20:03:37 <ennael> #startmeeting 20:03:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jan 26 20:03:37 2012 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:39 <erzulie> [ MeetBot - Debian Wiki ] 20:03:42 <ennael> #chair misc 20:03:42 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: ennael misc 20:04:24 <ennael> #topic FOSDEM reminder 20:04:41 <ennael> so FOSDEM is planned soon 20:04:48 <sebsebseb> yep :) 20:05:09 <ennael> as a reminder you can register here https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012 20:05:10 <erzulie> [ Fosdem 2012 - Mageia wiki ] 20:05:28 <ennael> we are still looking for help on Mageia booth 20:05:44 <ennael> for those interested in Mageia general assembly 20:05:45 <sebsebseb> yep :) and I want to help, just not sure when exactly 20:06:03 <ennael> it should happen on saturday beginning of afternoon 20:06:04 <grenoya> same as sebsebseb 20:06:26 <ennael> we will have exact time on... staurday :) 20:06:37 <ennael> information available by mail then and on booth 20:06:52 <misc> by mail, well, if we can get online :) 20:07:13 <ennael> well with some beer everything is possible 20:07:47 <ennael> anything to add on this ? 20:07:56 <AL13N> :) 20:08:07 <AL13N> ah yes, restaurant 20:08:30 <AL13N> i think everyone is there who is to be there, but still unsure if tmb is there, or perhaps tumbeliina might come too, or so i heard 20:08:43 <AL13N> so restaurant gonna be 25 - 27 people 20:08:51 <sebsebseb> yep Tumberlina might be coming as well 20:08:53 <AL13N> that's it 20:09:05 <ennael> ok 20:09:10 <ennael> anything else ? 20:09:39 <sebsebseb> the stand, can't I just turn up there at times, and say I want to help for a bit? 20:10:16 <ennael> sebsebseb: we need at least some information so that people can go both on conference and booth 20:10:50 <grenoya> for the booth : who is really bringing what ? 20:11:07 <ennael> trish will bring all goodies 20:11:18 <sebsebseb> I still haven't done it, but going to look at the FOSDEM scheduled properly, only looked at a bit so far a few times, then I'll know what kind of times I would be really willing to help at the stand :). 20:11:22 <ennael> and coincoin, me and others some tee-shirt 20:11:23 <ennael> s 20:11:28 <sebsebseb> ah yes the t shirts 20:11:34 <sebsebseb> I want a Mageia t shirt :) maybe more than one even 20:11:44 <sebsebseb> anything I should know about that? 20:11:51 <ennael> your size ? :) 20:11:58 * misc just bring his laptop to to present slides 20:12:03 <sebsebseb> I know my size, I meant when it comes to getting one. 20:12:14 <ennael> sebsebseb: from saturday morning 20:12:16 <edge226> ennael: I would like a shirt but not going to FOSDEM :/ 20:12:23 <AL13N> lol 20:12:24 <grenoya> ennael: do we need laptop for demonstrations ? 20:12:32 <ennael> grenoya: would be nice indeed 20:12:50 <sebsebseb> ennael: Can buy t shirts from Saturday morning your saying? 20:12:53 <grenoya> only mga1 or cauldron acepted ? 20:12:56 <AL13N> if there 5 black XXL tshirts, i'll take them 20:13:02 <ennael> sebsebseb: yep 20:13:09 <ennael> grenoya: both of course 20:13:13 <sebsebseb> ok so don't need to pre order them or anything? 20:13:15 <sebsebseb> ok good :) 20:13:18 <grenoya> ok, I can bring cauldron 20:13:22 <ennael> next topic ? 