19:34:34 <MrsB> #startmeeting 19:34:34 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Mon Sep 23 19:34:34 2013 UTC. The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:34:34 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:34:35 <DavidWHodgins> Here. 19:34:40 <MrsB> Hi guys 19:34:46 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa 19:34:52 <marja> hi MrsB 19:34:59 <MrsB> #info ennael is unavailable today to host 19:35:02 <marja> and hi DavidWHodgins 19:35:19 <MrsB> Who is here? Let's have a count and see if it's worth continuing 19:35:33 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like it's just the three of us. 19:35:55 <marja> leuhmanu: philippem doktor5000 boklm ? 19:36:02 <marja> maat|lin: ?? 19:36:22 <MrsB> If it's just us, are there any pressing issues? 19:36:32 <marja> DavidWHodgins: well, three is a crowd, isn't it ;-) 19:36:41 <maat|lin> marja: yep 19:36:44 <MrsB> oooh, i should leave you two alone :) 19:36:44 <maat|lin> hi all 19:36:46 <DavidWHodgins> No issues that I'm aware of. 19:36:51 <marja> maat|lin: welcome in the meeting 19:36:54 <maat|lin> thks 19:36:55 <MrsB> hi maat|lin 19:37:01 <marja> maat|lin: do you have any pressing issues? 19:38:07 <marja> maat|lin: apart from severe lack of time :-/ 19:40:15 <MrsB> #info Just a reminder. Alpha 3 is due for release on 2nd of October, first builds will be started about 5-7 days prior to that, so 25th/27th September I expect. 19:40:29 <maat|lin> well 19:40:32 <maat|lin> yep 19:40:57 <maat|lin> i think a virtual machine clone of production forums 19:41:23 <maat|lin> would be a great thing to resolve proxy and spamming issue 19:41:41 <marja> maat|lin: is there still a bug report opened for that (if ever there was one)? 19:41:44 <MrsB> boklm are you around? 19:42:00 <maat|lin> i cant reproduce a context where i'm connecting to a forum behind a reverse proxy 19:42:11 <maat|lin> and where i can make tests 19:42:20 <maat|lin> hack the code 19:42:27 <maat|lin> and so on 19:42:39 <MrsB> it was talked about before wasn't it 19:42:50 <maat|lin> even if i can have one only a few weeks/month 19:42:57 <marja> maat|lin: is this also about that bug that was re-assigned to you? 19:42:57 <maat|lin> to solve that 19:43:06 <maat|lin> yes 19:43:39 <maat|lin> i don't want us to play ping pong 19:43:45 <maat|lin> the issue needs to be resolved 19:44:03 <MrsB> #info maat|lin requests a VM clone of the forum to be able to work on 19:44:21 <maat|lin> sending it back to sysadmin team would be childish 19:44:38 <maat|lin> so i'm trying to find an intermediate approach 19:44:42 <boklm> why don't you install yourself a VM to test the forum ? 19:44:51 <maat|lin> that could lead us to a solution 19:45:14 <marja> bbs, battery empty 19:45:18 <maat|lin> that would mean a vm to reproduce the proxy 19:45:30 <maat|lin> an other for ldap 19:45:37 <maat|lin> and a third for the forum 19:45:53 <boklm> so ? 19:46:11 <maat|lin> and i'm not sure i have enough machine power and skills @home to create all that 19:46:40 <maat|lin> don't even know if there is a documentation on how to install cadtap & ldap 19:46:49 <boklm> you don't need catdap 19:46:56 <maat|lin> same thing for the reverse proxy not sure i could suceed 19:47:32 * boklm has no time for this 19:47:41 <maat|lin> :-( 19:47:53 <MrsB> we need to enable more peolpe to get involved with this side of things though boklm 19:49:03 <MrsB> forums are our main contact with our users 19:49:12 <maat|lin> well 19:49:22 <maat|lin> have to travel work -> home now 19:49:30 <maat|lin> i'll backlog 19:49:32 <MrsB> thanks maat|lin 19:49:45 <maat|lin> thanks for the heads up marja 19:49:51 * boklm already wasted too much time with forums in the past 19:50:03 <MrsB> it's not wasted time though 19:50:10 <boklm> it was wasted time 19:50:27 <maat|lin> sorry boklm i did not inted to bother you more or waste your time :-( 19:50:49 <boklm> so find someone else than me to do those things 19:50:54 <MrsB> i know there was some disagreement previously but we have to be enablers 19:51:17 <MrsB> the problem is there IS nobody else. Sysadmin have to enable others to do so 19:51:45 <maat|lin> argh sorry i cant follow this discussion :-/ 19:51:48 <maat|lin> see you all 19:52:02 <MrsB> ok maat|lin thanks for raising it 19:52:54 * marja is back 19:52:58 <MrsB> how can we enable people to get involved with this side of things boklm? 19:52:58 <boklm> the patch to fix the proxy issue is a 2 lines patch, easy to find with a google search, but nobody bothered to spend any time to try it 19:56:31 <marja> boklm: how do you know that there was not another reason, why can't it be severe lack of time, or lack of knowledge? 20:00:42 <MrsB> it's not possible for one person to do everything, the shortage of sysadmins is something we are going to need to address. Stormi and others have shown an interest in helping out but I think the main problem is knowing where to start and have a path to do so. 20:01:10 <MrsB> anyway, there are not enough of us here today to resolve it 20:01:45 <MrsB> if there are no objections I'll close the meeting 20:01:53 <DavidWHodgins> May as well. 20:02:04 <marja> boklm: or even fear that paralyses ... I don't know what it is like for others around, but when I don't feel at ease, it doesn't help to get things done 20:03:31 <MrsB> I'll end then.. 20:03:40 <marja> yes, please 20:03:44 <MrsB> thanks all for coming 20:03:49 <MrsB> #endmeeting