18:02:56 <marja> #startmeeting 18:02:56 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Tue Apr 24 18:02:56 2012 UTC. The chair is marja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02:56 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:03:07 <marja> #topic help files for installer 18:03:38 <marja> #info the English help is nearly ready, but will need improvement later 18:04:04 <marja> #info we can work on the texts another two days 18:04:52 <marja> lebarhon: what do you think is better, for missing French texts to have no text at all, or to have the English texts (I don't know for sure whether we can choose) 18:05:08 <marja> lebarhon: so only for the missing ones 18:05:27 <marja> MrsB: you're here, too, great :) 18:05:34 <simonnzg> Yes I am here 18:05:44 * lebarhon think English text is better than no text at all 18:05:44 <marja> simonnzg: good :) 18:06:23 <marja> lebarhon: OK, 18:06:38 <MrsB> yes miss 18:06:53 <lebarhon> French texts should be ready for RC 18:07:27 <marja> lebarhon: OK, most English text can be used..... I'm adding something to misc-params atm 18:07:59 <MrsB> sorry I've not been able to do anything doccy recently, qa is swamped 18:08:43 <marja> lebarhon: and in doParttionDisks we need to add that if the empty space of a MSwin partition is used, it should be defragmented 18:08:49 <marja> MrsB: np 18:09:29 <lebarhon> Who write it ? 18:09:33 <sebsebseb> hi 18:09:39 <MrsB> hi sebsebseb 18:09:47 <marja> and in format partitions I wanted to make the word *not* more visible 18:10:06 <marja> lebarhon: probably me 18:10:07 <sebsebseb> MrsB hi from a Mageia 1 Live CD since some issues 18:10:27 <sebsebseb> marja: what's this about partitions? 18:10:35 <marja> #action marja try to finish the help texts tonight 18:11:30 <marja> lebarhon: empty lines ( "------" or ".......") can be removed 18:11:56 <lebarhon> OK 18:12:12 <marja> lebarhon: one of your files where you added comment, I didn't know what to say,m so I left it like that.... I hope JohnR has looked at it 18:13:25 <marja> lebarhon: it would be great if the French help would be ready for rc in spite of how hard we made it by not having the texts ready 18:13:41 <marja> sebsebseb: it is about the help texts 18:13:54 <lebarhon> I think it is possible even if not perfect 18:14:12 <marja> sebsebseb: you can see them here http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/ 18:14:13 <Magbot> [ Installation with DrakX ] 18:14:24 <marja> lebarhon: great :) 18:14:41 <lebarhon> RC is for April 23rd 18:15:05 <lebarhon> no sorry May 2 nd 18:15:07 <marja> lebarhon: yesterday ennael said, docteam and i18n have more time 18:15:25 <marja> lebarhon: last night was freeze for the packagers 18:15:33 <marja> lebarhon: for us it is 27th 18:15:45 <marja> so we have two more days 18:15:47 <lebarhon> Only 3 days left 18:16:12 <marja> lebarhon: I think when they set a date for a freeze, it is at 00.00h 18:16:52 <marja> lebarhon: but from John I understood that documentation was in the past often updated after freeze 18:17:10 <marja> lebarhon: and the French Mageia community is very large 18:17:36 <marja> ennael: can lebarhon have some more time to translate the help texts? 18:17:47 <marja> lebarhon: how much more do you need? 18:18:06 <lebarhon> Is Papoteur available ? 18:18:37 <marja> he is not here atm..... I don't remember whether he said anything 18:19:00 * marja does anybody know whether papoteur is available to translate these days? 18:19:03 <grenoya> win 18 18:19:12 <grenoya> oops /o\ 18:19:17 <lebarhon> May be 3 days can do, I hadn't a look on the remaining work 18:19:19 <marja> grenoya: lol 18:19:19 <MrsB> :o 18:19:40 <grenoya> so i'm here and reading and can translate english into french 18:19:55 <marja> lebarhon: grenoya can help :) 18:20:15 <marja> then it should really work 18:20:24 <lebarhon> So it is possible to be ready, yes 18:20:28 <marja> grenoya: did you already try the xxe add-on? 18:20:34 <marja> great :D 18:20:44 <lebarhon> We can use the wiki page to synchronise 18:21:03 <grenoya> marja: no /o\ 18:21:29 <marja> grenoya: np, just lock the file when you download it to work on it 18:21:36 <grenoya> lebarhon: wiki or etherpad 18:21:57 <lebarhon> wiki is ready 18:22:05 <sebsebseb> wiki is ready for what? 18:22:09 <lebarhon> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Translation_with_Calenco/xxe 18:22:41 <lebarhon> There is a board to synchronise translation work 18:22:44 <marja> lebarhon: my tables are made in a different way than yours, I didn't dare touch it, because I didn't understand the wiki code of it 18:24:00 <lebarhon> Wiki code is the more simple one 18:24:59 <marja> lebarhon: translate the setupBootloaderExpert file as last one, it is long and hard to find 18:25:47 <marja> lebarhon: I'll focus on getting the pages ready and ping here or mail..... and adjust the wiki page if I manage :þ 18:26:30 <marja> lebarhon: besides, the instructions will probably be rewritten 18:26:42 <marja> lebarhon: for the bootloader expert page 18:27:02 * marja does anyone have a question? 18:27:31 <lebarhon> Is it possible with xxe to know the differences between versions ? 18:28:33 <marja> lebarhon: I started changing the revision number of paragraphs I change 18:28:52 <marja> lebarhon: maybe there is a tool...... camil, are you around? 18:29:22 <marja> lebarhon: it is probably in the calenco guide I never studied well enough 18:29:36 <marja> lebarhon: so far, I used kdiff3 for it 18:30:01 <marja> lebarhon: and JohnR should know 18:30:39 <marja> lebarhon: also, we try to write a comment about what got changed 18:31:02 <lebarhon> I saw that, it will be enough for now 18:31:20 <marja> lebarhon: sorry for not making it easier 18:31:46 <marja> anything else on this topic? 18:32:58 * marja does anyone have another topic for tonight, or shall we close the meeting? 18:33:08 <sebsebseb> kind of 18:33:19 <marja> sebsebseb: that is? 18:33:22 <sebsebseb> maybe you mentioned the Grub and Grub 2 distros stuff before I joined 18:33:44 <sebsebseb> ,but I know you been asking about it. anyway diogenese can probably help with that for example 18:33:54 <sebsebseb> I did test Grub 2 booting up Mageia 18:34:04 <marja> sebsebseb: barjac wrote a page http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/setupBootloaderExpert.html 18:34:05 <Magbot> [ 18. Bootloader expert use ] 18:34:18 <marja> it is about grub2 18:34:27 <camil> marja: yes? 18:34:29 <sebsebseb> Ubuntu's Grub 2 and Mint 12, that worked fine. as for the other way round was going to test that recently, but then after putting Beta 3 on, ended up with some issues.... 18:35:00 <marja> camil: is there a tool to compare different versions of a file within calenco? 18:35:07 <sebsebseb> oh barjac has wrote a page nice :) 18:35:37 <marja> camil: for the translators, to see what changed since they translated 18:35:48 <MrsB> sebsebseb: did you update the kernel in ubuntu/mint? 18:36:04 <sebsebseb> ok just went on the link you gave, looks ok to me 18:36:09 <sebsebseb> MrsB of course 18:36:20 <camil> marja: in the proprietary version only: we include a third party library. 18:36:27 <MrsB> Ok, scroll down to the bottom of barjacs page 18:36:32 <marja> camil: OK, thx :) 18:36:38 <camil> marja: otherwise, diff 18:36:46 <marja> camil: I use kdiff3 18:36:48 <sebsebseb> Can probably add more stuff to the Grub page, but well it will be on a wiki so :D 18:36:50 <MrsB> sebsebseb: seems its a bug with grub2 18:37:25 <sebsebseb> MrsB this is more than just a Grub issue it semes, the whole extended partition gone etc as I was saying, anyawy getting a bit off topic for the docs meeting now I think :D 18:37:36 <marja> shall we close the meeting? 18:37:41 <sebsebseb> yep ok 18:37:48 <MrsB> Ok :) 18:38:10 <marja> #endmeeting