19:41:10 <ennael> #startmeeting 19:41:10 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Mon Feb 28 19:41:10 2011 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:41:10 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:41:23 <ennael> #chair misc wobo rda 19:41:23 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: ennael misc rda wobo 19:42:12 <ennael> #topic review on infrastructure and web 19:42:20 <ennael> your turn guys 19:42:43 <rda> well... misc ? (wiki, identity?) 19:43:26 <misc> well, identity is deployed, what is the question ? 19:43:45 <rda> so, wiki? what's the status 19:43:48 <misc> wiki, oliver told me he would prepare a new rpm with ldap support 19:43:56 <rda> ho ok 19:44:04 <ennael> any deadline ? 19:44:37 <ennael> #action wiki package is in progress including ldap support 19:44:46 <rda> we'll get more status on wednesday about that. 19:44:51 <misc> I do not think he gave a deadline, but I am slightly fuzzy at the moment 19:44:54 <rda> what about the forum setup? 19:45:22 <misc> still waiting on knowing if using phpbb-seo is a violation of the GPL, and the intended consequence of the license 19:45:54 <misc> for the rest, the summary was posted on -webteam by maat 19:46:14 <rda> ok, so that's the blocker point :-/ 19:46:30 <rda> and maat is waiting for an answer from the phpbb-seo guys 19:46:51 <misc> https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-webteam/2011-February/000382.html 19:46:57 <misc> and the previous mail 19:47:08 <ennael> #info waiting for answer from phpbb-seo dev team 19:47:53 <rda> as for www/blog, we should update a few bits this week 19:48:25 <rda> btw, misc and me discussed a common way to manage some of webapps managed by the webteam 19:48:34 <rda> I will post a mail documenting this further 19:49:31 <rda> ok, maybe let's move on next topic, and I'll prepare sometihng for next week 19:49:45 <rda> wobo: mageia communication? 19:49:55 <wobo> oh! 19:49:56 <ennael> #topic Mageia communication 19:50:26 <wobo> I prepared a rough layout of a spreading system 19:50:36 <wobo> http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spreading 19:51:03 <wobo> it can work without any additional tools 19:51:10 <rda> #link http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spreading 19:51:25 <wobo> what is needed most is the source of news/information 19:51:30 <wobo> meaning: 19:52:11 <wobo> a team for the newsletter, who gather infos and compile the NL 19:53:13 <wobo> some info who is responsible for which kind of news, this depends on personal motivation at the moment 19:53:27 <wobo> or on actions set in meetings 19:54:12 <rda> so it means a comm' team core to form 19:54:16 <wobo> I will post a mail in -i18n to bring this spreading system to the teams and see what they can contribute 19:54:40 <wobo> rda: yes 19:55:13 <rda> ok, post it too to marketing team as marketing and comm' people gather there for now 19:55:27 <wobo> ok 19:55:57 <wobo> #action wobo will post on marketing and i18n about spreading system 19:57:00 <wobo> we had an online "newsletter generator" at mandriva but I don't know what became of it, rda? 19:57:37 <rda> well... depends. when was it? 19:57:49 <wobo> when Adam used to compile the NL 19:58:06 <rda> ha. we had manual scripts to send it but that was not optimal. 19:58:22 <rda> was replaced by a custom use of pommo + a script to help build a text/alternate mails offline 19:58:30 <rda> but I'm not sure that relates exactly to what you meant 19:58:36 <wobo> he put the English version in the henerator and translators could translate online 19:58:49 <wobo> s/henerator/generator 19:59:32 <rda> ha. never saw this one. 19:59:33 <wobo> sending was done by somebody at Mandriva, I son't know who 19:59:39 <rda> isteam, likely. 19:59:45 <rda> given the size of the lists. 