 <grenoya> we already have 2 pages: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Events_Box 20:23:26 <grenoya> heu..no, just this one 20:23:53 <grenoya> we will clean it in the comming days 20:24:32 <MrsB> don't forget to get a nice mageia tablecloth 20:24:35 <ennael> ok would be nice to have something for next council meeting and financial proposal 20:24:58 <Akien> We'll try to get something yes :-) 20:24:58 <grenoya> Akien: do you think it's doable? 20:25:03 <grenoya> :) 20:25:20 <Akien> Yes better do it quickly but actually do something, than linger too long on it and forget it again ;-) 20:25:20 <grenoya> MrsB: we have one, but it needs some sewing 20:26:20 <MrsB> we should have changed topic 20:26:24 <ennael> ok anything else for this? 20:27:06 <Akien> Not for now I think, we'll discuss it further when we have an actual proposal 20:27:18 <ennael> ok 20:27:34 <ennael> #topic Mageia 5 planning 20:28:02 <ennael> ok let se how thing are going on that side 20:28:17 <ennael> so version freeze is planned for tomorrow 20:28:24 <ennael> let say end of the day 20:28:37 <ennael> tmb: can you plan to do it or shall we ask somebody? 20:28:37 <DavidWHodgins> End of day in which timezone? 20:28:44 <grenoya> DavidWHodgins: CEST 20:28:53 <tmb> ennael, I can manage it 20:28:57 <ennael> ok 20:29:02 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14069 I created a release blocker tracking bug today 20:29:04 <[mbot> [ Bug 14069 [Tracker] Mageia 5 release critical ] 20:29:06 <ennael> I'll send a mail just after meeting as a reminder 20:29:14 <ennael> MrsB: yep thanks for that 20:30:19 <MrsB> are we still on schedule? 20:30:57 <tmb> yep 20:31:11 <DavidWHodgins> Will the new version of rpm be going in? 20:31:49 <grenoya> DavidWHodgins: nope, just new packages or rebuild of an existing one with same version 20:32:10 <MrsB> i think if it is going to then it should go in before beta 1 20:32:41 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed. If not in by beta 1, it should be held off till Mageia 6. 20:33:02 <grenoya> sorry, I misread 20:34:05 <tmb> I think we could go for it, before the rebuild, but I still want to read up on all mails by tv... 20:34:24 <ennael> still not finished on my side.. 20:34:51 <MrsB> i've no objections to it at this stage of the process 20:35:47 <DavidWHodgins> It's just over 24 hours till version freeze, so it has to be decided quickly, unless an exception is made. 20:36:19 <MrsB> before mass rebuild ideally 20:36:49 <DavidWHodgins> Must be before mass rebuild, in my opinion. Otherwise hold it till Mageia 6. 20:37:36 <MrsB> Aside from the technical changes, i think it's the kind of major thing that makes headlines and Mageia would be noticably behind if we release with an older version than other distros 20:37:53 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, yep. thats the idea.. 20:37:54 <Akien> MrsB: +1 20:38:05 <Akien> Though that should not be the main motivation :-) 20:38:24 <Akien> But it's a good thing for the release announcement on the blog 20:38:51 <malo> we plan to discuss the new rpm version in tomorrow's packager meeting 20:39:37 <MrsB> ok, well no objections from QA at this stage in the process then malo 20:40:12 <malo> the general feeling seems to be ok but it has to be now. 20:40:20 <MrsB> yeah 20:40:32 <DavidWHodgins> malo: Agreed 20:42:28 <malo> on package freeze, we'll discuss it tomorrow in meeting as well. Packagers are currently busy updating like crazy. 20:42:35 <ennael> :) 20:42:39 * ennael hides 20:42:46 <MrsB> it was a very thorough email Thierry sent which helps greatly, we should thank him for that. 20:43:08 <DavidWHodgins> malo: I know. My local mirror sync has been running for several hours. 