20:13:36 <sebsebseb> on the stand Gnome will be showen as well I assume to people not just KDE? :D 20:13:40 <misc> yep 20:13:57 <ennael> ok 20:14:06 <sebsebseb> misc: Can you tell me more about your talk, if not here, later on :) 20:14:08 <ennael> #topic isos content: define DVD iso content 20:14:57 <ennael> nice subject 20:15:19 <ennael> while lives content is quite easy as free space is just non existing 20:15:29 <ennael> we do have to fix DVD content 20:15:48 <ennael> for now let say it's just experimental, no formal rule 20:15:54 <edge226> ennael any reason why the dvd's arent possible to be live as well? 20:16:01 <ennael> except use of some tasks and rpmsrate 20:16:25 <ennael> edge226: we have lots of demands for small isos for live 20:16:39 <misc> and live cd are not suitable for everybody 20:16:59 <misc> read forums of mandriva to see the people complaining ( rightfully ) about that 20:18:19 <ennael> so 20:18:34 <misc> ennael: I guess having a sorted set of task and making sure we have 1 rpm to full fill the task ? 20:18:37 <ennael> There were some bug reports about "missing" packages in DVD 20:18:47 <ennael> yep 20:18:52 <ennael> that could be nice 20:19:01 <ennael> also a question about texlive 20:19:05 <edge226> ennael: I didnt have missing packages but ones that were attempted to install twice. 20:19:11 <ennael> as it's about 400Mo 20:19:17 <ennael> shall we keep it? 20:19:27 <mikala> ennael: well it was on mga1 iso initially 20:19:31 <ennael> edge226: fill a bug report please 20:19:36 <mikala> however it did grow from 100m 20:19:57 <mikala> (there's a mail from luc on -dev with some sizes regarding x86_64 dvd) 20:19:58 <edge226> ennael: pretty sure I took some screens at the time so I definately can do so. 20:20:06 <ennael> so 20:20:07 <mikala> dmorgan: is it possible to split it like it's done in mandriva cooker ? 20:20:19 <mikala> because i guess it's on the dvd because something requires it ? 20:20:23 <misc> mikala: split what ? 20:20:29 <mikala> misc: textlive 20:20:43 <misc> mikala: somehow, i was hoping for something else 20:20:58 <ennael> :) 20:21:07 <leuhmanu> nothing require it iirc 20:21:11 <ennael> yep 20:21:13 <mikala> than drop it 20:21:19 <mikala> if it's not required 20:21:27 <ennael> mikala: your point of view :) 20:21:34 <mikala> do we loose some functionnality 20:21:39 <ennael> I'd like to have general feedback on it 20:21:50 <ennael> as I don't know really texlive 20:22:10 <misc> I think people who use tex are also able to install from the network 20:22:56 <misc> and the ratio userbase/size is not really in favorof keeping, IMHO 20:23:20 <ennael> I don't mind really :) 20:23:29 <mikala> so let's drop it. 20:23:33 <ennael> but this is a general process to manage 20:23:34 <AL13N> drop it 20:23:40 <ennael> meaning what shall we add or drop 20:23:42 <AL13N> we'll see if someone complains 20:23:55 <ennael> AL13N: this one is tricky 20:23:57 <misc> ennael: hence my suggestion of having a list of task 20:24:07 <ennael> adding back 300 Mo is not easy 20:24:15 <AL13N> ic 20:24:15 <mikala> misc: like « must have » on dvd ? 20:24:21 <misc> mikala: yes 20:24:28 <AL13N> a wiki page, and have people say WANT on it 20:24:29 <ennael> task = package or functionnality ? 20:24:30 <mikala> so we should start by this point 20:24:39 <misc> for example, I think we may need more to have a internet browser than a nntp client 20:24:41 <mikala> instead of checking individual package 20:24:51 <misc> ennael: task in the ergonomics meaning 20:24:55 <ennael> ok 20:25:32 <edge226> is there any plan on modifying the installer to be more informative I found a <must have> flag on lots of packages there that were not really "needed" in my system but were rather you might need this. for instance mail clients and such are useless to me. 20:26:17 <mikala> misc: so providing only 1 browser for example by default (firefox) & after considering de's alternative (epiphany,rekonq) before alternatives browser (chromium-browser, opera) ? 