19:59:46 <wobo> for some time it was leeloo 20:00:01 <rda> ah yes, she used to have the fire switch. 20:00:14 <wobo> yep 20:00:58 <wobo> as long as there were people caring for this the system was good 20:01:40 <rda> as for the newsletter if we get to that, we've got to be careful on the signup/signout processes 20:01:49 <rda> (making them dead simple/obvious) 20:02:45 <wobo> on the portal page of Mageia, as everybody does, give address and language, that should be all :) 20:04:01 <rda> :) 20:04:13 <wobo> Another point: blog entries: 20:04:49 <wobo> We all agree that official blog posts should be localized ASAP. 20:05:02 <rda> yep 20:05:34 <wobo> I suggest that important local things should also be sent to an admin of English blog to be published "worldwide" 20:05:50 <ennael> ? 20:06:01 <wobo> Example: 20:07:08 <wobo> Mageia will be at a German event, --> I shoould post a blog entry about that not only in the German page but in English so it can be spread everywhere 20:07:21 <ennael> yep 20:07:30 <wobo> Not because people from Tansania will visit the event but to show that we are active worldwide 20:07:32 <rda> yes 20:07:56 <rda> however we have to make it clear who the pivot contact is, and how things are dispatched 20:08:11 <wobo> pivot? 20:08:27 <wobo> me english bat it is 20:08:49 <ennael> main contact 20:08:52 <ennael> decision maker 20:08:58 <wobo> thx :) 20:09:10 <wobo> blogteam, no? 20:09:56 <wobo> So, if I were not an admin, I'd post a suggestion at blogteam to be published 20:11:35 <rda> yep, sounds good. 20:11:53 <rda> #need a newsletter generator/translation tool 20:12:12 <wobo> About Planet in this context: 20:12:16 <rda> #info local events notification should be sent to blogteam to decide to post them (and translate them) or not 20:12:28 <rda> #info it helps getting a sense of the international activity of the project 20:13:11 <wobo> we should take care that such information does not vanish in private blogs, like it was at mandriva sometimes 20:13:56 <wobo> but I think this is up to the bloggers themselves... 20:14:03 <rda> that is? having the planet is precisely to make blogs in front lines 20:14:38 <wobo> yes, but not all people who read THE BLOG will rss the Planet 20:15:26 <rda> ah, yes. indeed. 20:15:57 <rda> #info official blog and planet infos can be redundant, they do not address the same targets 20:16:22 <rda> the official blog may as well make a weekly "summary" post about events all around, if they get numerous 20:16:52 <wobo> yes, and the planet will be also source for the newsletter 20:17:16 <wobo> (one of the sources) 20:17:20 <rda> for the newsletter, which frequency do you expect? 20:17:40 <wobo> depends on how many eyes and hands 20:17:50 <rda> :) so maybe good to catch some feedback from the lists before digging deeper in the specs/how to do it? 20:17:59 <wobo> yes 20:19:11 <wobo> I can summarize all this on -discuss and ask for help with the NL, etc. 20:20:19 <wobo> NL compiling means a lot of reading - so we could have an address to send suggestions for the NL 20:21:55 <wobo> what I have in mind is a very small fixed team of 3 people as "editors" and people from the community sending in suggestions for the newsletter 20:22:59 <wobo> so the contents would be 1. official news, 2. local news & sent-in things fromt he community 20:23:08 <wobo> but this is too much into details for now 20:23:51 <wobo> anybody still awake ? 