19:29:26 <boklm> #startmeeting 19:29:26 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Mon Jan 3 19:29:26 2011 UTC. The chair is boklm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:29:26 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:29:42 <boklm> #chairs ennael misc rda 19:29:45 <boklm> #chair ennael misc rda 19:29:45 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: boklm ennael misc rda 19:30:00 <boklm> #topic FOSDEM 19:30:20 <ennael> ok so here are the last news we have from organization 19:30:31 <ennael> unfortunately we do not have any stand this year 19:30:39 <ennael> I guess project is too young and too many demands 19:31:21 <ennael> but I've asked some guys if we could have a little place in an existing stand 19:31:28 <ennael> waiting for last answer 19:31:37 <ennael> if you have any idea please do not hesitate 19:31:52 <teuf> gnome got 2 tables for the stand, maybe it will be possible to lend a bit of space ;) 19:32:07 <ennael> teuf: can you check this on your side ? 19:32:54 <ennael> also there is some conferences pending that could imply mageia 19:32:56 <boklm> maybe also checking with fosdem staff if that wouldn't be a problem or if it makes them angry ? 19:33:00 <ennael> misc: want to speak about this ? 19:33:12 <wobo> hmm. sharing with GNOME (or KDE or XFCE , etc)? Would that send a signal? 19:33:19 <misc> ennael: no 19:33:29 <misc> ennael: no idea of what to say, neither the time 19:33:35 <ennael> ok 19:33:37 <teuf> ennael: yep, I'll try 19:34:04 <ennael> they proposed us to partiticpate to common project regarding software installer 19:34:21 <ennael> I guess it would be nice to have one of us participating 19:34:40 <boklm> who proposed that ? 19:34:53 <ennael> vincent untz is one of them 19:35:19 <misc> vincent untz contacted people by mail, stormi, nanar, me, ennael, richard hugues, some debian, ubuntu and suse guy 19:35:39 <boklm> so it's better if it's someone who knows mandriva/mageia installer ? 19:35:52 <ennael> rather rpmdrake 19:36:06 <boklm> ah, package installer 19:37:01 <Nanar> I know rpm myself and URPM 19:37:01 <ennael> yep 19:37:22 <Nanar> rpmdrake is not the one I use... 19:37:25 <ennael> maybe boklm, me and Nanar can discuss with them ? 19:37:42 <Nanar> ok for me 19:37:47 * boklm can try 19:37:59 <ennael> ok we can speak about it later then 19:38:30 <ennael> even if we do not have any stand would be nice to organize saturday diner with mageia contributers 19:38:40 <ennael> also find a way to have a meeting even unformal 19:38:49 <ennael> on saturday afternoon for example 19:38:56 <boklm> yes 19:38:57 <ennael> in "cafeteria" 19:39:01 <ennael> don't know the name 19:39:15 <wobo> "cafeteria" 19:39:17 <boklm> the place where they sell beers 19:39:27 <Nanar> where there is river of beer 19:39:45 <misc> don't we plan to vote ? 19:40:20 <ennael> yep but maybe it's better to organize this remotly using epoll for example 19:40:30 <ennael> as everyone will not be able to attend 19:40:35 <misc> provided epoll work :) 19:40:38 <ennael> :) 19:40:47 <ennael> still some things to be fixed 19:40:56 <misc> but even using epoll, we still need 1) a list of who can vote 19:41:02 <ennael> yep 19:41:03 <misc> 2) someone to take care of that 19:41:09 <ennael> rda: ? :) 19:41:26 <rda> ? 19:43:08 <ennael> see above 19:43:09 <misc> rda: for the vote on fosdem, what is the plan , organisation wise 19:43:21 <misc> ie, who can vote for the initial run 19:43:54 <misc> ( note that I save you from ennael trying to make you say "yes" to the question "will you do it" :p ) 19:44:05 <rda> hey! :) 19:44:11 <rda> I didn't say "yes". 19:44:11 <ennael> :) 19:44:15 * misc wonder if everybody is sick 19:44:24 <rda> as for who can vote, at this time, only founders. for the general assembly. 19:44:33 <ennael> srill trying to recover from eating during one week :) 19:44:43 <rda> and as for the council, team members can vote, but we did not make any progress about that, since two months. 19:45:15 <misc> yup 19:45:38 <rda> I can start the debate again /o\ 19:45:43 <rda> with a better plan for that. 19:45:44 <ennael> :) 19:46:25 <misc> the debate ? 19:47:13 <rda> who in a team can vote, who can not. at least for the first round. 19:48:05 <misc> well, so far, the issue is lack of team 19:48:53 <rda> not everywhere, but yes, that's part of the problem. 