20:26:56 <misc> mikala: well, the idea is first to have the list of task, then select for each iso what software, and then, we will see what to do with free space 20:27:13 <misc> but as long as we have functionnality, the rest is just nitpicking and should not cause trouble 20:28:35 <mikala> ok. 20:28:46 <misc> edge226: there is no plan, and frankly, I think people would not read carefully every description 20:29:12 <mikala> so we should define a list of task for next meeting in order to have something in time for next iso . 20:29:25 <ennael> yes please 20:29:38 <ennael> as then it needs time to work on iso 20:30:02 <edge226> misc: Honestly thats the one of the things I loved about slackware, being able to choose all my packages and what I need. I personally would rather take time at install and have my system how I want it on first boot than deal with a package manager and try to find the stuff I dont want later. 20:30:52 <ennael> edge226: you can do it in advanced install 20:31:05 <ennael> who will start wiki page? 20:31:08 <ennael> volunteer ? 20:31:15 <edge226> ennael: no you really cant, not with only <must have> flags as information :P 20:31:17 <misc> mikala: if you want to start just after the meeting, I can help, just run a pad, and we will find the task 20:32:14 <edge226> ennael: you need at least basic information on what a package does in order to properly decide. 20:32:17 <mikala> misc: yep i can try 20:32:23 <mikala> (& i'll get an action here :/ ) 20:32:40 <misc> #action misc & mikalaflesh a list of task 20:32:57 <ennael> also it would be nice to have a look on rpmsrate 20:33:03 <mikala> oh nice i'm not in action 20:33:07 <ennael> it may need to be cleant 20:33:14 <ennael> #undo 20:33:14 <Inigo_Montoya> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x86192ac> 20:33:18 <AL13N> lol 20:33:21 <ennael> #action misc & mikala flesh a list of task 20:34:36 <dmorgan> mikala: texlive ? 20:34:36 <ennael> so about rpmsrate we need DE guys to have a look 20:34:40 <dmorgan> mikala: out of question 20:34:48 <misc> ennael: take a look, ie ? 20:34:58 <ennael> to check packages included in install 20:35:04 <ennael> some may be deprecated 20:35:57 <misc> indeed 20:36:26 <ennael> #action review by DE packagers of rpmsrate for updates if needed 20:39:09 <AL13N> dmorgan: is texlive required for something? 20:40:08 <dmorgan> AL13N: i don't remember, iirc after installing an iso i think it can be removed directly 20:40:11 <dmorgan> someone can test ? 20:41:09 <AL13N> dmorgan: ah, i thought you said "(21:34:40) dmorgan: mikala: out of question" wrt to texlive 20:41:21 <dmorgan> AL13N: to split it more 20:41:27 <AL13N> oh 20:41:30 <AL13N> ok 20:41:33 <AL13N> sorry 20:41:37 <AL13N> continue meeting plz 20:41:37 <dmorgan> AL13N: no pb :) 20:42:42 <ennael> ok anything else to add ? suggestion ? 20:43:29 <misc> nope 20:43:42 <ennael> they are all dead or sleeping 20:43:45 <ennael> ok next topic 20:44:02 <ennael> #topic Define focus until end of Mageia 2 development cycle 20:44:22 <edge226> I could potentially add a lot. 20:44:34 <edge226> idea wise anyways. 20:44:42 <ennael> we are now entering beta stage for Mageia 2 20:45:13 <ennael> it means more focus on fixing Mageia general state 20:45:28 <misc> well, I would focus on quality and bugfix 20:45:28 <AL13N> you mean like bugs and missing dependencies? 20:45:56 <ennael> we have several burning subjects that need all our attention 20:46:11 <misc> systemd, others ? 