20:43:29 <malo> DavidWHodgins: be ready for more ... 20:43:34 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:44:01 <malo> DavidWHodgins: I still have something like 50 packages to update by tomorrow :-/ 20:44:01 <sebsebseb> hi 20:44:32 <MrsB> sebsebseb 20:44:52 <ennael> ok this is for version freeze then we will have mass rebuild 20:45:32 <malo> the lack of autobuild make it harder to prepare for it 20:45:32 <DavidWHodgins> sebsebseb: HiYa. Council meeting in progress. 20:45:43 <sebsebseb> DavidWHodgins: yep 20:45:56 <malo> ennael: is there plan to make it come back? 20:46:26 <ennael> ? 20:46:41 <tmb> malo, yes, but we'll redo that host hopefully in time for rebuilds 20:46:53 <malo> pterjan was running the latest autobuild on his own machines 20:47:02 <ennael> oh yes 20:47:12 <ennael> tmb: is maat helping on this ? 20:47:23 <tmb> yes 20:48:00 <tmb> and if we can manage it we'll hopefully switch new valstar into place before the rebuild too 20:48:11 <malo> cool. The earliest the better, otherwise mass rebuild will not mass rebuild much 20:48:29 <ennael> :) 20:48:31 <ennael> ok 20:48:40 <tmb> that would allow old valstar to take place of old jonund that died 20:49:05 <tmb> (until old valstar dies too :) ...) 20:49:40 <tmb> that would give us 4 buildhosts for the rebuild process 20:49:57 <wilcal> tmb: which M5 kernel will we be at at freeze? 20:50:14 <tmb> wilcal, we are at 3.17-rc4 now 20:50:31 <wilcal> thks 20:50:47 <malo> tmb: great, thanks to you and maat 20:51:01 <ennael> MrsB: I've seen lots of contacts following blog post 20:51:04 <ennael> that's great 20:51:17 <ennael> do we have more people planned for beta 1 isos? 20:51:58 <MrsB> some have said help and vanished and one has emailed to say he has to concentrate on some other stuff for now but hopefully a few will stay and contribute 20:52:08 <MrsB> said hello* 20:52:46 <MrsB> I'll email the iso testers a week early so they are prepared 20:53:03 <ennael> ok 20:53:24 <ennael> what about i18n ? 20:53:25 <tmb> MrsB, oh... now I remembered about the ldap groups... 20:53:43 <MrsB> it's ok tmb, whenever you can 20:54:04 <MrsB> there is also some stuff to sort out for backports 20:55:45 <tmb> MrsB, ok, will discuss with coling about that 20:55:59 <MrsB> okay, thanks. I don't want to overload you 20:57:07 <tmb> <ennael> what about i18n ? 20:57:25 * tmb goes reading the planning 20:57:44 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_Development 20:58:12 <MrsB> Akien: this one's for you i think :) 20:58:30 <ennael> yep :) 20:59:43 <ennael> too late :) 21:00:57 <tmb> seems people is falling asleep 21:01:10 <ennael> yep 21:01:29 <ennael> well unless there is another topic for tonight we can stop 21:01:30 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 21:01:31 <MrsB> maybe mail i18n ml about it instead 21:01:37 <ennael> yep 21:02:42 <tmb> nothing from me 21:02:52 <ennael> ok looks like we can stop for today 21:02:56 <Akien> Yep sorry I was falling asleep :-) 21:03:01 <Akien> Nothing particular for i18n 21:03:02 <wilcal> Was the marketing needs the box of goodies 21:03:04 <DavidWHodgins> Beta 1 was the only other topic. It's scheduled for 2014/09/30, and as far as I know, is on track. 21:03:45 <tmb> yep 21:03:54 <ennael> ok then it's ok 21:04:00 <ennael> thanks for attending this late meeting 21:04:03 <MrsB> I'll email council ml again tomorrow to get some input on the commercial contributors page 21:04:08 <malo> the sun shines on Mageialand 21:04:21 <wilcal> Still rated in the top 5 21:04:22 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 21:04:25 <ennael> and let's go to drink now :) 21:04:31 <ennael> #endmeeting