20:24:06 <ennael> :) 20:24:15 <misc> from a clinical level, I think yes 20:24:18 <ennael> was just following dicsussion 20:24:40 <wobo> next? 20:24:44 <ennael> yep 20:24:57 <ennael> #topic AlphaA review and alpha2 20:25:25 <rda> ok, just as a reminder, alpha2 is still planned for March 15th :) 20:25:32 <ennael> yep 20:25:36 <rda> who was present for past weekend test day? 20:26:10 <misc> I was in the beggining, but I had others duty in the evening 20:27:05 <wobo> btw: we should advertize next test day at least 3 days in advance 20:27:13 <rda> yes 20:27:25 <rda> and have a team of people that can be available and referred to. 20:27:34 <ennael> this was just supposed to be a test 20:27:40 <rda> yes yes :) 20:27:43 <wobo> yes 20:27:44 <ennael> I guess we can plan even now the next one 20:27:53 <rda> do we have visible outcomes of this first test day? 20:27:55 <ennael> after alpha2 is out 20:28:17 <rda> yep. or we could organize even into a regular (bi-monthly) bug/test day? 20:28:32 <wobo> "Patch Day" 20:28:33 <ennael> should be on specific items then 20:29:52 <rda> yes, a little direction never hurts 20:30:13 <rda> so, when would the next test day occur? 20:30:18 <rda> week end as well, or week day? 20:30:58 <wobo> next one weekend, then one on week day, so we can see the results 20:31:13 <rda> sounds good. 20:31:36 <rda> ennael: did you set up a gcalendar yet? 20:31:37 <wobo> we can#t count last Saturday as it was a test run 20:31:56 <ennael> rda: in progress 20:32:03 <rda> k 20:32:04 <wobo> what happened to Oliver#s calender project? 20:32:18 <rda> wobo: still running, but in the meantime, we would use a google calendar 20:32:25 <wobo> yes 20:32:42 <rda> so, next weekend would be this very weekend, if we do it before alpha 2 20:32:55 <rda> the following weekend would be just before alpha2, so a bit late 20:34:01 <rda> maybe wait for alpha2, and launch the testday the weekend after (19th) and the tuesday after (22nd) 20:34:09 <ennael> we cannot do it too often 20:34:18 <ennael> it means having available people 20:34:33 <rda> no, but if we want to try to test a weekend day and a week day... 20:35:09 <ennael> ok 20:35:35 <ennael> I have to leave for now 20:35:38 <ennael> coming back later 20:35:41 <rda> ok 20:35:55 <rda> so, other things/matters to schedule up to alpha2 release? 20:36:13 <ennael> just one thing about live isos 20:36:40 <ennael> we need to have a look as it needs usually fixes 20:36:53 <ennael> to avoid having it in very last weeks 20:38:04 <wobo> s/weeks/minutes 20:38:11 <ennael> even weeks 20:38:43 <ennael> it needed fixes in unionfs for example which was quite a pain 20:38:58 <rda> so should we plan to release dvd, livecd isos for alpha2 ? 20:39:15 <rda> (and other medias? I guess we can launch a thread about that on -dev or -discuss) 20:39:32 <wobo> which other media? 20:39:45 <t_m_b> kernel now also supports aufs2 so it can be tested for the live cds 20:41:27 <rda> wobo: usb, simple cd. I meant, what are going to be the exact list of released stuff in the end (and should we prepare for these already): 32bit, 64bit, dualarch, dvd, cd (live), usb, other? 20:42:42 <wobo> ok. usb? the previous iso was hybrid to be dd'd to a USB medium 20:43:25 <rda> ok. well, this would help to be listed and made clear, and what can be done with each I guess. 20:43:48 <rda> I can play the total noob and launch the discussion on -discuss, but I'd prefer to straight it out before, to help. 20:44:40 <wobo> ok 20:45:44 <rda> ok, anything else? 20:46:50 <wobo> One: 20:47:56 <wobo> I sent a mail to founders with the poster text, to be displayed at Mageia stand. Although the deadline for this one is gone I would like to get comments :) 20:49:11 <wobo> Not now! :) 20:49:48 <rda> :) ok I note it. 20:50:00 <wobo> Another reminder for board/founders: 20:50:11 <wobo> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_org_statutes_en 20:50:15 <wobo> :) 20:50:52 <wobo> That's all from my side 20:52:28 <wobo> Anything else? 20:53:10 <wobo> Can we close? 20:53:17 <rda> I guess so 20:53:23 <rda> wait 20:53:53 <rda> #info statutes to review (french statutes patch to provide) 20:54:10 <rda> #info comments on wobo poster text to review 20:54:12 <rda> wobo: done :) 20:55:02 <wobo> so shut Pandora's box, lesst something else escapes 20:55:27 <rda> #endmeeting