18:32:06 <rda> #startmeeting 18:32:06 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Wed Mar 2 18:32:06 2011 UTC. The chair is rda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:32:06 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:32:12 <rda> #chair alexn83 tumbeliina 18:32:12 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: alexn83 rda tumbeliina 18:32:37 <rda> #topic logo 18:32:47 <rda> #undo 18:32:47 <Inigo_Montoya> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x82cb74c> 18:32:53 <rda> #topic logo, favicon, colours 18:33:31 <rda> alexn83: so ? :) 18:34:34 <alexn83> I've been experimenting with this: 18:34:34 <alexn83> http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0 18:34:34 <alexn83> But nothing good I could not get: 18:34:34 <alexn83> http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5491867127/ 18:34:34 <alexn83> :) 18:35:35 <rda> wow :) 18:35:40 <alexn83> favicon - without change 18:35:45 <rda> 7 looks like some marmelade 18:36:11 <rda> ok, 1 looks better. or 1 with green bubbles of 5 ? 18:36:22 <rda> alexn83: could you send the favicon files? 18:36:29 <tumbeliina> i like 2 18:36:50 <rda> 2 is too heavy a mix of colours, no? 18:37:33 <alexn83> in what format? SVG? 18:37:41 <rda> alexn83: actually, http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5471263695/in/photostream/ is not the same as the one you sent on the list 18:38:08 <rda> alexn83: I can try to get something out of the SVG yes. final formats will be .ico and .png 16x and 32x 18:38:25 <rda> alexn83: svg will do 18:39:49 <alexn83> in the mailing list - revised 18:40:30 <rda> alexn83: thx, checking 18:41:10 <alexn83> what? 18:41:34 <rda> ah, sorry, I thought you just sent a fresh revision on the list again :) 18:42:23 <rda> it's a png you sent, right? 18:42:34 <alexn83> yes 18:44:59 <tumbeliina> if needed, i can help convert icons to right sizes 18:45:53 <alexn83> I think we can use a color scheme of favicons 18:49:42 <alexn83> SVG in mailing list 18:50:19 <rda> ok, I whitelist your message, 2sec 18:51:10 <rda> ha, cause the size of the attachment... 18:51:11 <rda> well.. 18:51:15 <rda> done 18:51:21 <rda> ha, no. bug. 18:51:32 <rda> alexn83: sorry :-p could you make it available somewhere? 18:53:15 <rda> ok, it finally made it through 18:54:17 <tumbeliina> i manage open it :) 18:54:47 <ahmad78> (really nice artwork!) 18:55:31 <rda> alexn83: cool, thanks. 18:55:46 <rda> alexn83: we would need at least the 16x16 png icons. 18:56:33 <rda> alexn83: could you make these? (I would try only two of the ones you did, see my mail, but you may want to try all of these) 18:57:17 <alexn83> is not a problem 18:59:02 <alexn83> I will make later 19:00:00 <alexn83> I like this color scheme (collors of all favicons) 19:01:22 <rda> nice. but we ought to contrast it with some other colours maybe? I would go for the first column 19:01:48 <rda> second line (or maybe first) 19:02:11 <rda> alexn83: can we try this for the favicon and the same colour scheme for the full logo? 19:02:30 <rda> hmmm, no, on white bg, will have to use a different color 19:03:47 <alexn83> These colors can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5424891049/ 19:04:33 <rda> ah yes. minus the border on bubbles would be excellent. 19:04:55 <alexn83> or here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5425490964/ 19:05:29 <rda> ok, let's do it this way then. 19:05:35 <rda> for mageia 1 19:06:03 <ofaurax_> hi 19:06:17 <alexn83> Hi! 19:06:30 <alexn83> rda: ok 19:06:59 <rda> alexn83: could you provide favicons and logo on white and colour bg this week? 19:07:45 <alexn83> favicons? 19:08:20 <alexn83> yes 19:08:37 <alexn83> logo in SVG? 19:08:48 <rda> yes, too 19:09:02 <alexn83> ok 19:09:13 <rda> so we can provide it in this form, but we'll make export in PNG (you may want to do them as well?) 19:09:27 <rda> cool. we're moving forward. 19:11:40 <rda> ok, nexst topic? 19:11:54 <alexn83> on the geometry of the logo: 19:11:55 <alexn83> 2 questions: 19:11:55 <alexn83> the distance between the logo and text 19:11:55 <alexn83> height of letters 19:13:07 <rda> yep, checking 19:13:22 <rda> in http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5390282345/ => 4 19:13:58 <rda> or 3. your call. :) 19:14:09 <rda> but 3 or 4 for the height of letters 19:15:31 <alexn83> я предлогаю использовать расстояние м/2 (3), так-как это одна вещь, а не две 19:15:45 <rda> hmm? 19:15:47 <alexn83> I suggest to use a distance m / 2 (3), so it is one thing, not two 19:15:59 <rda> ok, let's do that. 19:16:11 <alexn83> Sorry :-) 19:16:18 <rda> no prob :) 19:17:35 <rda> alexn83: btw, for later (guidelines) do you think you could provide a metered construction of the logo? (like http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/press/media/logos/#mozilla-additional-guidelines or http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/identity-guidelines/powered-by.html ?) 