20:46:16 <ennael> it was listed during a council meeting 20:46:19 <AL13N> yes, systemd stable would be nice 20:46:24 <ennael> so 20:46:30 <ennael> here is the list 20:46:32 <ennael> systemd 20:46:34 <ennael> dracut 20:46:37 <coincoin> gnome3 20:46:42 <ennael> syslinux/gfxboot 20:46:49 <ennael> oxygen integration 20:46:59 <ennael> module-init-tools -> kmod lib migration 20:47:19 <AL13N> no grub2? 20:47:39 <leuhmanu> there was nothing done on drakxtools, so no 20:47:41 <misc> AL13N: no one did the work it seems 20:47:45 <AL13N> k 20:47:56 <ennael> this list is about started jobs 20:47:57 <AL13N> what about ssd and 1k sector size? 20:48:05 <misc> ( I think to have clearly said that if no one work on something, it doesn't happen ) 20:48:05 <AL13N> ie: fdisk vs gdisk 20:48:16 <AL13N> misc: i have no trouble with that 20:48:37 <ennael> for now I would say above list is quite a big one 20:48:57 <ennael> and we have plenty of work with opened bugs 20:49:00 <AL13N> yes 20:49:02 <grenoya> ennael: maybe out o topic but : what about the installer with help buttons for the doc-team ? 20:49:04 <misc> well, do we have a backup plan ( like reverting any changes ) 20:49:12 <ennael> grenoya: doc team is on it 20:49:23 <AL13N> misc: yes, what if systemd doesn't get good? 20:50:15 <edge226> you know what I think we really need is some sort of brain storming thing on the site. Where you can place your idea's for future releases. 20:50:22 <AL13N> also the X on tty1 issue? 20:50:28 <misc> edge226: we did that already 20:50:28 <leuhmanu> edge226: go to the wiki 20:50:36 <misc> edge226: and we do not need ideas, we need people to work 20:50:57 <misc> it is quite easy to have list of thing to do, it is much harder to do them 20:51:19 <AL13N> so, is it possible to revert if it's not good enough? 20:51:20 <dmorgan> AL13N: systemd is good already but you can help you know ? 20:51:29 <AL13N> who decides something like that? 20:51:35 <dmorgan> AL13N: this will be good 20:51:43 <AL13N> dmorgan: ok, it's fine 20:51:47 <misc> AL13N: systemd, yes, we said that we plan to support initscript and systemd, so we can just use initscript by default 20:51:53 <AL13N> dmorgan: just, there is bugs on it open 20:52:05 <dmorgan> AL13N: yes we close them 20:52:16 <AL13N> dmorgan: but yeah, i meant nothing bad or personal by it 20:52:21 <coincoin> AL13N: bugs on gcalctool and we won't remove gcalctool :� 20:52:23 <dmorgan> AL13N: there is bug on mdv on initscript i think so nothing is perfect :) 20:52:23 <edge226> misc having idea's put in place for new users to see what is on the horizon is something that will aid in attracting people. Hense why I say we should have it. 20:52:42 <AL13N> dmorgan: that is true 20:52:49 <leuhmanu> ( https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_Ideas_Page ) 20:53:02 <misc> edge226: if no one work on it, that would just be ying, and that's not something we should do 20:53:06 <erzulie> [ Mageia Ideas Page - Mageia wiki ] 20:53:14 <misc> and we have release note to explain what is new for mageia 2 20:53:15 <edge226> misc: true. 20:53:29 <AL13N> edge226: np, it's just we agreed on the ideas after release of mga1, not those need to be completed 20:53:31 <dmorgan> AL13N: after on the systemd tracker there is bugreport not only related to systemd 20:53:36 <dmorgan> AL13N: like the openldap one 20:53:52 <dmorgan> which can't be a systemd bug as it doesn't have systemd support enable yet 20:54:18 <AL13N> dmorgan: is there some kind of page we can see minimally how systemd works and how we should modify our packages if they have deamons? like mariadb? 20:55:12 <edge226> AL13N: never said anything super complicated, just so someone knows what we think should be added next and what needs to be worked on next. I just joined recently but other than the IRC chat support I usually do with other distributions I am finding myself and hearing that it can be difficult to actually hit the next stage. 