19:49:15 <rda> or we can have the option that the board names representatives for team that need to form/build still 19:50:01 * ennael is ok to manage organization of local meeting and diner 19:50:29 <misc> #action ennael manage meeting at FOSDEM 19:50:35 <misc> #action ennael manage diner at FOSDEM 19:51:45 <rda> ennael: thanks! 19:52:05 <misc> so, let's tackle the board vote first 19:52:10 <ennael> ok I have to let you down now:) 19:52:14 <ennael> I will read logs 19:52:15 <misc> founder will vote, people need to present themself to be elected ? 19:52:24 <ennael> (happy nez year 2011 again ;) 19:52:36 <boklm> misc: for council ? 19:53:11 <misc> boklm: nope 19:53:13 <misc> 20:44:24| rda> as for who can vote, at this time, only founders. for the general assembly. 19:54:32 <boklm> ok 19:54:34 <rda> ok, reminder 19:54:42 <boklm> for the association board 19:54:46 <rda> yes 19:54:56 <boklm> http://mageia.org/g/images/organisation.png 19:55:05 <rda> founding members are in the council members position. here, it is to elect the association/project board. 19:55:42 <rda> so, yes, we can expect people to present themselves (with a plan) 19:56:10 <misc> we need 6 people , out of 12 ? 19:57:03 <rda> yep 19:57:12 <misc> ok 19:57:13 <rda> with time, the pool will grow 19:57:19 <misc> or shrink :) 19:57:32 <rda> if 6 looks too big for this time, we can point for 4 19:57:42 <rtp> misc: you're too pessimistic /o\ 19:57:52 <misc> rtp: always when I am hungry 19:58:51 <misc> ok so who is volunteer to manage the vote ? 20:00:46 <misc> ok guess I can do it, unless someone is against ? 20:00:54 <boklm> online vote ? 20:01:14 <misc> yes , using epoll 20:01:19 <rda> misc: thanks! :) 20:01:21 <boklm> ok 20:01:27 <wobo> ok, thx 20:01:43 <misc> #action misc take care of setting the vote for the board during fosdem 20:02:29 <misc> so FOSDEM, what to add ? 20:04:11 <wobo> It would be nice to get clothing ready for Fosdem (Shirts), to be visible 20:04:39 <boklm> damsweb: ? 20:04:40 <misc> I would prefer to not have clothes, but indeed, belgium can be cold, it is better to not be naked 20:05:00 <boklm> :) 20:05:01 <wobo> misc: I was waiting for that remark 20:05:08 <AL13N> i would prefer to see you _with_ clothes 20:05:18 <rtp> :) 20:05:45 <misc> on the other hand, if we go naked, we will be much more visible 20:06:02 <wobo> yes, it would make an impact 20:06:11 <AL13N> except that noone will know we are mageia 20:06:20 <wobo> Tattoos 20:06:33 * AL13N facepalms 20:06:45 <misc> maybe we could wear a cauldron ? 20:07:01 <boklm> we could cook someone in a cauldron 20:07:11 <AL13N> except we don't have a stand to put it 20:07:19 <wobo> maybe we could all sit in a cauldron after that? 20:07:42 <AL13N> so, what about the tshirts? 20:07:48 <Nanar> naled in a cauldron ? 20:07:50 <misc> well, we wait on damsweb :) 20:07:52 <Nanar> naked 20:08:14 <AL13N> belgium is cold right now (-4°C ) 20:08:16 <misc> I can do a stealth action assignement without him knowing it :) 20:08:41 <AL13N> didn't rda or rtp know something about this too? 20:08:59 <rtp> misc: I'm not sure damsweb is available atm 20:08:59 <rda> about the belgium temperature? :) 20:09:10 <misc> rtp: I am sure he isn't 20:09:21 <wobo> can we find that out until next meeting? 20:09:29 <rda> dams has plans to get tee shirts; he expected some quotations/answers during the holidays 20:09:31 <AL13N> i still want to have tshirts on fosdem 20:09:36 <rda> wobo: sure 20:10:05 <misc> #info tshirts are planned, dams is still on it 20:10:09 <misc> ok so no more topic ? 20:10:17 <AL13N> progress topic? 20:10:43 <rtp> misc: look at your irc logs he said "AFK but will read the logs" 20:10:50 <misc> rtp: yep 20:11:27 <AL13N> what is the status of basesystem? svn cleaning? 20:11:34 <AL13N> youri? 20:12:01 * wobo has to leave, will read logs 20:12:02 <misc> AL13N: progress is not on the agenda, so I think no one prepared anything 20:12:02 <boklm> not a lot of change since last meeting before holydays 20:12:25 <AL13N> ok then 20:13:42 <boklm> anything else to discuss ? 20:13:50 <misc> i assume everybody is 1) drunk 2) sick 3) high 4) busy 5) a combination of them, so I guess nothing is left ? 20:14:53 <AL13N> 4 is always a constant, so imho, that doesn't change anything 20:15:03 <boklm> ok, so I guess we can close meeting for tonight ? 20:15:06 <misc> yup 20:15:07 <AL13N> let's just end this short meeting 20:15:15 <boklm> #endmeeting