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19:31:54 <ennael> #topic alpha 2 release
19:32:09 <sebsebseb> hi
19:32:30 <ennael> so Alpha 2 is planned for 6th of september
19:32:52 <ennael> and as for alpha1 we have "real" alphas this time :)
19:34:16 <ennael> GNOME all broken
19:34:27 <ennael> kernel bugs for keyboard and mouse support
19:34:34 <ennael> a nice one :)
19:35:21 <sebsebseb> GNOME a dev version though
19:36:26 <ennael> still these bugs are all fixed now thanks to coling and tmb
19:36:37 <sebsebseb> ok nice :)
19:36:39 <marja> \o/
19:37:03 <ennael> isos are in progress, live are ready for tests and classical installer one should follow tonight
19:37:47 <AL13N> ennael: was the independant desktop code committed, and is it included?
19:38:03 <ennael> what is it
19:38:18 <AL13N> instead of 3 buttons where you start you see more buttons
19:38:27 <AL13N> with checkboxes instead of radio
19:38:52 <AL13N> since you ask, i'm guessing it isn't
19:39:43 <tmb> it should be as new stage2 is released
19:39:51 <tmb> (iirc)
19:40:07 <ennael> erf that one...
19:41:22 <ennael> is Derek around ?
19:42:25 <Luigi12> nope, no djennings
19:42:29 <tmb> it is: http://gitweb.mageia.org/software/drakx/log/
19:42:30 <[mbot> [ drakx - Mageia Installer and base platform for many utilities ]
19:42:39 <ennael> ok one thing important we will mail -dev
19:42:52 <tmb> "stage2: add Feature:Independently_install_desktop_environments"
19:43:08 <ennael> it would be nice if people committing in sensitive piece could test it to check there is no regression
19:45:51 <AL13N> this feature is on my list to find out if this is really what we want (like this)
19:46:17 <AL13N> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/File:Desktop_select.png
19:46:28 <AL13N> he may have gotten carried away
19:46:29 <blino> :v gnome-shell
19:46:30 <Sophie> blino: 3.9.90-1.mga4 // core-release (Mga, cauldron, i586)
19:46:54 <ennael> oh my god...
19:47:00 <AL13N> ennael: in any case, if it's in there, i guess this is a good time to test it :-)
19:47:12 <ennael> this is not a question of test imho
19:47:20 <ennael> it looks like a christmas tree
19:47:37 <AL13N> well, it's also tagged for me to have an ART-check
19:47:49 <AL13N> anyway, the point is, i think there were less options at first
19:47:53 <ennael> much too complex screen, no sense for me
19:47:55 <AL13N> only recently has there been this many
19:47:59 <ennael> anyway
19:48:08 <ennael> anything else for alpha 2 ?
19:48:50 <AL13N> except that alot of features are not in it
19:49:02 <AL13N> which means that alpha3 and alpha4 might be REAL alpha's too
19:49:07 <napcok> this one is alredy in cauldron https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:MageiaWelcome
19:49:26 <AL13N> we can talk features in next topic i gues
19:49:33 <napcok> if it can be included in alpha2 will be nice
19:49:52 <AL13N> (that too will need an art-check)
19:50:43 <ennael> ok not that I don't want to go on that meeting but we have really too few people around...
19:50:53 <ennael> is there any sense to speak about features ?
19:51:05 <AL13N> i have prepared a list of features
19:51:19 <AL13N> and sort of how far they are along, which are lagging behind and such
19:51:33 <AL13N> and the ones that we need to have a close eye on (like the one before)
19:51:34 <ennael> you can have a nice list but if no people around it's not usable
19:51:42 <ennael> at least on irc
19:51:47 * marja how many people are here and didn't speak yet? please raise your hand
19:51:47 <AL13N> if someone listens
19:52:02 <AL13N> it's too bad malo isn't here though
19:52:04 <AL13N> but ok
19:52:12 <AL13N> i can send email too if you like
19:52:12 <ennael> AL13N: we are not talking about malo
19:52:24 <ennael> malo is not releasing the features
19:52:52 <ennael> the question is: is this meeting still meaningfull ?
19:53:00 <AL13N> coling 's features are a bit of a question mark too, and he's not here
19:53:01 <ennael> irc is intended to be interactive
19:53:16 <AL13N> myeah
19:53:24 <tmb> well, seems we dont have much people around :/
19:53:30 <ennael> yep...
19:53:33 <AL13N> i wonder if people got the time wrong
19:53:48 <AL13N> but then, it's almost 1h
19:54:04 <ennael> I will see with malo and maybe ask on -dev if we should keep these meetings as it
19:55:00 <AL13N> ennael: i think we might need a better timeschedule thing so that people can note multiple timeslots (like they are using for the newbie seminars)
19:55:11 <AL13N> anyway, i'll send an email regarding the features
19:55:36 <AL13N> other than that, i guess we should close the meeting :-(
19:56:07 <ennael> AL13N: we already asked some months ago about this
19:56:20 <AL13N> yes, i know
19:56:21 <ennael> anyway thanks for those who were around.
19:56:27 <ennael> see you in -dev then :)
19:56:29 <ennael> #endmeeting