20:55:54 <AL13N> edge226: well imho we are a bit short on people, so we prefer to have all people fixing bugs rather than generating new ideas, but i see your point 20:56:13 <dmorgan> AL13N: not yet but i will write a page on this 20:56:19 <AL13N> dmorgan: thanks 20:56:28 <edge226> AL13N: honestly I think the wiki needs to be changed to two sections in terms of packaging. 20:56:41 <AL13N> dmorgan: cause since it's gonna happen, i think there is alot of people (eg: me) who don't know how it works 20:56:46 <misc> can we keep the discussion on the current topic ? 20:56:54 <AL13N> ok sorry 20:57:01 <AL13N> i'll shut up now 20:57:12 <edge226> AL13N: newbie packaging section that explains a lot of the background and a more expert package section that talks more of what you need to do and less symantics. Sorry if thats off topic. 20:57:31 <misc> so, for the focus , any volunteer ? 20:57:44 <misc> or anything that people want to do, or where they want to do and need help ? 20:58:48 <misc> AL13N: you spoke of systemd and bugs 20:58:56 <misc> AL13N: so you are looking at this ? 20:59:04 <AL13N> err, no, not really 20:59:09 <AL13N> i donno much about it 20:59:14 <AL13N> but if dmorgan can make such a wiki page 20:59:18 <AL13N> i can at least check mariadb 20:59:45 <misc> there is the fedora page about systemd, with lots of info 21:00:18 <AL13N> oh really? are they the upstream then? 21:00:37 <misc> well, they have information to convert thei rpackage to systemd format 21:00:46 <dmorgan> AL13N: fedora has always been upstream for systemd 21:00:47 <misc> which is the same format as every distribution use for systemd 21:00:51 <dmorgan> AL13N: lennart is a fedora guy 21:01:04 <misc> systemd is free desktop, not fedora 21:01:08 <AL13N> misc: dmorgan: yeah, i guess i know nothing about it 21:01:21 <misc> AL13N: great, so that's a occasion to learn 21:01:28 <dmorgan> AL13N: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd 21:01:29 <erzulie> [ Systemd - FedoraProject ] 21:01:45 <AL13N> someone do #url ? 21:01:48 <AL13N> or not needed? 21:02:02 <misc> not needed 21:02:05 <AL13N> k 21:02:11 <ennael> do we have meta bug for each of these topics ? 21:02:18 <ennael> at least we have it for systemd 21:02:22 <misc> leuhmanu: ? 21:02:33 <leuhmanu> what are the others one ? 21:02:35 <dmorgan> ennael: yes let me find it 21:02:43 <ennael> leuhmanu: see above 21:02:44 <dmorgan> ennael: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120 21:02:46 <erzulie> [ Bug 2120 - Implement systemd in Mageia 2 - specifications ] 21:03:03 <leuhmanu> 21:46 < ennael> here is the list 21:03:04 <leuhmanu> ... 21:03:07 <leuhmanu> ? 21:03:10 <ennael> 21:46 < ennael> systemd 21:03:10 <ennael> 21:46 < ennael> dracut 21:03:10 <ennael> 21:46 < coincoin> gnome3 21:03:10 <ennael> 21:46 < ennael> syslinux/gfxboot 21:03:10 <ennael> 21:46 < ennael> oxygen integration 21:03:12 <ennael> 21:46 < ennael> module-init-tools -> kmod lib migration 21:03:14 <leuhmanu> ok :) 21:03:21 <leuhmanu> not for all iirc :) 21:03:29 <leuhmanu> I can check that after 21:03:35 <ennael> would be nice to have one yes 21:03:50 <ennael> dmorgan: can you remind us wiki page about systemd? 21:04:19 <dmorgan> ennael: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features/Systemd 21:04:20 <erzulie> [ Features/Systemd - Mageia wiki ] 21:04:24 <ennael> thanks 21:04:26 <dmorgan> still a draft /!