18:00:20 <marja> #startmeeting 18:00:20 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Tue Apr 17 18:00:20 2012 UTC. The chair is marja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:20 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:29 <simonnzg> Installing with DrakX, or INstallation via DrakX, perhaps... 18:00:47 <marja> [20:00] <simonnzg> "Installation with DrakX" doesn't sound very English. <---- what would you propose? 18:00:49 * grenoya is back 18:00:58 <marja> grenoya: that is in time :) 18:01:11 <grenoya> :) 18:01:37 <marja> #topic validation of help texts 18:01:49 <marja> AFAIK none of our new texts has been validated, yet. Is that correct? 18:02:02 <marja> or did I miss something? 18:02:20 <marja> lebarhon: welcome 18:02:27 <lebarhon> hello 18:02:39 <marja> lebarhon: you're faster translating than we are writing those texts 18:02:41 <sebsebseb> hi 18:03:17 <marja> lebarhon: the texts you translated, they weren't validated yet, but do you consider them good enough to stay as they are? 18:03:33 <lebarhon> marja: I am doing nothing else 18:04:22 <marja> lebarhon: if you think they are good enough, I'll copy the enlish originals to the spaces of the other languages, too 18:04:32 <lebarhon> yes for a start, we must keep something to be improved 18:05:10 <lebarhon> the problem is the pretty heavy style 18:06:10 <marja> lebarhon: can you give an example? please find the file here and point to it http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/ 18:06:11 <Magbot> [ Installation with DrakX ] 18:07:35 <lebarhon> I can't give examples now, I am not on the right PC 18:07:48 <marja> lebarhon: no problem 18:08:00 <lebarhon> later on 18:08:04 <MrsBTest> marja where is the validation being done? 18:08:14 <MrsBTest> sorry, cooking too 18:08:18 * marja proposes to not touch the files lebarhon translated, but work on what is incomplete in the other ones 18:09:02 <marja> MrsBTest: well, it was supposed to be done in comments between </--- --> 18:09:18 <MrsBTest> on calenco? 18:09:19 <marja> MrsBTest: but we never really talked about it 18:09:40 <marja> MrsBTest: yes..... but now I think it is easier to just make a list in the wiki 18:09:59 <MrsBTest> I put some comments about the help texts in beta3 on the pad http://bn.parinux.org/p/mageia2beta3 18:10:00 <Magbot> [ Etherpad Lite ] 18:10:14 <marja> with a link to the online installer help for each page and then comment 18:10:22 <marja> MrsBTest: I'm looking 18:11:24 <MrsBTest> most of them on the Summary page link to the miscellaneous one I think, which is just titles at the minute. A couple are missing though and list the directory contents , they might just need redirecting to the big misc page 18:12:12 <MrsBTest> Graphic card, bootloader help still missing - shows directory contents 18:12:12 <MrsBTest> Sound card, mouse, time zone, country region, services, security level, also summary page itself help still need updating 18:12:14 <marja> MrsBTest: thx, yes the bootloader help is missing and the one for the graphic carc/X is missing too 18:12:34 <marja> MrsBTest: it is going slower than I had hoped 18:13:08 <MrsBTest> it might be easier if it was back on the wiki and transfered over when ready 18:13:10 <marja> MrsBTest: the last text can be seen in the link I gave above 18:14:13 <marja> MrsBTest: they get updated automatically from calenco, the summary page is less empty now http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/misc-params.html 18:14:14 <Magbot> [ 18. Summary of miscellaneous parameters ] 18:14:28 <MrsBTest> yes that has improved :) 18:14:50 <marja> MrsBTest: and we can use the xxe add-on in Calenco now :) 18:15:03 <MrsBTest> I've been reading about it but not seen it yet 18:15:31 <MrsBTest> is it a FF addon or just built into calenco? 18:15:34 * marja does everybody agree on not touching the already translated files before we finished with all files? 18:15:49 <marja> MrsBTest: built into calenco 18:15:54 <MrsBTest> ok ty 18:16:31 <simonnzg> ok 18:16:36 <lebarhon> Next week, all will be translated 18:16:40 <marja> #info the english texts are here http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/misc-params.html 18:16:41 <Magbot> [ 18. Summary of miscellaneous parameters ] 18:16:57 <marja> #undo 18:16:57 <Inigo_Montoya> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x84d5fac> 18:17:07 <marja> #info the english texts are here http://docteam.mageia.nl/installer/content/ 18:17:08 <Magbot> [ Installation with DrakX ] 18:17:24 <marja> #info the french texts are here http://docteam.mageia.nl/fr/installer/content/ 18:17:25 <Magbot> [ Installation with DrakX ] 18:18:02 <marja> lebarhon: there are a few pages that aren't good at all yet, like the misc-params one..... please don't translate those yet 18:18:18 <lebarhon> OK 18:18:23 <marja> lebarhon: thx :) 18:20:00 <marja> #agreed we will work on the pages that aren't translated yet and need to be improved or still (partly) written 18:21:10 * marja thinks it would be good to keep a list of which version of every english text has been used to translate 18:22:02 <marja> lebarhon: do you know how to get the other texts to translate from the English space to yours? 