19:17:47 <rda> for both cauldron+text and cauldron alone 19:20:21 <alexn83> I think it is necessary 19:20:21 <alexn83> and the distance between the logo and text that will not interfere 19:21:03 <rda> exactly, yes 19:21:17 <rda> that will help a lot making the guidelines crystal clear 19:21:28 <rda> cool. 19:21:42 <rda> #topic guidelines 19:22:04 <rda> about the guidelines specifically, no progress yet, but I'm gathering it. 19:22:26 <rda> if anyone has still notes to add to the page http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines feel free 19:22:36 <rda> as soon as we have something square, we will port it out of the wiki 19:23:08 <rda> any question here? (next topic about the alpha2) 19:23:43 <alexn83> ok 19:24:12 <rda> #topic alpha 2, bootstrap & install 19:24:27 <alexn83> Some wallpapers for alpha-2 (2048x1168): 19:24:27 <alexn83> http://ubuntuone.com/p/fn9/ 19:24:28 <alexn83> http://ubuntuone.com/p/fnA/ 19:24:28 <alexn83> http://ubuntuone.com/p/eyr/ 19:24:28 <alexn83> http://ubuntuone.com/p/fnD/ 19:24:41 <rda> we will focus on these two mostly for alpha2. splashscreen and other distribution artwork, if available, are welcome too, but less urgent. 19:24:43 <rda> ho 19:25:49 <rda> cool. 19:26:05 <rda> I don't have the set of resolutions we need at hand but we can add these already. 19:27:32 <rda> about the bootstrap, I'll post something tomorrow, there are a few little things to tweak (background image, a little animation code and colours codes for the grub boot menu) 19:28:08 <rda> about the installer, it would be cool to match your mockup exactly, not sure yet how to do that, but we can still improve on graphics decoration. 19:28:19 <rda> again, here, I'll post it tomorrow. 19:28:28 <rda> any question about this still? 19:29:57 <alexn83> If I know which files need to be replaced, I'll draw them 19:30:23 <rda> ok. I will update that as well then 19:30:37 <rda> #info wallpapers 19:30:43 <rda> #link http://ubuntuone.com/p/fn9/ 19:30:48 <rda> #link http://ubuntuone.com/p/fnA/ 19:30:54 <rda> #link http://ubuntuone.com/p/eyr/ 19:30:59 <rda> #link http://ubuntuone.com/p/fnD/ 19:31:12 <rda> #action rda to provide list of resolutions to have 19:31:18 <rda> #action rda to integrate those already ready 19:31:32 <rda> #action rda to provide a list of feedback for installer/bootstrap processes 19:31:42 <rda> k, next? 19:31:54 <tumbeliina> http://www.sanasokea.net/lumi/ here is photos for screensavers 19:31:56 <rda> #action alexn83 will draw the backgrounds 19:32:23 <rda> #link http://www.sanasokea.net/lumi/ screensavers shots 19:32:41 <rda> #topic team org 19:32:58 <rda> now... how do you think we can organize/grow the team? 19:33:03 <tumbeliina> http://www.sanasokea.net/kukka/ more 19:34:12 <alexn83> tumbeliina: nice! 19:34:28 <tumbeliina> thanks :) 19:34:36 <rda> #link http://www.sanasokea.net/kukka/ 19:35:21 <alexn83> rda: I do not quite understand how we can do it 19:37:05 <rda> well, maybe we need to put the basis and work plan first and have more people participate later. 19:37:20 <rda> but it will need some people to stand out in the team to take the lead 19:37:30 <rda> that's just something to think about in the coming months 19:37:56 <rda> because I'd like the team to run on its own (that is, with a distinct leader than me) after final Mageia 1 :) 19:39:46 <alexn83> By the way, I plan to make banners for the installer in this style: 19:39:46 <alexn83> what do you think? 19:39:56 <alexn83> http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5492025897/ 19:40:31 <rda> alexn83: excellent idea, yes. 19:40:58 <rda> however, URLs, not being actionable during install, I'm not sure if it is useful to have them there (we can make these available from the start page, later, then. 19:42:02 <rda> but cool, yes, definitely. bringing more to people the message that they can be in charge in the project and are welcome to participate is a must. 19:42:17 <alexn83> Yes, you can simply specify the ways 19:42:42 <tumbeliina> or maybe when first time boot browser there is links to wiki? 19:44:38 <rda> tumbeliina: that's what I meant by the start page. 19:44:47 <tumbeliina> ok :) 19:45:01 <rda> #info installer screens may promote Mageia community and participation 19:45:14 <rda> #info start page would provide links/resources for that, after the install 19:45:17 <rda> ok, cool. 19:45:19 <rda> anything else? 19:47:14 <alexn83> how else can we attract people to the team? 19:47:14 <alexn83> We need more people 19:48:50 <rda> we need more, but coordinated too. 19:49:14 <rda> I guess we ought to have a better looking interface first (website), maybe put a more human face (real photos/pictures) 19:49:31 <rda> and promote around us to people gthat might be interested and competent to help in their field 19:49:36 <rda> but I'm not sure how, yet. 19:49:55 <rda> because that takes a lot of time, and best is to find how to articulate paid-for work, and community work 19:49:59 <rda> but it's not obvious 19:53:13 <rda> we'll find out! :) 19:53:43 <rda> have to go. thanks a lot to both of you for coming and for your work! 19:53:44 <tumbeliina> and i go to work now 19:54:06 <rda> I'll post my updates to the list tomorrow, and let's try to close the logo/favicon round this week 19:54:11 <rda> have a nice evening! 19:54:14 <rda> #endmeeting