\ 21:05:18 <ennael> ok maybe we can work on a wiki page / topic 21:05:27 <ennael> to organize work until final release 21:05:56 <ennael> have a look here 21:05:56 <ennael> http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-01-16-20.07.html 21:05:57 <erzulie> [ #mageia-meeting Meeting ] 21:06:06 <ennael> "Start of beta releases: how can we organize work?" 21:07:31 <ennael> so basically we have 1 or 2 guys for these topics 21:07:54 <ennael> this will be important that packagers and triage team can have a focus on it when needed 21:11:12 <misc> so we can start by people working on feature ? 21:11:24 <misc> like titi for kmod, etc 21:12:04 <ennael> yep but it will need help from all for tests, fixes, tests, tests 21:12:52 <misc> and tests :) 21:14:01 * leuhmanu need to check what is kmod 21:14:13 <ennael> this is for sure not as sexy as upgrading to new versions or importing new packages 21:14:23 <ennael> but this is just essential for coming release 21:14:28 <AL13N> leuhmanu: replacement for module-init-tools (modprobe and stuff) 21:14:50 <leuhmanu> modprobe ok, 21:16:08 <grenoya> ennael: could you help us remember when are version and release freezes please /o\ 21:16:20 <leuhmanu> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development 21:16:21 <erzulie> [ Mageia 2 development - Mageia wiki ] 21:16:26 <ennael> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development#Development_Planning 21:16:27 <erzulie> [ Mageia 2 development - Mageia wiki ] 21:16:28 <ennael> arf 21:17:12 <grenoya> leuhmanu: ennael: thanks 21:17:39 <AL13N> dmorgan: can service start foo and /etc/init.d/foo and chkconfig still work and refer to systemd when used? or is that too hard? 21:17:55 <grenoya> so yes, we have time to test and fix bugs Before upgrading and importing other packages :) 21:18:04 <ennael> great :) 21:18:20 <ennael> and do not forget http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt 21:18:45 <dmorgan> AL13N: chkconfig doesn't work with systemd 21:19:17 <dmorgan> AL13N: why btw ? migrate to systemd commands 21:19:39 <ennael> anything else to add? 21:19:48 <AL13N> dmorgan: for scripts? 21:19:53 <ennael> (we will review all this list at each meeting btw) 21:20:28 <AL13N> and http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt :) 21:22:31 <ennael> anything else ? 21:23:13 <leuhmanu> not on this topic 21:23:34 <ennael> ok 21:23:44 <ennael> that's all for my topics list 21:23:49 <ennael> any other topic ? 21:24:00 <dlucio> bonsoir! 21:24:10 <leuhmanu> I have a little question about privacy 21:24:13 <ennael> dlucio: meeting in progress 21:24:18 <dlucio> ok, 21:24:19 <ennael> leuhmanu: sure 21:24:54 <leuhmanu> I made a script to simplify the getting of the maintainer / committer for packages on the bugzilla. I also have make my on script like http://freeshell.de/~manu67/mageia/commits.cgi?pkg=java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.1-2.0.4.mga2.x86_64.rpm 21:25:29 <pterjan> not nice 21:25:39 <leuhmanu> So, I have the law to show an email for a mageia ID ? 21:25:55 <sander85> mikala: is kde now pushed? 21:26:08 <AL13N> leuhmanu: you mean like alien -> alien@mageia.org ? 21:26:16 <ennael> sander85: meeting in progress 21:26:34 <leuhmanu> not like alien > alien.ru or something like the bugzilla know ;) 21:26:41 <pterjan> leuhmanu: we don't display the email anywhere as far as I know, by choice, except on bugzilla for authenticated users 21:27:16 <leuhmanu> and if I use the part before the @xxx.ttl ? 21:27:31 <pterjan> leuhmanu: what is the goal ? 