18:22:33 <lebarhon> Yes, I use save as ... 18:23:20 <marja> lebarhon: so you have already imported a page to your space, I hadn't seen that, good :) 18:24:01 <marja> lebarhon: would you have time to write a how to for other translators? 18:24:55 <lebarhon> Of course, where and about what ? Only the import 18:25:43 <marja> lebarhon: about logging into calenco, importing a file, selecting it and using the xxe add-on 18:25:56 <marja> lebarhon: and that all in a wiki page ;) 18:25:56 <lebarhon> OK 18:26:08 <marja> lebarhon: you're fantastic :) 18:26:30 <lebarhon> help, my wife is looking 18:26:43 <lebarhon> a new wiki page ? 18:26:55 <marja> #action lebarhon will write a wiki page for the translators about how to use calenco and the xxe add-on 18:27:01 <marja> lebarhon: lol 18:27:14 <marja> lebarhon: yes, a new one 18:27:20 <marja> obgr_seneca: welcome :) 18:27:27 <marja> #chair obgr_seneca 18:27:27 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: marja obgr_seneca 18:27:59 <obgr_seneca> oh, I did forget about the meeting, sorry 18:28:02 <obgr_seneca> hi there 18:28:20 <marja> obgr_seneca: np, we know you are too busy 18:28:54 <MrsBTest> morning obgr_seneca 18:28:57 <obgr_seneca> thx, I promise to be good, when hell is over 18:30:14 * marja since we don't seem to have time for real validation, and we don't know everything, shall we leave the validation to the users and wait for the bug reports 18:30:26 <marja> obgr_seneca: this is about the help texts 18:31:05 <obgr_seneca> I'd say, let's leave it for beta3 to validate... 18:31:17 <obgr_seneca> with a bit of luck we can fix most until final 18:31:36 <marja> obgr_seneca: and there'll be rc, too 18:31:47 <obgr_seneca> yep 18:32:52 <marja> #action we concentrate on finishing the texts and leave the validating for beta 3 18:33:16 <marja> obgr_seneca: what we write now won't go in beta 3 anymore, though 18:33:51 <marja> obgr_seneca: but it can be seen in network installs before rc 18:33:52 <obgr_seneca> Ask ennael, I think there has to be at least one other build of the isos, so perhaps 18:34:00 <obgr_seneca> yep 18:34:21 <marja> obgr_seneca: you mean beta 3 needs another pre-release? 18:35:30 <obgr_seneca> there's still a mighty ugly bug with ati graphics aka it won't work at all... 18:35:43 <marja> obgr_seneca: ouch 18:36:10 * marja can probably make time tomorrow to work on the help texts 18:36:30 <obgr_seneca> I will be busy testing until beta3 is released 18:36:43 <marja> obgr_seneca: fine... that is very needed 18:37:01 <obgr_seneca> yes, I'll be over in qa, ping me if you need me 18:37:22 <marja> now... or those days ? 18:37:55 * marja are there any questions about current topic? 18:38:43 <marja> #topic does anyone have another topic? 18:39:03 <marja> grenoya: maybe you? 18:40:13 <grenoya> nope /o\ 18:40:24 <marja> grenoya: np.... short meeting ;) 18:40:33 <marja> shall we close the meeting? 18:40:45 <papoteur> stop 18:40:47 <grenoya> too much work and meeting in day time jobs, no time for fos :\ 18:40:52 <papoteur> I have a question 18:40:54 <marja> grenoya: is OK 18:41:01 <marja> papoteur: tell us :) 18:41:19 <papoteur> It s for instruction during installation 18:41:25 <marja> OK 18:41:42 <papoteur> It is said that printers must be on during install 18:42:02 <papoteur> but doctor5000 says that is not good 18:42:05 <marja> I read that, but I don't know anything about it 18:42:25 <marja> papoteur: thx for telling us 18:42:26 <papoteur> https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1966&p=15914&hilit=install+printer#p15914 18:42:27 <Magbot> [ Mageia forum View topic - [SOLVED] The printer installation process is way to complex ] 18:42:54 <papoteur> topic from Mar 6th, '12, 21:59 18:43:38 <papoteur> it is the place to discuss it? 18:45:11 <marja> I found it now: 18:45:12 <marja> Are you saying that the proper procedure for installing a printer is to plug it in to an already running system? 18:45:13 <marja> if so that should be in the instructions that pop up during install 18:45:15 <marja> Yes, that has always been the case. Also, the popup does all the installing, why should there be any other instructions besides "please wait"? 18:45:19 <MrsBTest> i have to go, sorry to be distracted, see you in the morning 18:45:32 <marja> MrsBTest: thanks for ahving been here 18:45:43 <marja> MrsBTest: good night 18:46:09 <marja> papoteur: so a printer should be installed afterwards and not during install 18:46:35 <marja> s/and not during install/and not during Mageia install/ 18:47:36 <papoteur> But it is not what it is say in the install instructions 18:47:52 <marja> papoteur: so that part needs to be removed 18:48:22 <papoteur> OK 18:48:47 <marja> barjac: are you around? 18:49:22 <marja> #action remove the part about plugging in printers from installer.xml 18:49:44 <marja> is there anything else? 18:50:30 <marja> #endmeeting