21:28:03 <leuhmanu> to not have to type the maintainer 21:28:03 <pterjan> in packages we use just the login 21:28:35 <sander85> could we maybe have some authenticated database where we could ask for either email or username.. some database that would connect those two 21:28:36 <pterjan> the best would be to have bugzilla accept login :) 21:28:40 <leuhmanu> the mail is only send if the bugzapper click on a button 21:28:46 <sander85> not public but at least something 21:29:06 <leuhmanu> so for the part before the @ ? 21:29:08 <leuhmanu> ok ? 21:29:25 <misc> sander85: well, as I said, we need to change privacy policy first 21:29:28 <pterjan> leuhmanu: I don't understand the point 21:29:40 <pterjan> leuhmanu: why not use the login then ? 21:29:48 <misc> why do no one even try to propose and discuss the change ? 21:30:02 <misc> we cannot display on the website "we do not disclose email" and yet do it :/ 21:30:03 <leuhmanu> pterjan: because it doen't work 21:30:10 <marja> bugzilla doesn't understand "wally", but "jani" works 21:30:14 <pterjan> ah I see 21:30:22 <leuhmanu> or tv > thierry.vignaud 21:30:25 <misc> ( heck, we can even directly steal the one of other distribution ) 21:30:29 <pterjan> it would be better to add the support in bugzilla 21:30:43 <sander85> indeed 21:30:50 <pterjan> and not require reporter to know the wmail 21:30:52 <pterjan> email 21:30:58 <misc> ( see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:PrivacyPolicy ) 21:30:59 <erzulie> [ Legal:PrivacyPolicy - FedoraProject ] 21:31:07 <sander85> i'm ok with that 21:31:21 <sander85> there should be some option to assign bug by submitter 21:31:25 <leuhmanu> me too but wel... (for the login) 21:31:39 <sander85> well, submitter/maintainer 21:31:56 <leuhmanu> (my script get also the maitainer, but only the id) 21:32:05 <leuhmanu> s/maintainer/commiters 21:32:22 * pterjan thinks maintainer should be assigned the bug by default 21:32:50 <leuhmanu> yes but will that work ? :) 21:32:55 <leuhmanu> when+ 21:33:21 <pterjan> well better coding that than something else to workaround it :) 21:33:23 <leuhmanu> (only one or two people use the script) 21:33:38 <pterjan> that would also help anyone reporting bugs 21:33:58 <AL13N> is there a bug report on this? 21:34:11 * leuhmanu know nothing about xmlrpc or something like that 21:34:38 <pterjan> leuhmanu: I wouldn't expect it to be related :) 21:35:13 <pterjan> I guess bugzilla can get a plugin to look into maintdb for default assignee 21:35:33 <pterjan> or we can update the bugzilla config from maintdb 21:35:59 <AL13N> ok, so anything else for meeting? 21:36:10 <leuhmanu> (so it's a no ok) 21:36:18 <leuhmanu> (no for nothing) 21:36:37 * pterjan really think it would be easy to add this to bugzilla 21:36:50 <misc> it is easier with bugzilla 4 21:37:06 <misc> before, there is not enough abstraction , as discussed with bugzilla coders 21:37:07 <dlucio> i have a question, maybe offtopic 21:37:36 <pterjan> misc: I mean, setting default assignee, I think it is already possible in the config 21:37:52 <leuhmanu> (in fact I use maintdb.mageia.org since some months, but it's completly helpfull) 21:38:00 <leuhmanu> (not) 21:38:45 <dlucio> is it a way to know if a package is already pakcaged. I mean, 1 package may be called with different names and be redundant 21:39:43 <misc> dlucio: you can use distromatch, or search on sophie using the url 21:39:59 <pterjan> dlucio: urpmf on a filename ? 21:40:20 * pterjan reads http://code.google.com/p/bugzilla-assignee-list/ code 21:40:24 <ennael> is that all for meeting ? 21:40:28 <dlucio> pterjan: for example, i don tknow if i shall import js pacakged from mandriva, itis a javascript engine. 21:41:15 <leuhmanu> ok for me 21:41:29 <misc> ennael: yes for me 21:41:39 <sebsebseb> yep I guess so 21:41:54 <ennael> ok let end it then 21:42:00 <ennael> #endmeeting